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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Onhell, Sep 1, 2004.

  1. Maturin

    Maturin Sköldpadda

    Reviews for The Dark Tower are coming in, and they are all negative. Currently 33 at Metacritic. Was hoping for a hit, but I guess not. Will be seeing it in theaters when it premiers here mid August though. Been waiting for too long not to.

    Currently watching Zoolander 2. Terrible film, but sometimes entertaining.
  2. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    That is a bummer. Should've been a Netflix series.
  3. Poto

    Poto Educated Fool

    Without the non-linear structure it wouldn't have worked as well as it did.

    - The air sequences would have been all at the end of the movie instead of throughout the film.
    - We get to see things from several perspectives. Cillian Murphys arc was really powerful. And you have the bit where the guy lands his plane in the ocean, and waves. But later you see he actually tries to escape.
  4. JudasMyGuide

    JudasMyGuide Domini canis


    This one really deserves to be a classic. It's not a typical horror, per se, but it still gave me a chill, because the (admittedly simplistic) story was well told and Burton was appropriately demonic. Lino Ventura as the investigator was quite charismatic and the whole movie manages to subtly unnerve you in a rather unique way. The airplane scene was very uncomfortable to watch. I think I'm going to remember this one for quite some time. Also, we picked it up randomly, not really knowing what it's supposed to be about - so now when we read Carrie and saw three movie adaptations already, we just had to come across another suspense movie with telekinesis as its main theme. :D But this one is certainly better. I'd recommend it to anyone who'd like some of that old school terror. Creepier than Omen, but less so than Rosemary's Baby or The Innocents. Also, the amount of moral repugnancy made me think of There Will Be Blood from time to time, but that's probably just me.
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  5. terrell39

    terrell39 Ancient Mariner

    My son and I saw The Dark Tower last weekend. I have read the seven books (haven't read Wind Through the Keyhole yet) and I knew there was no way to adapt all the books in one film so I went in expecting liberties to be taken. I knew ahead of time that most of the Ka-tet would not be there. This film is just the basic concept of the books (Roland tracking the MIB who wants to bring down the Tower). Too basic for Dark Tower purists for certain.

    From that point of view, we enjoyed it. So what if Roland is not black in the books; Idris is a great actor and I enjoy his every role. Matthew I also have been a fan of and this is a rare chance to see him as the antagonist. Pure evil, no empathy; only desires pain and death. Probably the best cast role was Jake; the one who was closest to the books. Yes, this would have been better as a mini-series adapting all the books, but not meant to be. Sounds like the TV series that is being planned will concentrate on the flashbacks in the books (if it is actually produced).
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  6. Maturin

    Maturin Sköldpadda

    I'm going to see it when it premieres in Sweden next week. Glad to hear you enjoyed it, I was never expecting anything else than this kind of adaptation, really. Going to be interesting, some describe it as "a complete disaster" and others seem to find it okay. I'm perfectly happy with just okay.
  7. terrell39

    terrell39 Ancient Mariner

  8. Maturin

    Maturin Sköldpadda

    Just came back from The Dark Tower.

    A well made film which is a very loose adaptation of Stephen King's 7-book series. I wasn't sure what to expect when the reviews were mostly negative, but I'm very pleased with this adaptation in the end. I think they have done an interesting take on the material, and done it well - it feels respectful, no matter what someone might say about the casting of Elba. It was never going to be The Lord of the Rings, and the critics who expect such epic storytelling aren't really familiar with the material. The Dark Tower is a very different animal. Overall, I think the choices made here have been mostly wise. It's been criticized for its undefined central conflict. I ask myself why? We've got a lead who's trying to convince his surroundings that he's not going insane, and that the end of the world is coming. We've got a hero who does not care about the end of the world, only about revenge against the villain. Easy. Couldn't be clearer. Saving the world is secondary, what's the problem?

    Idris Elba (for all the talk of the wrongness of having the white Clint Eastwood-esque Roland Deschain being played by a black actor) is fantastic. Matthew McConaughey is the most camp he's ever been, but I think it works most of the time (if not, it's Razzie time). However, no one but Tom Taylor is really facing much of a challenge here, but he is up for every bit of it - Jake Chambers is really the lead here, and it works well. A more traditional take than King's way of starting with the unfamiliar (sort of reversing the trope, only to back down and do it straight in the second book). Film does the setup really well, and the worldbuilding manages to fit a surprising lot of stuff into this rather short film. The only thing that saddens me a bit is that it boils down to action by the numbers in the final act, but considering the amount of films falling in that trap these days it's more a sign of the times we're living in than a fault with this film in particular.

    Perhaps it's Elba being so bloody good as Roland which makes me blind to other faults, but I thouroughly enjoyed this and would see it again. 8/10.
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  9. Diesel 11

    Diesel 11 Come to the Sabbath

    Just realized this thread existed so...

    Night before last I sat down and watched The Wicker Man (the original one). It was a very good film. Well-executed suspense-wise, that final scene is everything it's cracked up to be. Words really can't do it justice (and neither can the Maiden song), it's gotta be seen to be believed. 9.5/10. Very good film.
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  10. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    Watched a few films & stuff...

    Watched A Cure for Wellness (Wiki) yesterday. An interesting horror film which I enjoyed a lot; the plot it's actually quite Lovecraftian. The lead roles were unobtrusive (i.e. not annoyingly well-known) & there was literally nothing in this that was poorly executed. Pacing was nice, good mood & feel about it, and just decently directed without any of the usual horror directing horseshit. Cool 1920/30's setting to the institute (filmed in Germany); had a real Bioshock snappy-snaps feel to it. All in, one of the best horror films I've seen in a long time. Probably not odd/weird enough for me (in terms of acting & directing) to be truly great, but pretty damn good.

    Watched The Levelling (Wiki) a few days ago. Low budget British film; slow, dreamy (swimming imagery of a hare), bordering on enigmatic at times. Just the type of film I have time for. Involves a family on a rural farm & the suicide of their son. Nothing much happens but I quite liked it.

    Watched 2014 film Pompeii (Wiki) too. Never going to get that time back. Total shite.

    Watched indy film A Dark Song (Wiki) yesterday too. The plot, if I'd read it beforehand, would probably turn me away from this type of film; sounds like horror film stock occult bullshit. The exact opposite though. Very slow & moody; nothing flashy. Heavy in occult references without the film really being about that; in fact the acting & directing sort of downplays this aspect of it. Just two actors dominate most of the screen time. Ending a bit disappointing in terms of how the plot had played out (special effects a bit amateurish, as might be expected for production); but the god figure was quite bizarre. Decent effort & worth watching.

    Saw Spider-Man: Homecoming (Wiki) the other week in the cinema. First of all I enjoyed it. I agree with what Mosh said a few pages back; the young cast playing Parker's school friends were genuinely funny; endearingly so. Aside from this it was, as has been commented on (& is part of the plot), less epic in scope & more "super hero in your neighbourhood"; the action takes place (in the main) in the mundane setting of Parker's immediate geographical life. Probably more refreshing because of that; maybe. I didn't find any of the plot (not particularly strong) or story (Spider-Man generally) even faintly interesting; all this stuff is now tedious as fuck. Bad guy (Keaton) was just okay; no idea why people think he was so good or the character is interesting. The humour was really the only thing holding this together for me; not laugh out loud but I couldn't help having a smirk on my face for quite a lot of this. The Captain America stuff was pretty funny. All in decent, but my expectations were unbelievably low for this one before stepping into the cinema.

    Watched Outlander (Wiki) series one & two back to back. Hadn't read anything much about this prior to watching & was pleasantly surprised. The SF time-travelling frame is quite interesting & they play it quite well; it's very un-SF feeling because of the 18-century setting of most of the action. Half-way through season one my general thought was that they had managed pretty admirably not to include multiple boring scenes of fighting/violence. But boy do they make up for that with their never ending threat of sexual violence & then (at the end of series one) actual acts of sexual violence. Pretty grim stuff. The settings were very enjoyable; we had a great time identifying all the places they'd filmed in Scotland. And the plot, while riddled with pitfalls, was handled pretty well (all things considered); it was almost as enjoyable debating the Scottish historical issues that are dealt with in the series, as it was watching the drama. Overall, pretty enjoyable.
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  11. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Eagerly waiting for the next Outlander season!
  12. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    Dunno about eager, but I'm sure I'll take it in later in the year when it becomes more generally available.
  13. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    I liked Outlander the book but I dislike Jamie.
  14. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    You read my enthousiastic recommendation (and explanation).
  15. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    Is that a question?
  16. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    It was a reminder.
  17. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

  18. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    My enthousiastic recommendation (and explanation) of the Outlander series.
  19. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    Has this already happened?
  20. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Yes. You forgot about it.

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