Most overrated Maiden album?

Nope, if I feel like listening to a whole Maiden album, I'll take FotD over PoM any day of the week (along with some other Golden Era albums). PoM has a fair few of Maiden's "classics," but I've always felt Side A and Side B were very lopsided as far as "these are the best songs on the album, so we're doing them live," and "these are the songs we're largely going to forget about live, and/or are filler." It doesn't help that Side A's been pretty well beaten to death, so naturally I'm pretty well satiated (or over-satiated) as far as needing to hear them again. But again--the songs they've played a lot live are all great, great songs (though I've never been the biggest fan of Where Eagles Dare, Revelations, or Die with Your Boots On personally, and I prefer live versions of The Trooper to the studio).

Not-a-Hot-Take-But-a-Common-One: I've always had the same opinion of Powerslave--I think of it as an Oreo, if you really like the cookie part but are, "eh, it's good, but not my favorite," about the center.

Fear goes down a lot of weird and interesting avenues which, I'll admit, not all of them work 100%. It has a great flow, a variety of song types so nothing really sounds too same-y, and only the title track has been flogged to death. Never been big on Weekend Warrior, and though musically The Apparition feels unfinished, I've always found the lyrics oddly charming. But overall it's weirdly the one album of theirs that I get a strong hankering to listen to out of the blue.
Yeah, perfectly put. I completely feel the same about both albums, FOTD and POM, just the way you describe them.
Studio-Trooper is also not mine, compared to many live versions of the song. Only one thing you didn't mention, maybe it's just my point, however -I utterly dislike the the guitar sound on POM in general. It just doesn't fit a Maiden album and the guitars are lacking in bite and gain all throughout the entire POM album. And it's very interesting that Maiden never tried to come only close to the POM album guitar sound in any of the albums songs in their live versions. To me the guitars on POM always sounded misplaced.

Even the debut album guitars sound better.
 
Piece of Mind easily has the best guitar sound they ever achieved in the 80s. Lush and full, not shrill like Powerslave nor overly effected like SiT. Just right. In addition the most overrated album is Number of the Beast while the most overrated album in Maidenfans et al. terms is Somewhere in Time. Both are incredible albums, but both receive undue emphasis next to the rest of the band's catalogue for name recognition alone.
 
Critics gave it a 2 star and fans 3.5. That's the opinion of people on FotD. Only NPFTD and Blaze era did worse. That's the opinion of all the fans I know too.
Yes, but this is exactly the definition of being subjectively. As you say: it is peoples OPINION. That does not make it objective at all. Objectively would be a statement like "on FOTD they changed more into an AC/DC direction and used more repetition than on previous albums", or "the guitar sound has less mids and treble than on SIT", because those are measurable facts. As soon as you add "and that's good / bad" or a rating, it is not objective anymore, but simply a personal taste.
If it didn't have the title track it would be the worst Maiden album by far. It saved the album. Songs like Weekend Warrior and Chains of Misery are some of the worst they ever released
Proof how subjective it is: I think Weekend Warrior is a great track, and even without he title track, FOTD would still be a good album. It is just a matter of opinion.
BNW is the only Maiden album after SSOASS that I can listen to without skipping anything.
FotD has 1 great song, 2 good, 1 ok ballad and the rest shit or mid at best. Can't be compared with SIT,which has 8/8 good songs. Don't forget Fear has 12 songs.
Blaze era has indeed some good songs (especially X factor), but I can't listen to a whole album at once. Too dark and monotonous.
Since I consider Doom Metal the greatest of all Metal subgenres, "dark and monotonous" can be a very good thing.
 
To me Piece of Mind and Powerslave has the best sound of the 80's albums. SIT and 7Son production is also great but not so metal (they lean in the other direction)
 
Can't be underrated when half of it are filler/bad tracks. If it didn't have the title track nobody would care about the album. I like some songs too, but it is definitely in the 5 worst Maiden albums. By Maiden standards, it's a bad album
I think every Maiden album can be called underrated, more or less. That's the band's strength. The album is not just the title track for many fans, granted. There are 2-3 weaker songs (imo, by Maiden standards and not pure metal stuff), should that make the whole album bad? For example, is a song like Chains Of Misery weaker than Holy Smoke or Hooks In You? Nope imo. Not to mention From Here To Eternity. They're like Gangland/Sun And Steel-type of songs but from a new era. Plus the guitar playing/solos on it is definitely not bad for Maiden standards, the opposite. The 90's stuff is usually the albums which are labeled as the band's worst - in FOTD case, because of some of the weaker/filler/mixed material and style - but I think that speaks more about the rest of the discography. Remove the said ''worst'' songs from it (12 songs album! 10 it's not that different, 8 for sure) and I don't think it can't be compared with some of the 80's material and albums.
The title track and the cover art, I'd say, have boosted FOTD.
Agree that its a very mixed album, and the production sounds dated to my ears now in a way the 80s albums don't
The title track and the cover are massive, true that, but it wasn't released as a lead single. Maiden were still popular in the early 90's.

If there is one album whose production doesn't sound dated to me - it's probably FOTD.
Am I the only one who likes FOTD as an album more than POM?
Certainly not. Better and likes are different after all.
but there are some aspects that, if refined or even omitted, would benefit them.
and while I think some sections are repeated far too many times, some others are criminally played only once
Good points. But I never find Maiden songs flow (the long ones) not done good.
Imagine what a monster Transilvania could have been wih a proper vocal line.
True, but it's also perfect as it is. I think Losfer Words could have been improved with vocals. It's not an impressive instrumental or an interesting one. But I can't categorize it as bad, 80's Maiden changes and twists.

Btw, the Powersalve album has some odd features (probably because the band had fun before the writing and recordings):

Losfer Words - only 1 short solo for a short instrumental (almost like Genghis Khan and both songs are probably fillers on their albums).
Flash Of The Blade - no proper solos (happened before and after, but not common - only for Murders, Genghis Khan, Purgatory, Running Free, Iron Maiden and Deja-Vu).
Back In The Village - really short solos (like for Gangland, Sun And Steel, Can I Play With Madness)

I always found this strange with Maiden and metal at their peak.
Die With your Boots On is not a bad song but comes close bc of the terrible chorus.
Strongly disagree. BNW has 3 great songs and a lot of mediocrity. NPFTD has a better rate with 3 great and 3 pretty good songs (and admittedly some turds).
FOTD has 2 shit songs, 2 mediocre ones and 8 ones between very good and awesome. That's as much quality material as on SIT (and also questions your thesis that the album is objectively bad).
Blaze era had a lot of good songs. Artworks, production and live performances went clearly downhill in that era, but there were quite a few great songs on both albums, especially X Factor.
First statement - sometimes a weak chorus is not enough, at least for me.
Second statement - wow.
For the rest - agreed.
I get that instrumentals can feel undercooked with certain bands, but imo they have a reason to exist. Music is about expressing yourself. You can do that in a million ways, not only with vocals. Take a song like The Red And The Black for example: I could see how someone could make the argument that the rushed vocals in the verses aren't adding much to the song, while the instrumental back half is the strongest part of the song, thus turning it into an instrumental and editing it down a bit could've resulted in an even stronger song. Though that would rob us of its anthemic chorus, which would be a shame.

Considering how modern Maiden songwriting has changed, it would be interesting to see how Steve for example would approach writing an instrumental nowadays. Sure, we can be cynical and say that he'd just have the vocals double the lead guitar, but not having to balance vocals with the music could also result in some really creative riff and lick writing. I don't think it's realistic to expect an instrumental from Maiden though.
This.
Fear goes down a lot of weird and interesting avenues which, I'll admit, not all of them work 100%. It has a great flow, a variety of song types so nothing really sounds too same-y, and only the title track has been flogged to death. But overall it's weirdly the one album of theirs that I get a strong hankering to listen to out of the blue.
Well said. It's because of the material and the variety is a strong aspect for the album. I can compare it with DOD in that regard. Nothing wrong to prefer it to something more traditional and metal for the band. I love to listen to such albums from start to finish, just like the classic ones, it's just sometimes the fun and variety is what we need.
Critics gave it a 2 star and fans 3.5. That's the opinion of people on FotD. Only NPFTD and Blaze era did worse. That's the opinion of all the fans I know too. It's a pretty bad album by Maiden standards. If it didn't have the title track it would be the worst Maiden album by far. It saved the album.
The common opinion is such, but at the same time it went #1 in the charts. The worse album without the title track? I don't think so. Blaze's albums and No Prayer would still be, methinks. Still a good album, although the title track is special.
Piece of Mind easily has the best guitar sound they ever achieved in the 80s. Lush and full, not shrill like Powerslave nor overly effected like SiT. Just right.
POM's guitars are a bit raw (the riffs, not much the solos), but very nice and different to the rest. But the best production from the 80's is imo Powerslave.
SIT and 7Son production is also great but not so metal (they lean in the other direction)
Seventh Son production sounds like a marriage of metal and symphonic approach, great. SIT production fits all genres, futuristic one too lol. Every 80's production has its charm and strengths, debut album too. Good stuff all around.
I think Weekend Warrior is a great track, and even without he title track
I also think Weekend Warrior is not bad but rather a solid song. Very solid. They just needed to remove the acoustic guitars and to have more metal feel. It's a song with repetitions, but I think only the pre-chorus isn't good (The Unbeliever did it better), although somehow fun. The fans wanted more metal approach for FOTD, that's it. And not something different for the band.
 
Number of the beast has 2 weak songs
Piece of mind 2 too
Powerslave 3
For me:
Iron Maiden - 0/1*
Killers - 1
TNOTB - 1/2
POM - 1*
Powersalve - 1 (it's hard to say with an instrumental and if we compare it to the rest of the material)
SIT - 0
SSOASS - 0

NPFTD - 2/3*
FOTD - 2/3*
TXF - 0/1
VXI - 1/2*

BNW - 0
DOD - 1
AMOLAD - 0
TFF - 1*
TBOS - 1
SJ - 0
 
Yeah, perfectly put. I completely feel the same about both albums, FOTD and POM, just the way you describe them.
Studio-Trooper is also not mine, compared to many live versions of the song. Only one thing you didn't mention, maybe it's just my point, however -I utterly dislike the the guitar sound on POM in general. It just doesn't fit a Maiden album and the guitars are lacking in bite and gain all throughout the entire POM album. And it's very interesting that Maiden never tried to come only close to the POM album guitar sound in any of the albums songs in their live versions. To me the guitars on POM always sounded misplaced.

Even the debut album guitars sound better.
I also prefer FOTD than POM, I like Fear very much, it is in my Top 5
 
Number of the beast has 2 weak songs
Piece of mind 2 too
Powerslave 3
Best iron maiden album seventh son and brave new world.
IMO when it comes to songs that are subpar/ fillers or songs I don't like:

Zero songs: Iron Maiden (in my rank it's #9), Killers (#5), Powerslave (#2), Somewhere In Time (#1), Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son (#3), The X Factor (#6), A Matter Of Life And Death (#7) and The Final Frontier (#11). Of course, that doesn't make all of them top albums (i.e. I rank TFF quite below the remainder of the aforementioned albums or others records featuring what I consider to be fillers) ... but it sure does help.

One song: The Number Of The Beast(#8) has Gangland, Piece Of Mind(#4) has Quest For Fire*, No Prayer For The Dying (#13) has Hooks In You and Senjutsu (#12) has Darkest Hour.

Two songs: Dance Of Death (#10) has Age Of Innocence and New Frontier * and The Book Of Souls (#15) has The Man Of Sorrows and Shadows Of Valley.

Three Songs: Virtual XI (#16) has The Angel And The Gambler, When Two Worlds Collide and Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger, Brave New World (#14) has the title track, The Mercenary and Dream Of Mirrors.

* Cool songs but I think Bruce's melody choice for the vocals is awful. would be cool instrumentals though.

... As for Fear Of The Dark (dead last) it's easier to point out what IMO aren't fillers or stinkers: Be Quick Or Be Dead, Afraid To Shoot Strangers, Childhood's End, Judas Be My Guide and the title track.
 
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Piece of Mind easily has the best guitar sound they ever achieved in the 80s. Lush and full, not shrill like Powerslave nor overly effected like SiT. Just right.
I couldn't disagree more.

The guitars on POM sound like they're coming through a tin can. It would be their worst guitar sound of the 80s if it weren't for the debut. Powerslave is an improvement as they have more attack and gain.

NOTB is their best 80s guitar tone.
 
The guitars on POM sound like they're coming through a tin can. It would be their worst guitar sound of the 80s if it weren't for the debut.
This. Worst from the 80's if it wasn't the debut album sound? Maybe, but the more ''hard-riffy/thick'' sound is a nice change to have.
NOTB is their best 80s guitar tone.
It's up there for sure, different and ''metallic'', but the overall guitar tone of SIT (so futuristic) and SSOASS (sounds majestic) are also candidates. Powerslave is good too. Like VXI solos sound imo.

From all albums I can add: FOTD and TBOS. BNW? SJ is a right step too.
 
This. Worst from the 80's if it wasn't the debut album sound? Maybe, but the more ''hard-riffy/thick'' sound is a nice change to have.

It's up there for sure, different and ''metallic'', but the overall guitar tone of SIT (so futuristic) and SSOASS (sounds majestic) are also candidates. Powerslave is good too. Like VXI solos sound imo.

From all albums I can add: FOTD and TBOS. BNW? SJ is a right step too.
I love the Krueger sound of SiT and SSOASS but they admittedly are very processed and of their time especially with the thick chorus effect.

Powerslave uses similar amps as PoM but they refined and improved the tone, making it less muddy and using more overdrive boosts. But I just love the metallic razor blade sound of NOTB. Also, not a studio album but LAD has their best guitar tone of the 80s overall.

The less we discuss Maiden's guitar sound of the 90s the better. BNW is their best guitar tone of the reunion era.
 
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