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Fair enough!!

I'd rather a good German beer myself (I've never found a Canadian beer at my store).


So....if a guy wanted to run Linux on his Gateway... where is a good place to get that?
 
That is what I thought, about it being free.  I just didn't know if dif places had dif versions.

Thanks, I'll check that out!!
 
Ubuntu is the most common and most user friendly Linux variant, so it's probably the best place for him to start.  The community is really good, too.
 
Cool!

I think i have something corrupt in my XP operating system... it'll run short times or longer times and freeze up.... I thot it may have been the processor, but I was told that if it ran in BIOS with out any freezing, it might be something in the OS instead... so I'm gonna try something dif (linux) and see if it works better...
 
Scandisk i did run.... didn't help.

I have the codes for XP Pro, but not a disc....  tho, i may try that also...

"Nuke and pave"... I like that!!
 
I think i have something corrupt in my XP operating system... it'll run short times or longer times and freeze up.... I thot it may have been the processor, but I was told that if it ran in BIOS with out any freezing, it might be something in the OS instead... so I'm gonna try something dif (linux) and see if it works better...

That's bullshit they told you. I'd check the memory and see if my GFX GPU tends to overheat.

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/&nbsp;   <--- grab the ISO here, burn it, boot, select some memory test and leave it for a few hours.

System can't freeze from a software error. XP can crash with blue screen of death if something went wrong in ring0, eg. the part of the system where device drivers reside and the part of the system that communicates with hardware on low-level. Thus, you'll get BSOD if you have faulty driver or faulty hardware, but the pure system freeze comes from hardware error only.
 
Yeah, true...it's an old lappy, so it could easily be heat issues.  Might want to crack it open and go at it with a can o' air.
 
LooseCannon said:
Ubuntu is the most common and most user friendly Linux variant, so it's probably the best place for him to start.  The community is really good, too.
Can't argue with that. I run my laptop on a dual-boot (good old Grub) and the default OS is Ubuntu.


LooseCannon said:
Yeah, true...it's an old lappy, so it could easily be heat issues.  Might want to crack it open and go at it with a can o' air.
Agree again. A spray of compressed air over the CPU heat-sink can solve so many issues on the older laptops. The problem they had was using the same CPU architecture used in Desktops - but on a small laptop casing. The CPU could not get cool enough and the fan would just suck in too much dust.
 
Thanks all-- that makes sense.  I had thought since it sometimes locked up when first starting that it mite not be the processor.  So, it is ok to open it up and blow air on it?  (sounds like brain surgery to me!!)

Anyway, i'll try to clean it first.


OK-- to you guys that know all this:  I was 75% done downloading the linux on my Gateway when it froze up... when I re-started it, I couldn't find it anywhere and have to start all over again-- Is the partial download somewhere on the computer?  (yes, I should have used my Mac to download and burn the OS, since the Gateway is freeze-prone)

On the heat issue, I had thought that since it froze up sometimes on first start in the morn maybe that wasn't it?  But the more I use it (it had been boxed for 9+ months) the more often it will freeze, so you are all prob right.  If it has to be replaced two questions:  (1)  is it expensive to do so?  (2) is it worth it on a few years old lappy?
 
OK-- to you guys that know all this:  I was 75% done downloading the linux on my Gateway when it froze up... when I re-started it, I couldn't find it anywhere and have to start all over again-- Is the partial download somewhere on the computer?

What browser are you using?

On the heat issue, I had thought that since it froze up sometimes on first start in the morn maybe that wasn't it?  But the more I use it (it had been boxed for 9+ months) the more often it will freeze, so you are all prob right.  If it has to be replaced two questions:  (1)  is it expensive to do so?  (2) is it worth it on a few years old lappy?

I don't think it's a CPU issue. Maybe cleaning the heatsink with air compressor would do good. Try running memtest with that bootable CD i mentioned before. Try running DirectX 3D test several times from Windows (start->run->dxdiag->video->test Direct3D). If it freezes, then it's GPU. For all i know, it can't be replaced on older laptops.

Basically, opening the whole case and airing all components would be good.

BTW, if anyone is online, i'm on IRC and it's empty...
 
Zare said:
What browser are you using?

I'm runing Internet Explorer  (6 maybe?  the one before the tabbed browsing)


I don't think it's a CPU issue. Maybe cleaning the heatsink with air compressor would do good. Try running memtest with that bootable CD i mentioned before. Try running DirectX 3D test several times from Windows (start->run->dxdiag->video->test Direct3D). If it freezes, then it's GPU. For all i know, it can't be replaced on older laptops.

Basically, opening the whole case and airing all components would be good.

OK, cool-- and thanks for the leads.  I'll try to download that, burn it and run it . 
I'd join you on the chat, but I have one laptop that freezes up and one that drops the wireless... the only cable that I have is hooked up to the xbox, streaming A-team!

LC is usually around there...
 
Yeah, the GPU is a for sure possibility, but CPU is also possible, I've seen it on more than one unit, especially ones from about 4-5 years ago.
 
I'm runing Internet Explorer  (6 maybe?  the one before the tabbed browsing)

Ditch that shit and get yourself a decent browser.  :D

Anyway, IE6 doesn't support resumed downloads. The partial download is probably in it's cache directory (assuming that systemroot is C:, it's in C:\Documents And Settings\{your Windows username here}\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files). You'll need to either unhide system directories in Explorer (Tools -> Folder Options), or enter the directory address manually somewhere (run box) for instance. If you find the partial download, get wget for windows (google), it's CLI (command line) program, so unpack the archive somewhere on your desktop (lets say "wget" folder), and put the partial downloaded file there.

Go into console (start->run->cmd), you'll be already in your profile's directory, enter "cd wget", and then "wget -c partial". Of course, replace partial with your actual partial downloaded file name (watch for the extension, if it isn't displayed, explorer->tools->folder options, uncheck "hide extensions for known file types".


Yeah, the GPU is a for sure possibility, but CPU is also possible, I've seen it on more than one unit, especially ones from about 4-5 years ago.

I haven't heard about faulty CPU in ages. But anything is possible. There are also CPU tests on that "Ultimate Boot CD", so he should run them also.
 
I usually use Firefox on my Mac... Just never changed anything with the gateway. 

Thanks for the info, to all of you!!
 
Zare said:

I haven't heard about faulty CPU in ages. But anything is possible. There are also CPU tests on that "Ultimate Boot CD", so he should run them also.

Not faulty, just smoking, you know.  My old Celeron was getting quite hot till I blew it out.  If it was a failure, I'd agree.  Anyway, just minor stuff here.
 
My old laptop is prone to overheating, it can get so hot you could fry an egg on it. The problem it has is that the fan is sucking in so much dust it clogs up and then will shut down when it overheats. The only solution is to open up the case and blow it all out and it works fine - for a few months. This laptop would have probably of been the last line of laptops that used the same processors on desktops but (understandably) smaller heatsinks - and the fan can be quite noisy as well.
 
From my experience, every new series of computer hardware is worse in quality than previous one. For instance, my previous workstation was Pentium 4 based, bought it in 2001. It's hard drive is even a year or year-and-a-half older. I replaced it with core quad in early 2008. That P4 tolerated seven years of heavy abusement, component changes, pull this out put this in, it always worked. When i got core quad, i placed that P4 as an internet gateway/VPN server for my home network. It currently works for over a year on the balcony with opened case. On the other hand, my core quad mainboard just fried out several days ago. I bought myself a terabyte drive, plugged it in, and in that moment, complete south bridge fried out, and that means SATA controller, USBs, everything. Ok, i've got warranty, but i will be without my main computer for a week or more, and i don't tolerate that kind of stuff easily.

Considering that i'm always willing to give 500 euros just for the CPU, mainboard and memory, i want it to last for years. They don't make them like they used to. So, don't bug yourself if it's an old and crappy computer. If it works, and it does your work, stick to it, regardless of the fact that it may be slow sometimes.
 
Yeah, I have heard similar with the core quads.  I have a C2D and I am pretty much enjoying it so far.  Maxing that shit out is fun, but I decided I didn't need to overclock it when I was running Crysis at full settings with no lag.
 
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