Foro, you should know as well as anyone that if you have any interest in something, you have an opinion.
What I mean is that religion should be sturdy and staunch in it's beliefs. A church shouldn't change it's message or it's belief system to make people happy. Being devoted to a religion should take an effort and should require you to follow a belief system. A church can't stand for something if it is always changing it's mind about its message.
What message, about what? A religion can have many messages.
Why can it not stand for something when it changes? What makes you think so? The church has to stay the same as in the Middle Ages?
As to the blue, I don't think that is contradictory at all. If you don't believe in what the church's message is, then leave. Don't expect a religion to change its message just because you don't like it (and I mean 'you' generic, not 'you' specifically.)
Come on. This is Manowar talk. "If you are not in metal, you are not my friend."
"Heavy metal or no metal at all whimps and posers
leave the hall". ;-)
A government needs to evolve to keep up with the times. A religion's message should be sound, no matter what the time is. If you believe that truth is absolute. Which most religions do.
It still depends on what you mean with the message. The core of the message(s) can still sound the same, without the same strict rules and condemnation around it as in the Middle Ages.
I'm using religious logic in my arguments here. Chose a belief system and stick to it.
This is religious logic of the most extreme sort. Why would
you like to use it? What principle is behind that?
By the way, are the terms religion and church the same for you? I ask that because it sounds a bit like that.
There are many different religions but also different church institutions. Take the Catholic church. In Poland it is very conservative, a bit like in the Netherlands 50 years ago. People go
en masse to the church.
Out of hope, but also out of fear. Around Christmas, every citizen gets a visit, and the priest has to be paid. And you may explain why you have not come to the Church (in case you haven't). My wife's aunt cannot get children and for years the fucking priests keeps condemning her because she doesn't have children. Since a few years, she doesn't open the door for them anymore.
Man, am I glad that more liberal churches do exist.
It won't come as a surprise, but in the Netherlands the Catholic church has become more liberal over the years. I don't see any conflict or problem in that. Naturally, it depends on the person you're talking to. There are conservative priests (they also wear different clothes) and less conservative priests. In Israel there are orthodox Jews but more liberal Jews also exist. When people are less strict, then I feel they are less condemning and more empathic, taking more into account with circumstances in life, in 2013.
What's the problem with that? I only know people who have a problem with that who are religiously very conservative themselves, but you make me feel you are not religious, so this intrigues me.
For some reason, it makes me think of how one can think of the US constitution. Stick to it, or leave.
I think a belief in something can be more subtle than that. It can be very individual (or spiritual), even without a church. Alas, it looks like that in Poland the church has taken over. And in certain areas in the USA.
). This is my view, on faith, but specifically that one. it is what it should be. I'm not 'faithful', I'm not athiest, I guess agnostic is as close as it gets? I just don't care. But, when it comes to religion, I think that people should switch churches if they don't like what they hear; churches shouldn't change their statement to fit the congregation. That's just me. Religion should be the most conservative thing.
Im on my Monday shift lunch break of 4pm which sucks. It's also cloudy and cold. Bleh!
