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Forostar said:
For the lingo buffs: Which language was spoken in the ancient Troy?
Check this English article

http://www.kloekhorst.nl/KloekhorstLanguageOfTroy.pdf
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That is an interesting article. I had heard of the Lemnian/Etruscan relation before. With the lack of other available material, I can only say that it is at least a plausible theory. From an Indo-European viewpoint, the *tru- root theory makes sense, but I don't know how solid it is. You'd need to scrupulously investigate the phonetic developments of all the languages mentioned and probably a few more for reference points in order to see if this is phonetically and historically possible and probable. That is at the very least the topic for a doctoral thesis. But even if it is theoretically possible, the crux remains that there is no direct, positive evidence.

For those interested, I found the Beekes 2002 article that Kloekhorst builds on, here:
http://www.knaw.nl/Content/Internet_KNAW/publicaties/pdf/20021051.pdf

I always thought that Leiden is exemplary in the way they make their publications available online. I am a bit surprised that I never heard of Beekes before, despite the fact that he apparently wrote a grammar of Gatha-Avestan. I'll need to see if I can find some reviews of that work so I can at least in some way evaluate what kind of a scientist he is.

I haven't read that article yet, so I can't say anything about it. And given that I'm an Iranologist, I can really only evaluate if the historical and linguistic method he uses is sound, but not if what he does is correct by content.
 
Glad you liked it Perun, and also Ariana. To be honest, I hadn't completely read it myself yet, but I had a hunch you guys might be interested.
 
Yes, I'll definitely read it, especially after Perun's comments. I have to go fetch the kid from kindergarten and I'll read it later.
 
Admittedly, western Anatolian linguistics is not exactly my specialty. I really only know some very basic facts, and some of what Kloekhorst mentioned was entirely new to me (I didn't even know that there were attestations for Mysian, Carian and Sidetic). The problem is that from what I can see, it's all a load of speculation and educated guesses. I understand the temptations, but none of this can pass for proven facts (although Beekes seems to see that differently, judging by the introduction to his article). It would be really cool if we could say that the Aeneid is an echo of a historical migration, and the significance for the cultural history of Europe would be tremendous. But it's one of those things that sadly, we will probably never be able to prove within the current state of affairs.
 
Wow....

OK, I think Chemical Wedding is one of my all time favorites, and Innuendo is amazing (to me). @Moon Child, I play xbox and usually Battlefield. if you are interested (or anyone playing xbox) Newegg.com is selling xbox live memberships (12 month) for $40 -- I just stumbled across it yesterday.

And, it's 8:30 am here in the beautiful midwest. I am too lazy to translate temp, but it's about 19F here. I slept like a rock, I am feeling lazy and I'm drinking my coffee as I'm setting up new users today.
 
1999: The world shivers in fear of the Y2K Bug. A total solar eclipse wanders over Europe, and the end of the world is nigh, because Nostradamus said so. On 9-9-99 nothing happens except that a newly-formed six-piece Iron Maiden, helmed by returning singer Bruce Dickinson, play their first European gig in the Palais Omnisports de Bercy, in Paris, France. Seven years later, a stoneheaded headbanger would witness his first Maiden gig at that venue.
 
Wästed The Great said:
Wow....

OK, I think Chemical Wedding is one of my all time favorites, and Innuendo is amazing (to me). @Moon Child, I play xbox and usually Battlefield. if you are interested (or anyone playing xbox) Newegg.com is selling xbox live memberships (12 month) for $40 -- I just stumbled across it yesterday.

And, it's 8:30 am here in the beautiful midwest. I am too lazy to translate temp, but it's about 19F here. I slept like a rock, I am feeling lazy and I'm drinking my coffee as I'm setting up new users today.
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Well, 19F would be 13F below freezing, and a change of 13F is equal to a change of 13*5/9 degrees C, so approx -7 degrees C (or 266 K). Chilly, but I guess the Midwest is used to such temperatures during winter. And plenty colder.
 
On 17th of August in 1999, a 7.6 magnitude earthquake strikes Gölcük town in Kocaeli, Turkey, causing 45.000 people (although the official numbers state 17,127 dies and 43,953 injured) to die.
 
Concerning my avatar, I would like to announce that the Moai is being sent on shore leave to visit his family on Easter Island over the holidays, as last year. He will be released from duty on the 22. December and is expected to report back on 2. January. I am currently looking through candidates for possible substitutes. Last year, Otto Weddigen did an exemplary job that will not be easy to surpass.
 
The Flash said:
On 17th of August in 1999, a 7.6 magnitude earthquake strikes Gölcük town in Kocaeli, Turkey, causing 45.000 people (although the official numbers state 17,127 dies and 43,953 injured) to die.
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I remember that. But how come there's such a huge difference? Are all those people considered missing?
 
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