Killers: Album Discussion


Ancient Mariner
I'm glad the kept the original style, for authenticity but also it means they won't do stupid things like make spelling mistakes or put photos from different eras in.


Ancient Mariner
Is that a US press? (sorry I'm watching the video with no sound)

The sticker is unfamiliar to me, I can't remember if there was stickers on the European presses.

EDIT: I just clicked another link from the side bar there and I see that the European ones had a japanese style OBI strip.

Diesel 11

As you scream into the web of silence...
Killers (1981)
  • One thing I think Maiden do that makes their discography so much more orderly is the way that they only have songs. No separated interludes and intros, just full and completed songs. Interludes can be cool as part of albums, but when looking at whole discographies they drive my OCD up a wall. Maiden have never done that. Yeah, "Ides of March" is short and works best when accompanying "Wrathchild", but it's still an excellent song in its own right. It works on its own. It's short, sweet, and concise.
  • The opening trio of the album are so fucking hype. "Ides" sets the tone perfectly, and "Wrathchild" delivers the punch. What a driving rocker. And then to follow that up with "Murder in the Rue Morgue" is just excellent. When the drums kick in it grabs you in a headlock and rapidly assaults your senses until it has your blood on its hands. And I mean this in a good way.
  • I should say though that I was very tempted to subtract a point from my rating for "Wrathchild". I know lots of people love the production on Killers, and it's definitely more polished than the debut and I don't really have many qualms for it overall, but it's not perfect. On "Wrathchild" especially it sounds like there's a fucking vacuum cleaner that got caught up in the recording and it bugs the hell out of me. I decide against removing a point though, because it's not really the song's fault and it's such a great song anyhow.
  • "Another Life" is where things go from great to average, though. It's not a bad song. It just doesn't go anywhere. "Drifter" is similar, but the issue is that I just completely zone out whenever that song comes on. Maybe it's a defense mechanism. And that carnival part of the instrumental section. Not good. The solo that precedes it is nice though.
  • There are some other "lesser" songs on here that straddle a solid line between 'great' and 'weak for Maiden'. "Prodigal Son" has some cool moments (the back-to-back solos!), but some of the twangy acoustics don't hit quite as I'd like, but not enough for me to really call it bad. (And the ending reminds me of Bob the Builder.) "Innocent Exile" feels like it's gonna go nowhere at first, but actually manages to bring it back for a strong instrumental outro. "Twilight Zone" is an interestingly unique Maiden song. I'd like it more if either the verse's vocal melody wasn't so ramshackled together, or if Paul was a better vocalist who could take a poorly written vocal line and make it work (see: Matt Barlow, Bruce Dickinson). "Purgatory" was almost in the same tier as the other songs. It's not as bad as I once thought, in all honesty, but I also think it squanders some of its potential. The ending especially disappointed me.
  • But there are two more truly great songs on Killers that help to balance what is a bit of a mixed bag. "Genghis Khan" is a fantastic instrumental. Three acts, no true guitar solo, just groove and bite and power. And there's the title track.
  • Paul isn't perfect on this album, but I truly gained a new respect for him because of "Killers", the song. There is so much nuance in his performance. It's like a true masterclass is sing-acting. He's got little gleeful delights as he sings of murder that land somewhere between Jack the Ripper and The Joker. Also "God help me what have I done" - he sings this in such a mocking tone. I always felt like this was a psyche break between the evil, destructive nature of the narrator and his sober, remorseful self. No. No it's not. It's an insane murderer mocking remorse. He enjoys his actions. Truly great storytelling on his part. Bruce, for all his greatness, couldn't have done it like this.
As a whole, it's definitely not a perfect album. I enjoyed it more now than I have in years, and there's nothing terrible in it. It's a mixed bag from average, bottom of the echelon Iron Maiden, to fiery early kick-ass Iron Maiden. Probably still my least favorite of there albums but maybe I'll surprise myself.

  1. The Ides of March - 9/10
  2. Wrathchild - 10/10
  3. Murders in the Rue Morgue - 10/10
  4. Another Life - 5/10
  5. Genghis Khan - 10/10
  6. Innocent Exile - 7/10
  7. Killers - 10/10
  8. Prodigal Son - 7/10
  9. Purgatory - 6/10
  10. Twilight Zone - 7/10
  11. Drifter - 5/10
Total: 74%


Ancient Mariner
Oh man…Another Life, Purgatory, Innocent Exile and Drifter are phenomenal songs 10/10 for me and Twilight Zone is excellent too.


Pica Serdica
Some day that young padawan will grok it in the fullness but I doubt I'll be around to witness it.


Yes, Yes, Another Beer!
Hmm, if the best song on every album gets a 10/10, then the rating only reflects the consistency of the album and nothing else.

Diesel 11

As you scream into the web of silence...
Hmm, if the best song on every album gets a 10/10, then the rating only reflects the consistency of the album and nothing else.
If the best song on an album doesn't jump out to me as a 10 then I won't rate it as a 10. See also: Jugulator, Death Magnetic.

I'm assigning the rating I feel as I listen to each song. And I'm stressing that this is done without any comparisons to songs on other albums. AKA, I'm not overthinking the ratings. Hence why I said I'm sorta taking these albums in their own vacuum. Not really, but I'm not stacking the rest of the band's discography against them.

So that leaves me with a fairly accurate final rating of the overall album.