Jazz?

I'd like to draw your attention to this very interesting record: Burning For Buddy: A Tribute to the Music of Buddy Rich

This is a tribute record with various drummers performing with Rich's Big Band -some of them known to rock fans, like Matt Sorum of G'n'R. Also some holy monsters of jazz are performing here like Morello, Roach & Gobham.

Last but not least Neil Peart, who is doing an excellent job on Cotton Tail. He is also the producer of the album. :)

Neil Peart's Cotton Tail:


Buddy Rich's Cotton Tail:


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That is very cool. Cotton Tail isn't an easy tune. My big band at school tried it awhile back and never got it together, I don't think we even got through the entire song at rehearsal. It really requires a competent drummer and for all the players to be paying attention to each other. Though a band should always have that, our band that year, however, did not. It's a really cool song though and Peart nailed it.
 
You have a Big Band in school?? That's amazing!! You go in a Music School, or a normal one??

And yes, this song clearly has been written in score, thus the extra difficulty. I read that the original drummer's name is Sonny Greer, a long term collaborator with Ellington, apparently..

I was trying to find yesterday any studio recording of Rich playing Cotton Tail, couldn't find anything among the albums I've got or any information from the net.. I discovered though, that there's another recording of BR at JATP, *except the known one* with Gene Krupa..

Good to know, I'm heading to get it ;)
 
______no5 said:
You have a Big Band in school?? That's amazing!! You go in a Music School, or a normal one??
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Yea it's awesome. I go to an art school, different sorts of arts you can audition for and mine is band playing saxophone. The jazz is extra optional courses but so worth it. I make sure to take them every year.

I was trying to find yesterday any studio recording of Rich playing Cotton Tail, couldn't find anything among the albums I've got or any information from the net.. I discovered though, that there's another recording of BR at JATP, *except the known one* with Gene Krupa..
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I've never heard of Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich playing at the JATP. In fact, I was only familiar with Krupa and Rich and Burnin' Beat as far as collaborations between the two go. Though I'm reading now about that record and it shows Lester Young on sax. I really like him, so I'll definitely check it out.
 
In fact the recording at JATP might be the first recorded battle of those two, released in limited pieces in '52, while Krupa & Rich is a 55ish.. The last song, Perdido (which appears also in 60s' Burning Beat) features Ella Fitzgerald, a nice way to close the album..

In case you're interested, there is an authorised bio of Rich written by Mel Torme (!!)
 
Sounds good. So these are the only 3 recordings with the two then?

Biography should be interesting, Buddy Rich was an interesting character.
 
Mosh said:
Sounds good. So these are the only 3 recordings with the two then?

Biography should be interesting, Buddy Rich was an interesting character.
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These 3 are the ones I'm aware of. After, I know there is at least one more from a TV show, though I'm not sure if it was properly released.
Krupa, was a big reference point in Buddy Rich's life, as he was one of the first 'star drummers' if not the very first. His work in Sing, Sing, Sing is breath-taking, I'm sure I've posted this video here again, but one more won't hurt anybody.

This must be the most dense piece of music ever!

 
Looks like an inspiration to the Muppet Show. Perhaps I should only listen to this. Krupa's facial expressions and exaggeratd movements take the attention away from his playing. And sometimes I think that the show is meant to be more important than the imo not very interesting music.

Sorry, as you had figured, I am not a fan of big bands. Strangely enough I really enjoy the Burning for Buddy DVD-set, but the difference is that I can really focus on the individual drummers.

Any recommendations for a good Krupa record without dominant blazer sections?
 
!! Seriously?? How more interesting music than this?? And how more innovative & genius drumming than this one you can get??

If I understood well, you want something from Krupa with more stripped down sound right?? Difficult. You have to search from his works with his Trio, preferably after '55. Maybe in specialised records shops, who knows.. I have some songs from that time here and there, but not a non-compilation, full album..

Yet I can recommend you three easy to find albums which qualify -I believe- to what you search:

1. JATP in Tokyo -this is a must. It features only a few songs from Gene Krupa Trio, but monsters of songs, especially Stompin' at the Savoy contains one of his finest drum solos. I'm pretty sure you gonna like the Oscar Peterson, Ella Fitzgerald & All Stars sessions as well.
2. After you're gone -Original Benny Goodman Trio & Quartet sessions Vol.1
3. From 6-2-3 -Gene Krupa Sextet & Gene Krupa Trio
 
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He has experimented with a lot with various 'exotic' rhythm signatures. Here's the opening track 'Blue Rondo a la Turk' from his most famous record, Time Out, in 9/8 a very popular rhythm in Turkey & Greece.

Below, two pieces from the same rhythm family, one from Turkey and one from Greece. The first one, is performed by my late teacher, Talip Ozkan.
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I just noticed this post. Yup, 9/8 is one of the most popular rhythms in Turkish folk music. Also, it's nice to see people who are familiar with bağlama (or saz) on this forum, I play bağlama myself.

By the way I really love jazz, yesterday I checked out Cannonball Adderley's fascinating work. Planning to discover more stuff I have a list consisted of jazz musicians I want to check out. I'm mostly into jazz fusion and progressive jazz rather than classical jazz and hard-bop stuff, though.
 
Cannonball is a great for sure. Yesterday I learned a chorus of his solo in All Blues, one of the absolute best solos on that record.

Forostar said:
Looks like an inspiration to the Muppet Show. Perhaps I should only listen to this. Krupa's facial expressions and exaggeratd movements take the attention away from his playing. And sometimes I think that the show is meant to be more important than the imo not very interesting music.
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I like the showmanship found in some of these videos, it's fun. I don't see anything wrong with musicians looking like they're having a good time on stage. To me, it's not very different than Janick's antics in Maiden.

I really like big band, I think it is some of the most interesting jazz out there, it's definitely a lot of fun to play. There's always something going on and every section is doing something to add to the tune. It's almost like chamber music in how parts are divided. I also love the way sections harmonize, especially saxophones.
 
The Flash said:
I just noticed this post. Yup, 9/8 is one of the most popular rhythms in Turkish folk music. Also, it's nice to see people who are familiar with bağlama (or saz) on this forum, I play bağlama myself.
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I appreciate a lot Turkish traditional music. My teacher, Talip Ozkan, was one of the biggest saz players in the world. If I ever met somebody who deserves to be called a Great, that was him. People from all around the world, were coming to Paris to be taught by Talip, some of them even renting an apartment, learn Turkish and spend years there, with the sole purpose to learn saz next to him..
I was unemployed and living in poverty back then and he never accepted any money for the lessons he was giving me, never!! May peace be upon his soul.
You should search about his life & music, it won't be difficult for you.. And it case it is, I guess you do have a Dropbox account, right?? ;)
 
Hey guys, happy new year!

Something awesome happened to me.. Since a while I wanted to purchase these SONOS sound-system, very cool sound, plus can be controlled from your iPhone and can play different playlists for each room the same time..
Anyway, even though I really wanted to buy them, I was delaying the purchase because of limited budget. So yesterday, first of the year, my best friend, calls me and tells me to come in his apartment to collect my sound system!! He bought it for me and I will pay him in two times (affordable).. What an awesome action!! Especially those days, being alone & far from home, it's something that warms your heart, only the fact that he thought it could be enough, let alone he paid it.

I never had a sound system before (I thought the pc speakers are enough -how silly I was) and I regret so much for those wasted years!! They have transformed the whole ambience of my apartment, it's like a different place dudes!!

Anyway, I'm gonna propose you two albums I'm listening in my newly installed system, right now.

Now Playing: Buddy Rich & his sextet -Blues Caravan, 1962, a wonderful album very compatible with Forostar's tastes ;) with a mind blowing version of Caravan, some surprisingly soft passages with vibraphone & flute & the usual mind blowing solos from Mr. Rich.

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In Queue: Lonnie Smith -Move your Hand, 1969, a very cool listening. The kind of record that you want to put on deck while having some drinks with friends, doesn't make you think, but it certainly makes you groove and 40 minutes pass like sugar ;) Loads of funky rhythms led by Smith's organ, highly recommendable!!

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I thought I'd share an album that I was turned on to yesterday.

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This is a very short lived fusion project. Which is unfortunate because this is an amazing lineup. Mahavishnu's John McLaughlin, Weather Report's Jaco Pastorius, and Tony Williams, who played on all kinds of records, including a bunch with Miles and one of my all time favorite albums, Out To Lunch by Eric Dolphy. This lineup was only around for one live show and a studio recording. Both of these are captured here. The material here is great and the playing is spectacular, as should be expected by these players. Just a fantastic record by a trio that should've lasted longer.
 
Strange, though I knew this record since ages, and I love Jaco & Williams, I never ever had the curiosity even to listen to it on youtube. Heading for a youtube listening right now.

Poor Jaco, I always thought his collaboration /friendship with Zawinul was his blossom and same time his doom. One can not blame the later though, it was a kind of fatality..

What's your opinion on Pastorius bass-wise, Mosh /Foro??
 
I still have not heard that release. I saw the CD in a shop but thought it too expensive for such a short set.
Will listen to it on YouTube!

Jaco was a great bassplayer but I am not the biggest fan of Weather Report because I am not that much into funk and the drums/rhythms don't have that variety that I search for in jazz/rock/fusion. I am curious to hear him in a different environment and wonder what Williams does in this context.
 
This album sounds more like Mahavishnu than Weather Report. Despite being more of a Weather Report guy, I really like it that way because it shows Jaco in a different context.

Jaco is one of my absolute favorites. It's a shame he never worked with Miles. Weather Report was my introduction to pure fusion and helped me to really get into jazz. Definitely took jazz bass to a new level, and died way too young.

@Foro: Have you heard his selftitled solo album? It's a great diverse recording. It might be more up your alley.
 
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