Samantas5855
Ancient Mariner
Spot on, most modern Harris are kinda similar, too long and sometimes boring
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Kalata
Out of the Silent Planet
No one can create long songs, intros and melodies (and in general, songs) like Steve! No one. Far from being similar or boring.
Cool intro and melodies.A Finnish Maiden podcast made... somewhat humoristic video about the songwriting, playing and composition tropes of Maiden, with particular focusing on Steve Harris and at the end of the video there is a "parody-tribute"/demonstration of that - The Yeoman.
Timestamped at the beginning of the song. I think that at least the intro is very, very spot-on.A bit of a Mother Russia meets The Nomad, Dance of Death and Death of the Celts/Hell on Earth or something.
TheMercenary
Ancient Mariner
Some live-reports about this 3rd and last leg of the LOTB world tour (in french, in german and in polish). 
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Iron Maiden enflamme le Graspop
La première tête d’affiche du festival de metal qui se tient à Dessel a tenu son rang de meilleur groupe de heavy metal.
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Iron Maiden: Metal ohne Ablaufdatum
Die britischen Metal-Pioniere Iron Maiden gastierten Sonntagabend im Wr. Neustädter Stadion – ein Konzert, das eigentlich schon 2020 hätte stattfinden sollen. Der Auftritt führte quer durch die Bandgeschichte, ohne Alters- oder Müdigkeitserscheinungen.
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Iron Maiden auf dem Wasen: Monarchen des Metal auf Triumphzug
Iron Maiden haben auf dem Cannstatter Wasen geliefert, was ihre Anhänger sich von ihnen wünschen: Sie sind in einer bunten Rockshow durch ihre Hits galoppiert.
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Einige Fans mussten beim Konzert von Iron Maiden leiden, ohne Bargeld gab es nichts zu trinken und zu essen. Der Geldautomat auf dem Wasen war kaputt. Nun wird er repariert.
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Iron Maiden na Narodowym - informacje w pigułce dla fanów. To warto wiedzieć!
Po opóźnieniach spowodowanych pandemią COVID-19, Iron Maiden nareszcie znów zawitają do Polski! Legendarny zespół zagra na warszawskim Stadionie Narodowym już 2...
Randalf
Ancient Mariner
No one can come up with chorus repeat of The Angel and the Gambler and put it out as a first single and just walk it off like Steve. No one.
Right, right... I agree that Steve has a brilliant sense of drama and melodies and the way he wiggles it with E-C-D is magical and quite unmatched. However, I think the criticism also has it's place. While Steve's stubbornness is probably the reason why Maiden still exists on this level, it's also one of the main reasons behind the biggest issues on their output over the past couple of decades.
I suppose it's bit of a ying-yang thing or whatever.love ya, 'Arry!
Samantas5855
Ancient Mariner
The single was shorter tho, it was the actual runtime, the album version had a copy pasted pasted chorus in the mastering stage which is even worse. At least with the angle and the gambler an even shorter version exists.No one can come up with chorus repeat of The Angel and the Gambler and put it out as a first single and just walk it off like Steve. No one.
Right, right... I agree that Steve has a brilliant sense of drama and melodies and the way he wiggles it with E-C-D is magical and quite unmatched. However, I think the criticism also has it's place. While Steve's stubbornness is probably the reason why Maiden still exists on this level, it's also one of the main reasons behind the biggest issues on their output over the past couple of decades.
love ya, 'Arry!
Randalf
Ancient Mariner
Yep, that is a fair point!
I think the single edit isn't that great though, as the repetition is still there and the third verse which, in my opinion anyway, actually does the song and it's narrative some favours, is completely omitted. It makes the song fall very flat towards the end; not that the album version had a huge climax either... Anyway, I think the single edit is neither a very good song or a funny/interesting curiosity where as the album version at least manages to be... well, significant in a debatable manner, eh.
Kalata
Out of the Silent Planet
The long version of TAATG was a mistake, I agree (Steve wanted this to be the live version of the song). On the other hand, the single short version should have been with a third verse and both solos. When you remove the repetition, this is actually a decent song (4-6 minutes long). Since we have both a long and a short version of the song, I think Steve realised his mistake.
Anyway, now let's talk about Steve. I want to share my opinion.
The production of the albums - Steve probably has the final say, some fans don't like the production of the albums since 2003 (and for TXF & VXI), but it's not like the sound is terrible, right. Yeah, it could have been way better for some of the albums, but at least the production is distinctive from all modern productions (Maiden prefer the old way, as we know) and every album has its own sound (that's something I will always praise).
The production of the live albums - the answer for the live stuff is Kevin Shirley, it's simple (he is great with the live sound). The only live albums of Maiden with not so good production imo are A Real Live Dead One/Live At Donington '92 (although the rough sound is really suitable for that era and I like it) and Nights Of The Dead (which is strange since the sound of Live Chapter is very good imo, the concert video has remarks though. The production team is the same!), but it's not garbage by any means (maybe because the whole thing was done very quickly and more as a bonus the production is not great)... tbh, I prefer a concert video from the LOTB tour more.
- And just to clarify, I think Metallica's live sound in 2022 is excellent.
P.S. I don't want to mention some of the album covers, because Maiden still have the best covers in metal.
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GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
A Finnish Maiden podcast made... somewhat humoristic video about the songwriting, playing and composition tropes of Maiden, with particular focusing on Steve Harris and at the end of the video there is a "parody-tribute"/demonstration of that - The Yeoman.
Timestamped at the beginning of the song. I think that at least the intro is very, very spot-on.
That is hilariously spot on!
Well, it picks up a song structure that often occurs with Iron Maiden. But this is not a special insight.
Other than that, I found this boring, not what Steve writes.
It neither has the interesting harmonic major scale or raw bass of ”The Parchment” nor the jazzy guitars of the “Hell On Earth” intro or the beautiful guitar tone of “Dance Of Death”.
Other than that, I found this boring, not what Steve writes.
It neither has the interesting harmonic major scale or raw bass of ”The Parchment” nor the jazzy guitars of the “Hell On Earth” intro or the beautiful guitar tone of “Dance Of Death”.
Randalf
Ancient Mariner
Yep, but it's rather reassuring that while it's easy to break down the elements of a typical Maiden track and parody and dublicate the basic Steve Harris tropes, it takes the master himself to actually be able to find, reach and capture the Maiden magic.
Diesel 11
As you scream into the web of silence...
Finally listened to “The Yeoman” and I actually liked it. It’s silly but there’s a lot of interesting Maiden Easter eggs in there and I am always a sucker for a cinematic epic with the Steve Harris chord progression. All it needs is some retouching and the Maiden members playing on it (Bruce is the most sorely missing here) and I will happily accept it as canon lol.
(I do think it could’ve stopped after the first quiet comedown post solos but I still had fun.)
(I do think it could’ve stopped after the first quiet comedown post solos but I still had fun.)
harrisdevot
Priest of the Holy Wristband
Come on, that was 24 years ago! How can you rely on such an old example to make a judgment? He has certainly written some mediocre/average or even bad songs, but he has penned so many masterpieces.
The_7th_one
Ancient Mariner
Maybe it was edited by Harris/Newton co.
Seriously I have no idea.
Randalf
Ancient Mariner
Well I wasn't making much of a judgement...
Just underlining how defining Steve's decisions and mindset is for Maiden, for better and - sometimes - worse; but given everything we've got, I'd say it's a good bargain anyway.
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You can clearly see the video is not edited they just decided to not play the bass/drum solo. Only time i heard they do that.
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
Agreed. When you write many songs you are more likely to come up with some stinkers too.
That being said, Steve’s songwriting has become more formulaic, which is a shame as you can easily imagine how the songs he has written are going to turn out before listening to them and that was not the case in the past. These days I find myself enjoying the songs he co-writes with others more than the ones he pens himself.
Either way, even with his evident flaws, he is a great songwriter.
The_7th_one
Ancient Mariner
HIDDEN GEM
srfc
Ancient Mariner
The audio is edited, probably by the TV station to make the duration of the music clip fit the segment.
Look at the drums, he's playing the fills from the midsection of the song, you can see him hitting the toms, but the audio has the straight beat of the verse.