Iced Earth

Look out for the debut album of Frosted Earth, feature Stu, Luke, Brent, Jake, and featuring FruityLoops Studio on Rhythm Guitar. The album will be titled "The Glorious Burden of Proof" and features a new mascot in Trump Abominae.
 
To Diesel’s question, this sort of thing has happened before. When the frontman for As I Lay Dying was charged with hiring a hitman, the rest of the band formed their own band with a different name (that is until the vocalist was out of prison and AILD came back). Queensryche also did something similar before Tate left the band.
Jon definitely owns the name, but there’s nothing stopping the rest of the band from doing something else.
 
I feel like Jake Dreyer probably has enough to focus on with Witherfall (who are still relatively "up and coming") and that Stu Block would most likely be better off seeking a new job for a different band. Maybe Pyramaze? That'd be funny.
 
Diesel 11 said:
Well, everything is definitely caving in for Iced Earth. They have now been removed from their record label, along with Demons & Wizards. RIP Hansi.

loudwire.com

Iced Earth, Demons & Wizards Removed From Century Media Online Roster

Jon Schaffer's bands can no longer be found following his participation in the Capitol riot.
loudwire.com loudwire.com
Click to expand...
I wrote Century Media and demanded they drop the band unless Schaffer takes his lumps and walks back his treason. I'm sure others did as well.
 
Imagine spending 30+ years cultivating an audience of fans based on your talent and passion, only to spend your life savings on bail money, to find out you've been dropped by your label and turned off at least half your audience...

...what a fucking shitbag.
 
Maybe I'm a bit against the grain here, but I can't really be bothered that much by him turning off his fans. He turned me off a while ago, so that probably may have to do with it. I was more shocked by the action itself and his rethoric of the last years angered me. Now that shock factor has decreases. He is arrested.

So at this moment, I do not feel the need to keep calling him all kinds of things weeks after all this happened.

I can't really jump from joy (or stay angry) now that his band is thrown of the label. It is a sad matter, especially if you love the band in most recent years.
 
Forostar said:
Maybe I'm a bit against the grain here, but I can't really be bothered that much by him turning off his fans. He turned me off a while ago, so that probably may have to do with it. I was more shocked by the action itself and his rethoric of the last years angered me. Now that shock factor has decreases. He is arrested.

So at this moment, I do not feel the need to keep calling him all kinds of things weeks after all this happened.

I can't really jump from joy (or stay angry) now that his band is thrown of the label. It is a sad matter, especially if you love the band in most recent years.
Click to expand...
This makes sense. If you’re already not into him, this wouldn’t phase you much. If you love Iced Earth and don’t follow the politics leanings of its members, then I could see folks being upset with that.
 
Totally understand Iced Earth fans, if Steve or Bruce stormed into the House of Commons and ended up turfed in jail leaving Maiden looking like no longer existing, I'd be devastated, whatever about the morality of the situation just being left with the practicality of your favourite band coming to an end.
 
srfc said:
Totally understand Iced Earth fans, if Steve or Bruce stormed into the House of Commons and ended up turfed in jail leaving Maiden looking like no longer existing, I'd be devastated, whatever about the morality of the situation just being left with the practicality of your favourite band coming to an end.
Click to expand...


Schaffer has been lying, openly, it smeared his (active) career for people who cared about that. Then he stormed the Capitol.

Bruce or Steve or whoever in Maiden have not been behaving like Schaffer (for the last 10+ years). If they had I would not be that much into Maiden anymore, nor would I be that devastated if something like this would happen.

People who do not care that Trump lies in enormous quantity are also more disappointed that he lost than others who do care.
 
Last edited:
Yes this did not happen just yesterday. These people are lunatics, Schaffer is a nutcase and this is just the time where he showed his true self.

If you have bussiness to attend to, especially a business that's about people, you can't do this public political extremism thing. It isn't just about the media backlash but a part of your own clientèle will shut you off because they're on the other side of the spectrum and you're waging war against them. Schaffer probably thought that mostly likeminded people are listening to IE because he puts shit opinions in, so if they listen they support, right? Wrong. Someone like Dave Mustaine knows that people are looking for Megadeth for riffs and solos and not political commentary.

On the other hand Iron Maiden is a band with such a character that people appreciate it without liking the music - I've heard tons of opinions that Maiden rules although the person in question does not like or listen to metal or Maiden at all - but they've seen the effect of the band on someone else, possibly went to a show because it's biggest in town, and were left impressed. And this band persona is the sum of all the members really.

However the thought crossed my mind, several times, what if it has been fake? What if they are assholes, just so powerful in bussiness that no-one dared to badmouth them with truth? What if the media people hated newer albums just scored them highly because Rod coerced them? What if Dave Murray owns a lithium extraction sweatshop in Hawaii?

Extremely unlikely but even the thought of it happening is not nice.
 
Zare said:
However the thought crossed my mind, several times, what if it has been fake? What if they are assholes, just so powerful in bussiness that no-one dared to badmouth them with truth? What if the media people hated newer albums just scored them highly because Rod coerced them? What if Dave Murray owns a lithium extraction sweatshop in Hawaii?
Click to expand...

I think we'd know this by now. Maiden fans can be very obsessive. Remember how somebody once misread a press statement on Bruce's cargo blimp and thought he was building military drones and this board's hive mind set that straight? Or how people were snooping around in Clive Burr's private life to figure out when his father died so they could know when he was kicked from the band? Shady business practices like the ones you're suggesting tend leave a trail, and somebody would have picked up on them.
 
Agreed, hence why I said it is extremely unlikely. The band belongs to Steve Harris, band's second frontman yet a man highly inconspicuous off-stage, famous for dedication to his instrument and music, football being in the 2nd spot. "A super nice person" as described by Hetfield.
 
I have my ideas about this, but this is not the Iron Maiden thread, so I'll leave them for some other time.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top