I'm talking about studio recordings. Listen to solos such as brave new world, rainmaker. The final frontier, from here to eternity, run to the hills, fear of the dark, powerslave. No way are those solos improvised, they have clear structure and he went in knowing what he was going to play. Some of the solos on this album sound at least partially improvised
Any time you ever talk about guitar playing, tone etc --you talk sense. It's so obvious you're a guitarist (& a really good one, judging by your post of your own playing a few weeks back); your understanding & appreciation of technique (& your willingness to explain it to others) shows this. Always pleasing to read your guitar/guitarist posts, Maturin!I guess the majority if not all he has ever done has been improvisation, so his approach to soloing hasn't changed - but his tone has, as already noted. The tone he had on Brave New World and Dance of Death and even on The Final Frontier (title track especially) does have more authority, being more up front and smoother due to more gain and effects.
George Lynch use to call himself tone-dependent, and by that meaning that his playing is very affected by the tone he gets, and I guess that would apply to Dave to. There's no way he could do those smooth legato runs like the "Brave New World"-solo with this tone. It would sound much, much weaker. He sounds more like he did on "The Trooper" or other tracks from that time.
But this is common among musicians, as they evolve and get older they often start to appreciate subtlety more - and if there's something Dave lost with that more modern high gain tone with lots of ambience effects, it's subtlety. I just wish he would find a middle way, and use both types of tones.
Brilliant analysis of Adrian's early playing. Agree fully. Less obvious blues-licks, more interesting structure. He definitely has improved by trying to break out of the box. Dave or Janick never were in the box in the first place, so they didn't have that problem... By which I mean, their soloing has always had more of a free-form, floating, spur-of-the-moment-feel than Adrian's.
Yes, but when there are three of them, it would sort of mean that one was more up front in the mix than the other two, all of the time. Switching around, we have three guitarists who share about equal time in the spotlight.
My favourite album for guitar solos is Dance of Death by the way. I think all three of them were at the top of their game on that record.
Exactly. As I said, you take the time.Improvisation does not mean 'string of absolutely random notes the musician has no control of but which sounds good by divine intervention channeled through years of medidation and contact with his spiritual self'. Of course he goes in there and knows what he is going to play. But it is more like 'I begin with a bend up to the root, I have this melody here, and this lick there, and I'll end it with this lick and bend up towards the fifth and it'll sound nice' as opposed to having every single note down before he plays it.
What "sweeped ending lick" are you referring to, Maturin?Most of the licks he plays in these solos are licks he has played thousands of times before. "Fear of the Dark" and "Rainmaker" are two of my favourites of his, and they sound very improvised. He has never played them note for note live as far as I know, but he makes approximations of them which sometimes sound damn close, and other times not. I haven't heard him use the sweeped ending lick of first live in the last 15 years at least.
Any time you ever talk about guitar playing, tone etc --you talk sense. It's so obvious you're a guitarist (& a really good one, judging by your post of your own playing a few weeks back); your understanding & appreciation of technique (& your willingness to explain it to others) shows this. Always pleasing to read your guitar/guitarist posts, Maturin!
What "sweeped ending lick" are you referring to, Maturin?
I know what sweep picking is, Maturin! (--& who that crazy Swedish guy is! )Great to hear the posts are appreciated. I do them for myself as much as for anyone who cares to discuss - you always learn and gain insights by putting things into words.
A sweep is a technique where you play a chord-shape by plucking the notes in rapid succession without having more than one note sound at a time. In Dave's FOTD-solo on the studio version, there is a small three-string sweep at the end, the very last thing he do - first he sweeps upwards from what I think is F# (4th octave) to the F# an octave above (in what really is an F#m-chord), then he descends that sweep lick, and then up again where he ends his solo by applying a rather wide vibrato on the F# note.
So for those who say Dave hasn't experimented with new techniques since 1979... He did it once, at least.
Edit: For illustration, here's a crazy Swedish dude demonstrating a sweep:
Yeah, but I'll get feeling that Dave was little bit off on this whole album.
You know, I keep open the possibility that this little part is done by Janick. And that Adrian takes over right after him. It almost doesn't make much sense to do such a short little thing, in between the longer Dave and Adrian solos, but it is possible and it sounds like Janick! Let's see what happens if they play it live!This one is growing on me. Every time I hear it, I like it a little bit more. It's still not one of my favorites, but a fun little song. A nice breather in between denser songs. Bruce gives a great performance too, one of his best on the album.
Plus the Adrian Smith slide guitar solo is pretty cool and unique!