I do. Boo all you Virus and Judas haters, I say boo.
Dave Murray Survivor 2013: Results -> Still Life wins!
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Ariana
Black-and-white leopard
I don't think I can explain personal preferences.
There are songs that I can relate to better than others, there are melodies that I like better than others. I love Look for the Truth, for example, a song that not many people appreciate and I know that if it was here, it would have gone out in the very first rounds. But that's ok, if other people don't like it, this fact can't lower my appreciation of it.
There are songs that I can relate to better than others, there are melodies that I like better than others. I love Look for the Truth, for example, a song that not many people appreciate and I know that if it was here, it would have gone out in the very first rounds. But that's ok, if other people don't like it, this fact can't lower my appreciation of it.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Thanks Ariana.
That's good. It's just that this time, the collective dislike for this whole decade, without an ounce of explanation makes me wonder. The same happened in several "recent" Maiden survivors. Like it's a given that the nineties were worse and that's that.
To be honest, I did wonder if all this might have to do with a preference for the current line-up, and the classic era (band members), rather than that it has to do with focusing on individual songs.
Sorry that that thought crossed my mind, I guess it happened because I didn't hear substantial explanations which have to do with the songs.
At the same time, I should realize that not everybody can explain why they like or dislike certain music.
And in the last years, the people who don't explain are the ones who dislike the nineties. 1+1=2(?)
That's good. It's just that this time, the collective dislike for this whole decade, without an ounce of explanation makes me wonder. The same happened in several "recent" Maiden survivors. Like it's a given that the nineties were worse and that's that.
To be honest, I did wonder if all this might have to do with a preference for the current line-up, and the classic era (band members), rather than that it has to do with focusing on individual songs.
Sorry that that thought crossed my mind, I guess it happened because I didn't hear substantial explanations which have to do with the songs.
At the same time, I should realize that not everybody can explain why they like or dislike certain music.
And in the last years, the people who don't explain are the ones who dislike the nineties. 1+1=2(?)
SixesAlltheway
Ancient Mariner
I think Ariana said it really well already. I certainly don't hate any of the songs up there and I'm not voting against or for based on era or band members. Not voting for a song because it is a 90s song or because Blaze sings on it, is just as daft as voting against it because it wasn't recorded in the 80s with Bruce 
Anyways. I like Rainmaker. It is actually among my favorites from that album, possibly top three but maybe that doesn't say much because Dance of Death is one of my least favorite albums. Bottom 3 perhaps. Looked at in the context of the album then it successfully manages to be a really concise and solid track that adds some much needed dynamics to the album. On its own, when I just play the song not in the context of the album, then well, its still good but I also realize that its not really that special or fantastic or anything. The chorus in particular starts becoming really repetitive, "you tell me we can stop the rain, you tell me that we all can change, you tell me ...." ad nauseam. I don't really find that chorus that enjoyable a listen. But well, it is what it is but still a better track than the opener.
The Thin Line is just more interesting to me in pretty much all facets. More interesting arrangements, much more depth and scope in the lyrics, some really stellar performances. Bruce owns this tracks. Great guitar licks and solos. Rainmaker has one really memorable riff and is a good short rocker but that's it for me really.
Anyways. I like Rainmaker. It is actually among my favorites from that album, possibly top three but maybe that doesn't say much because Dance of Death is one of my least favorite albums. Bottom 3 perhaps. Looked at in the context of the album then it successfully manages to be a really concise and solid track that adds some much needed dynamics to the album. On its own, when I just play the song not in the context of the album, then well, its still good but I also realize that its not really that special or fantastic or anything. The chorus in particular starts becoming really repetitive, "you tell me we can stop the rain, you tell me that we all can change, you tell me ...." ad nauseam. I don't really find that chorus that enjoyable a listen. But well, it is what it is but still a better track than the opener.
The Thin Line is just more interesting to me in pretty much all facets. More interesting arrangements, much more depth and scope in the lyrics, some really stellar performances. Bruce owns this tracks. Great guitar licks and solos. Rainmaker has one really memorable riff and is a good short rocker but that's it for me really.
Moon Child
Ancient Mariner
I have to say that I agree with Ariana and Sixes on this one. I'll be honest, I'm not as fond of 90's era Maiden as I am of the other eras and this is with both Bruce and Blaze as singers but I don't hate the era or its songs. The songs just don't strike a cord with me the way the songs from the 80's do or even the 00's. I can't explain exactly why but i can definitely say it has nothing to do with the line up. I'm not just picking the songs because "Oh, it's not the classic line up so these songs have to go!" I just legitimately don't like them as much. And the rules of the survivors do state to pick your least favorites and I'm doing just that. 
That being said, I may not like the 90's era so much but I do appreciate it as apart of Maiden's history. Without it, who knows where they would be today if still together at all.
That being said, I may not like the 90's era so much but I do appreciate it as apart of Maiden's history. Without it, who knows where they would be today if still together at all. 
It says it right up there at the top, vote for your least favourite out of the songs still in the survivor. So simply by voting, nobody is saying anything is inferior to anything else, or even necessarily saying they dislike the song they vote for, they're only saying what they enjoy the least. I like Judas, but I like it less than some of the others.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
That sounds contradictory.
How can songs be equal for you (so not inferior to others), when you enjoy certain songs less than others?
Personal taste and preference as opposed to a judgement of how well or how poorly written/performed a song is. There are entire musical genres I don't enjoy, but I don't think all that music is poorly written or performed.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
There goes the one but last Blaze-era song, plus Judas Be My Guide.
Six songs left from the current line-up. Six songs left from previous line-ups (in total).
13. Judas Be My Guide
14. Lightning Strikes Twice
15. Fates Warning (Murray, Harris)
16. Twilight Zone (Murray, Harris)
17. When Two Worlds Collide (Murray, Bayley, Harris)
18. Age of Innocence (Murray, Harris)
19. Justice of the Peace (Murray, Harris)
20. Charlotte the Harlot (Murray)
21. Sanctuary (Harris, Di'Anno, Murray)
22. Rhythm of the Beast (Murray, McBrain)
23. Chains of Misery (Dickinson, Murray)
24. Sheriff of Huddersfield (Iron Maiden)
25. Nodding Donkey Blues (Dickinson, Harris, Murray, McBrain, Gers)
26. Pass the Jam (Dickinson, Gers, Harris, McBrain, Murray, Smith)
27. More Tea Vicar (Dickinson, Gers, Harris, McBrain, Murray, Smith)
Info/rules here:
http://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/dave-murray-survivor-2013-round-1.26006/
Six songs left from the current line-up. Six songs left from previous line-ups (in total).
13. Judas Be My Guide
14. Lightning Strikes Twice
15. Fates Warning (Murray, Harris)
16. Twilight Zone (Murray, Harris)
17. When Two Worlds Collide (Murray, Bayley, Harris)
18. Age of Innocence (Murray, Harris)
19. Justice of the Peace (Murray, Harris)
20. Charlotte the Harlot (Murray)
21. Sanctuary (Harris, Di'Anno, Murray)
22. Rhythm of the Beast (Murray, McBrain)
23. Chains of Misery (Dickinson, Murray)
24. Sheriff of Huddersfield (Iron Maiden)
25. Nodding Donkey Blues (Dickinson, Harris, Murray, McBrain, Gers)
26. Pass the Jam (Dickinson, Gers, Harris, McBrain, Murray, Smith)
27. More Tea Vicar (Dickinson, Gers, Harris, McBrain, Murray, Smith)
Info/rules here:
http://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/dave-murray-survivor-2013-round-1.26006/
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Once again:
The Prophecy
The Nomad
The Nomad has insanely masterful Bruce vocals. The riffs and rhythms are majestic and I love the eastern flavor. This song has everything in it to be one of the best of the album. BUT:
So still a good song but it has an irremovable stain that I am not going to ignore.
The Thin Line Between Love and Hate
Out of Maiden's 15 studio albums this closer belongs to the 4 least good album closers they did (together with the Di'Anno-era closers and Journeyman).
This song has a remarkable cool chorus (where Bruce goes high with superb control), and a few nice riffs. However, in total, the song feels too lengthy because in the second half some parts are dragging and monotone.
I particularly do not like the slow parts. And there are too many Dave solos, there could be more variation if all the guys had a chance to show their stuff. But the main problem for me is that a big part of the song feels like it's in the same vein. I miss some changes in atmosphere, and I miss surprises, which are necessary to make a long song epic. Instead it's rather a predictable sounding effort. The beforementioned awesome chorus drags it up to a high 6, but the rest of the song fails to reach the same level. The Unbeliever is a song with a comparable chorus, with a way better instrumental part, with more interesting couplets (maybe more awkward or difficult couplets, but certainly less simple), with a less predictable build-up and with a superior atmosphere.
The Man Who Would Be King
The Prophecy
The Nomad
The Nomad has insanely masterful Bruce vocals. The riffs and rhythms are majestic and I love the eastern flavor. This song has everything in it to be one of the best of the album. BUT:
*Agrees 100% with the above*
So still a good song but it has an irremovable stain that I am not going to ignore.
The Thin Line Between Love and Hate
Out of Maiden's 15 studio albums this closer belongs to the 4 least good album closers they did (together with the Di'Anno-era closers and Journeyman).
This song has a remarkable cool chorus (where Bruce goes high with superb control), and a few nice riffs. However, in total, the song feels too lengthy because in the second half some parts are dragging and monotone.
I particularly do not like the slow parts. And there are too many Dave solos, there could be more variation if all the guys had a chance to show their stuff. But the main problem for me is that a big part of the song feels like it's in the same vein. I miss some changes in atmosphere, and I miss surprises, which are necessary to make a long song epic. Instead it's rather a predictable sounding effort. The beforementioned awesome chorus drags it up to a high 6, but the rest of the song fails to reach the same level. The Unbeliever is a song with a comparable chorus, with a way better instrumental part, with more interesting couplets (maybe more awkward or difficult couplets, but certainly less simple), with a less predictable build-up and with a superior atmosphere.
The Man Who Would Be King
Unknown One
I see the ghost of navigators.
Total Eclipse, Public Enema, Thin Line, Ben Breeg, Would Be King
