Bruce Dickinson

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For his first couple of albums the best or most interesting songs are found in the bonus tracks or B sides in my opinion. Yeah, Tears is the exception, but stuff like Darkness Be My Friend, Fire Child, the two No Way Outs, hell even weird experimental stuff like Tibet or dumb fun stuff like Cadillac Gas Mask; I prefer those to anything on TM and BTP (again, with the exception of Tears, though even there I prefer the First Bit, Long Bit, Last Bit version to the album version).
The only song i remember that is a bside and its good is ghost of cain.
 
I don’t mind the Mandrake Project. I don’t think there are any terrible songs on the album. My only frustration is you can hear that Bruce used different vocal takes from over the course of 25 years. It is really obvious which takes were done pre and post cancer (just listen for the lisp in the new verse of Eternity). I wish he would have just re-recorded all the vocals. That would have given the album a more consistent sound and feel.
Fair enough, but no bad tracks? My opinion of Face in the Mirror is that it's the most insipid, bland, boring, lacklustre unmemorable "song" that he's ever recorded. It sounds like something Ozzy would have done with Kelly. After he was dead. (Which reminds me, one week sober! Well done John!)

Any of the B side songs like Acoustic Song are way better.
 
I don’t mind the Mandrake Project. I don’t think there are any terrible songs on the album. My only frustration is you can hear that Bruce used different vocal takes from over the course of 25 years.
I also think TMP doesn't have bad songs, weaker, yes. ^The new album might have another such song, the leftover from TCW sessions that Bruce and Roy found last year - that could have been added to TMP. It's probably co-written with Roy, so let's see if it shows up. What about Nightmares, I'm still curious. The thing is, we don't know if the current 18 demos are newly written material or not. Maybe they are new since his relationship with Roy is no more - and his said ''we did the demos''... which would be too bad for TCW and Nightmares songs. We know they have a lot of leftover material from the last 2 albums and that they wrote new ideas in 2024 (1 hour worth of music), Bruce has no problem losing them?
I feel that album hasnt been worked like CW or AOB and maybe like TOS too and they were in different places.
Definitely not. It was not a concentrated process.
Damn, Face In The Mirror is one of my favorites on that album lol
Face In The Mirror, as far as a purley acoustic song goes, is great and memorable which is important.
(again, with the exception of Tears, though even there I prefer the First Bit, Long Bit, Last Bit version to the album version).
I like some ideas in First Bit, Long Bit, Last Bit of Tears (the backing vocals), but the acoustic parts are essential to the song and it's too ''electronic'' for me. The changes were for the best. The current live version of the song is inspired by that version. Bruce's solo is full of interesting and good bonus stuff, every album.
 
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I also think TMP doesn't have bad songs, weaker, yes. ^The new album might have another such song, the leftover from TCW sessions that Bruce and Roy found last year - that could have been added to TMP. It's probably co-written with Roy, so let's see if it shows up. What about Nightmares, I'm still curious. The thing is, we don't know if the current 18 demos are newly written material or not.

Definitely not. It was not a concentrated process.

Face In The Mirror, as far as a purley acoustic song goes, is great and memorable which is important.

I like some ideas in First Bit, Long Bit, Last Bit of Tears (the backing vocals), but the acoustic parts are essential to the song and it's too ''electronic'' for me. The changes were for the best. The current live version of the song is inspired by that version. Bruce's solo is full of interesting and good bonus stuff, every album.
I think bruce said the 18 songs are new.
 
For his first couple of albums the best or most interesting songs are found in the bonus tracks or B sides in my opinion. Yeah, Tears is the exception, but stuff like Darkness Be My Friend, Fire Child, the two No Way Outs, hell even weird experimental stuff like Tibet or dumb fun stuff like Cadillac Gas Mask; I prefer those to anything on TM and BTP (again, with the exception of Tears, though even there I prefer the First Bit, Long Bit, Last Bit version to the album version).
I agree with this, add Breeding House in there too. The No Way Outs are fabulous songs, especially the 2nd one ‘continued …’

Feels like he overthought BTP, recorded too many versions, ended up with a much weaker album than he should have. Scuttled his post Maiden solo career in commercial terms right from the start.

Interesting gossip, Joe Elliot once said exactly this in a Kerrang! Interview in 1996: Elliot said that if he ever went solo, ‘I’d do a hell of a better job of it than Bruce Dickinson!’. Bruce was not impressed when asked about that comment later on.
 

Confirmed: the 18 demos are new and co-written with his band! Recording ''live in the studio'' like Maiden? Now I'm even more worried about the production lol.

''This band has written, with me, 18 songs and demoed them in April with me, and in January we are gonna go into the studio and record a live, with a real band, album, which we've all written together.''

So we can say goodbye to all the leftovers (which are quite a lot, according to both of them) from TMP sessions, TOS sessions, Nightmares, that TCW song, basically the songs he co-wrote with Roy over the years. I admit - I'll always want to hear that stuff. All of them. But I guess Bruce needs something fresh now.

Also - he will play 2 Maiden songs, either just for the big Brazil show or during the tour. One of them is Revelations, the other is kept as a surprise. Bring Your Daughter?

More from the interview:
I mean, if you look back, my modus operandi on the solo stuff that I've done, there's a lot of records that are never the same twice. It's not like, "Okay, yeah, that's that kind of style and they just do that and that's a slightly better version of that and that's a more modern version of that.

Brendan Duffey is just a magician when it comes to mixing.

No, we were either ahead of the curve or just in a different universe. And I think some people found, when the record came out — some people, not everybody — but I think some people found it difficult to listen to because I'd just left Maiden. And Maiden is ... for the people who are really, really, really, hardcore fans, it's such a tribal thing, you know? So I think they were struggling to go, "Even if I enjoy this, I can't, I shouldn't be allowed to enjoy this."
My intention was to make quite a dark record. "Cyclops" is quite a dark track, but with places of groove and stuff like that. Because I loved Faith No More, they're awesome. So there's a bit of Faith No More grooves in there. There's a bit of the darker side of Peter Gabriel stuck in there.

Actually, I use it as a device. They said, "Why don't you try rapping?" I said, "Oh, come on, me? Are you kidding me?" So anyway, I listen to it now and think, "Shit, man, that's pretty cool.

Oh yeah, you have to. Let's face it, you've got to be realistic about the world. But my view was that it was better to try and create something that was really new and different and just keep plowing that furrow and the universe would pretty quickly tell you, "Hey, you're in the wrong job, buddy."
And I'm stubborn as well, so I just keep on doing it. Even people say, "Hey, it's not working." I say, "Well, let's just give it some time, shall we? Let's see." And, you know, obviously after Balls to Picasso came Skunkworks, which was a completely different universe.

So I'm going, "Okay let's try places that are like 1,500 to 3,000-seaters, wherever is appropriate. Let's just see what the heck happens.
It's a real band. It's a rock 'n' roll band.

We do change the set around sometimes as well — well, quite often, actually, because it's that kind of a band, that we can sort of go, "Hey, what should we do tonight? Let's drop this one in." So the core songs will probably stay the same, but we'll jump around a little bit.

And I'm gonna break with my tradition, basically because it's fun and I'm gonna do one Maiden song. And it'll be one of mine, so there'll be no argument about, "Oh, it's not supposed to be played like that." Well, I wrote the damn thing, so I'll tell you how it's gonna be played.
So for Brazil, I'm boning up on "Revelations." It's not a song we're doing on this tour with Maiden. And one other, which I will leave to your imagination. You'll have to guess.
 
I agree with this, add Breeding House in there too. The No Way Outs are fabulous songs, especially the 2nd one ‘continued …’
Feels like he overthought BTP, recorded too many versions, ended up with a much weaker album than he should have. Scuttled his post Maiden solo career in commercial terms right from the start.
Yeah, just change 2 songs and Clowns (originally not supposed to be on the album) and it will be much stronger.
Interesting gossip, Joe Elliot once said exactly this in a Kerrang! Interview in 1996: Elliot said that if he ever went solo, ‘I’d do a hell of a better job of it than Bruce Dickinson!’. Bruce was not impressed when asked about that comment later on.
Well, an artist to release a different style solo album from their main metal band when they leave is normal. And Bruce wanted something different, that was the whole point. He just should have putted 2 or 3 pure metal songs like Breeding House to fill that. We could say that the two experimental albums led to his great return in metal, so the journey was important for his solo stuff as well. This allows freedom in his songwriting that he has always wanted.
 

Confirmed: the 18 demos are new and co-written with his band! Recording ''live in the studio'' like Maiden? Now I'm even more worried about the production lol.

''This band has written, with me, 18 songs and demoed them in April with me, and in January we are gonna go into the studio and record a live, with a real band, album, which we've all written together.''

So we can say goodbye to all the leftovers (which are quite a lot, according to both of them) from TMP sessions, TOS sessions, Nightmares, that TCW song, basically the songs he co-wrote with Roy over the years. I admit - I'll always want to hear that stuff. All of them. But I guess Bruce needs something fresh now.

Also - he will play 2 Maiden songs, either just for the big Brazil show or during the tour. One of them is Revelations, the other is kept as a surprise. Bring Your Daughter?

More from the interview:
I mean, if you look back, my modus operandi on the solo stuff that I've done, there's a lot of records that are never the same twice. It's not like, "Okay, yeah, that's that kind of style and they just do that and that's a slightly better version of that and that's a more modern version of that.

Brendan Duffey is just a magician when it comes to mixing.

No, we were either ahead of the curve or just in a different universe. And I think some people found, when the record came out — some people, not everybody — but I think some people found it difficult to listen to because I'd just left Maiden. And Maiden is ... for the people who are really, really, really, hardcore fans, it's such a tribal thing, you know? So I think they were struggling to go, "Even if I enjoy this, I can't, I shouldn't be allowed to enjoy this."
My intention was to make quite a dark record. "Cyclops" is quite a dark track, but with places of groove and stuff like that. Because I loved Faith No More, they're awesome. So there's a bit of Faith No More grooves in there. There's a bit of the darker side of Peter Gabriel stuck in there.

Actually, I use it as a device. They said, "Why don't you try rapping?" I said, "Oh, come on, me? Are you kidding me?" So anyway, I listen to it now and think, "Shit, man, that's pretty cool.

Oh yeah, you have to. Let's face it, you've got to be realistic about the world. But my view was that it was better to try and create something that was really new and different and just keep plowing that furrow and the universe would pretty quickly tell you, "Hey, you're in the wrong job, buddy."
And I'm stubborn as well, so I just keep on doing it. Even people say, "Hey, it's not working." I say, "Well, let's just give it some time, shall we? Let's see." And, you know, obviously after Balls to Picasso came Skunkworks, which was a completely different universe.

So I'm going, "Okay let's try places that are like 1,500 to 3,000-seaters, wherever is appropriate. Let's just see what the heck happens.
It's a real band. It's a rock 'n' roll band.

We do change the set around sometimes as well — well, quite often, actually, because it's that kind of a band, that we can sort of go, "Hey, what should we do tonight? Let's drop this one in." So the core songs will probably stay the same, but we'll jump around a little bit.

And I'm gonna break with my tradition, basically because it's fun and I'm gonna do one Maiden song. And it'll be one of mine, so there'll be no argument about, "Oh, it's not supposed to be played like that." Well, I wrote the damn thing, so I'll tell you how it's gonna be played.
So for Brazil, I'm boning up on "Revelations." It's not a song we're doing on this tour with Maiden. And one other, which I will leave to your imagination. You'll have to guess.

Bruce's memory is starting to fail. The tour supporting Lynyrd Skynyrd took place in 1997, when he was promoting Accident of Birth!!! :lol:
 
Well, an artist to release a different style solo album from their main metal band when they leave is normal. And Bruce wanted something different, that was the whole point. He just should have putted 2 or 3 pure metal songs like Breeding House to fill that. We could say that the two experimental albums led to his great return in metal, so the journey was important for his solo stuff as well. This allows freedom in his songwriting that he has always wanted.
It all worked out well, giving us the artistic high quality of AOB and CW. And his return to Maiden… we are lucky his solo career commercially tanked.

Going back to 1993-94, that was not his intention. Remember, Bruce was spectacularly dropped by EMI records after BTP.
 
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He already hinted at that just before Run For Your Lives started. Maybe in April.
Yeah. Daughter would be perfect, the song that started it all. You know, more NPFTD songs. I doubt Powerslave, Prisoner, 2 Minutes or Children. Eternity probably not too. I would welcome it and Daughter, more than Revelations. But the latter fits his current material very well, a true classic and it would be cool to have a proper live solo version of them, if he will release all played songs during the tour.
It all worked out well, giving us the artistic high quality of AOB and CW. And his return to Maiden… we are lucky his solo career commercially tanked.
Going back to 1993-94, that was not his intention. Remember, Bruce was spectacularly dropped by EMI records after BTP.
This too, but we have to say that in the charts BTP is his 3rd most successful album after TMP and the debut.
 
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At this point, I’m just hoping we get another chemical wedding or tyranny of souls.
Agreed. TCW in feel and style, songwriting would be really tough and almost impossible. TOS-like is possible with the current band, but let's not forget that Philip and Chris like SW a lot, so...
 

Rehearsals have begun.
 
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