Bruce Dickinson

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Yea I'm not quite sure what the argument is. I will say though that a short break can still be significant. Especially when you go from writing and playing in a massive world touring band that tours and records new music pretty much every year to a small clubbing band with friends and no record label. Even just a year away from music is going to make people rusty.
 
Mosh said:
Yea I'm not quite sure what the argument is. I will say though that a short break can still be significant. Especially when you go from writing and playing in a massive world touring band that tours and records new music pretty much every year to a small clubbing band with friends and no record label. Even just a year away from music is going to make people rusty.
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I beg to differ. Adrian remained creative, but the main difference that he was responsible for writing everything, while with Maiden he wasn't.
 
Why are you trying to argue that Adrian was doing anything of any significance between leaving Maiden and releasing State of Mind in 1995? Writing what exactly? Relative to how "creative" he was in the 80's, contributing to Maiden's output, his '89-'95 output is paltry. And opinion, I think you'll agree (your own opinion of the material aside), is decidely mixed on ASAP & The Untouchables. When you throw in his debatable contribution to Bruce's side-projects (as discussed): all-in his '89-'99 period (an entire decade!) was, musically, a bit of a non-event. Psycho Motel material is decent, but it's bang-slap in British Lion territory.

So, honestly, whether he took a break or not is a total red herring here. Look at how productive Bruce was in a comparable timeframe: five albums released between '90-'98. And in a comparable not-in-Maiden timeframe: four album between '94-'98. Purely from a musical perspective: Bruce was busy; Adrian really wasn't.
 
Obviously it’s all opinions here, but I’ve found Adrian’s solo work to hold up quite well after several listens, similar to Blaze and Bruce’s. It’s not perfect, sure, but it’s far better than Steve’s stuff, which isn’t bad, but hardly enthralling.
 
Solo career:
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CriedWhenBrucieLeft said:
Why are you trying to argue that Adrian was doing anything of any significance between leaving Maiden and releasing State of Mind in 1995? Writing what exactly?
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He apparently recorded an entire album’s worth of material with The Untouchables that’s sitting on a shelf, unreleased. “City Of Dreams” from those sessions was informally released as a video single by his drummer at the time, Bob Richards.

CriedWhenBrucieLeft said:
Look at how productive Bruce was [...] in a comparable not-in-Maiden timeframe: four album between '94-'98. Purely from a musical perspective: Bruce was busy; Adrian really wasn't.
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Not counting AoB/CW, Adrian recorded three albums’ worth of material while he wasn’t in Maiden (1 Untouchables, 2 Psycho Motel), plus he co-wrote two songs with Kai Hansen for Michael Kiske’s Instant Clarity and played a number of guest solos elsewhere. Three albums and change is pretty comparable to Bruce’s four albums. Just because you didn’t like his output, that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t there.

But yes, Adrian took a break from 1990-1992.
 
Jer said:
He apparently recorded an entire album’s worth of material with The Untouchables that’s sitting on a shelf, unreleased.
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I hope this will see the light of day. Maybe after Maiden retires and he can release it + that blues album.
 
CriedWhenBrucieLeft said:
Why are you trying to argue that Adrian was doing anything of any significance between leaving Maiden and releasing State of Mind in 1995? Writing what exactly? Relative to how "creative" he was in the 80's, contributing to Maiden's output, his '89-'95 output is paltry. And opinion, I think you'll agree (your own opinion of the material aside), is decidely mixed on ASAP & The Untouchables. When you throw in his debatable contribution to Bruce's side-projects (as discussed): all-in his '89-'99 period (an entire decade!) was, musically, a bit of a non-event. Psycho Motel material is decent, but it's bang-slap in British Lion territory.

So, honestly, whether he took a break or not is a total red herring here. Look at how productive Bruce was in a comparable timeframe: five albums released between '90-'98. And in a comparable not-in-Maiden timeframe: four album between '94-'98. Purely from a musical perspective: Bruce was busy; Adrian really wasn't.
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Productive is not the same as creative though - you've answered a different question.

This is actually quite difficult to guage because Adrian is never going to be as forthcoming as Bruce, but from what I've managed to glean it seems like Adrian did The Untouchables/Psycho Motel because he had simply got bored and wanted to be doing something again. It was all fairly low profile. Bruce, by comparison, was keen to prove he could succeed without Maiden, and was basically on a charm offensive. In other words, Adrian was doing it because he wanted to, and Bruce because he felt he needed to. I think that this is the main thing behind the difference in their respective outputs. It's not really about either of them being more or less creative than the other.
 
Jer said:
He apparently recorded an entire album’s worth of material with The Untouchables that’s sitting on a shelf, unreleased. “City Of Dreams” from those sessions was informally released as a video single by his drummer at the time, Bob Richards.


Not counting AoB/CW, Adrian recorded three albums’ worth of material while he wasn’t in Maiden (1 Untouchables, 2 Psycho Motel), plus he co-wrote two songs with Kai Hansen for Michael Kiske’s Instant Clarity and played a number of guest solos elsewhere. Three albums and change is pretty comparable to Bruce’s four albums. Just because you didn’t like his output, that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t there.

But yes, Adrian took a break from 1990-1992.
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My thoughts exactly!
 
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