BEST BAND EVER: Results!

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Eliminated after Round 135:
Gene Hoglan
Phil Collins

Promoted after Round 135:
Neil Peart
Dave Lombardo

Mike Portnoy (DREAM THEATER, million-OTHER BANDS)
vs.
Stewart Copeland (THE POLICE)

Bill Bruford (KING CRIMSON, YES)
vs.
Bill Ward (BLACK SABBATH)
 
In case the videos are unavailable:
  • Mike Portnoy - Dream Theater - Metropolis, Part 1
  • Stewart Copeland - The Police - The Other Way Of Stopping
  • Bill Bruford - King Crimson - Red
  • Bill Ward - Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath (Live In Brussels 1970)
 
Mike Portnoy and Bill Bruford.

How is Bruford losing to Ward? Yes, Ward can bash and groove, but can he bash and groove to a flawless crescendo in 13/8? (That's found in Starless by King Crimson - start the song at the 10-minute mark and listen to the next minute.)

 
First match was probably the hardest one in the game so far. One of the best metal drummers ever and one of the best rock drummers ever. Different styles, different music, different eras... I went with Copeland as he was already losing, but could've gone with Portnoy easily.

Bruford gets what he deserves for eliminating two far superior drummers in a row. Ward was way better anyway.
 
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Eliminated after Round 136:
Stewart Copeland
Bill Bruford

Promoted after Round 136:
Mike Portnoy
Bill Ward

Dave Lombardo (SLAYER)
vs.
Neil Peart (RUSH)
 
While both are/were very good in what they have/had done, the scope of playing drums by Lombardo is a large country, let's say the USA and Peart's is almost all continents. Not all, because e.g. he did not have the free flow and feel of a top jazz drummer, and he was of course not a top (power or thrash) metal drummer, the type of drummer that needs a lot of stamina because he plays 90% percent of the time the same pattern in a most intense manner, at high velocity.

Lombardo did things Peart was not able to do (I bet Peart could not play such fast stuff, so tight, it is an entirely different discipline).
But I believe Peart did more things Lombardo is not able to do. No offense to the thrash metal genre; but while its style is very difficult, it does not have the need of abilities that are used in Rush. The feel, the different measures, the changes, the type of interaction with the other band members (especially bassist Geddy Lee), the techniques, the patterns, the accents, the whole extra dimension he brought to the music. Very unique imo.
To put it shorter: Rush's music is richer, more original, with much more variation and therefore more difficult. And Peart did that better than anyone else.
 
Forostar said:
While both are/were very good in what they have/had done, the scope of playing drums by Lombardo is a large country, let's say the USA and Peart's is almost all continents. Not all, because e.g. he did not have the free flow and feel of a top jazz drummer, and he was of course not a top (power or thrash) metal drummer, the type of drummer that needs a lot of stamina because he plays 90% percent of the time the same pattern in a most intense manner, at high velocity.

Lombardo did things Peart was not able to do (I bet Peart could not play such fast stuff, so tight, it is an entirely different discipline).
But I believe Peart did more things Lombardo is not able to do. No offense to the thrash metal genre; but while its style is very difficult, it does not have the need of abilities that are used in Rush. The feel, the different measures, the changes, the type of interaction with the other band members (especially bassist Geddy Lee), the techniques, the patterns, the accents, the whole extra dimension he brought to the music. Very unique imo.
To put it shorter: Rush's music is richer, more original, with much more variation and therefore more difficult. And Peart did that better than anyone else.
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The fact that Peart continued to actively evolve and learn in the late years of his career (especially in jazzier and more metallic areas) is what I find most impressive. No doubt Lombardo is amazing, but Peart was a living force behind the kit.

I see it similarly to how Bruce really started training and keeping up his voice in the 2000s, while learning new and different techniques. Like Peart, they both sound better after what many would describe as “their prime” or “the classic era of the band.”
 
I think Lombardo would be able to play like Peart if he wanted to, and Peart (perhaps not in his 60's) would've been able to play like Lombardo if he wanted to. It's not like prog rock and thrash metal are that different. If it was black metal and jazz, then yeah, maybe they wouldn't have been able to play each other's stuff.
 
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