2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil
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Black Wizard
Pleb Hunter
I'm not going to bother reading all the posts about last night because I guess there are loads and loads of them. I will say, however, that Germany play like Brazil are supposed to and Brazil play like Germany used to. The difference is that Germany do Brazil better then Brazil do Germany.
Hup Holland though!
Hup Holland though!
Saapanael
Ancient Mariner
So that guy still exists.
When I saw the result (I was away sadly in a car) I started to laugh. Wow. Go Germany!
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Robben/Messi/Oranje/Argentina-2014 World Cup stats
Goals:
Robben: 3 Messi: 4
Assists:
Robben: 1 Messi: 1
(Robben also "caused" a penalty)
Goal attempts: Robben: 17 Messi: 17
Shots on goal: Robben: 9 Messi: 7
Blocked shots: Robben: 7 Messi: 2
Shot next to (misses) goal: Robben: 1 Messi: 8
Shots at goal:
Oranje: 41 out of 75 goal attempts (55 procent).
Argentina: 33 out of 89 goal attempts (37 procent).
Amount of fouls made on:
Robben: 21 Messi: 14.
(only Chilean attacker Alexis Sánchez had more fouls made on him than on Robben (22))
Won duels:
Robben: won 41 percent of his duels.
Messi: won 40 procent of his duels.
Made dribbles:
Robben: 62 Messi: 72
Henk ten Cate (worked as assistant-trainer of Frank Rijkaard for Barcelona ; this duo let Messi make his debut in the first squad) knows the differences between Robben and Messi:
"Robben is much more a team player than Messi", "Robben also participates in the change from attack to defence and Messi doesn't.
"Also Robben is really part of the Dutch squad and Argentina is totally dependent on Messi. Actually: he is the team."
"Another difference is that dat Messi scores easier than Robben. That's partly because Messi has a free role and can do what he wants. But Robben excels and Messi not yet, although he stil was important in all matches. Argentina plays with a block of 6 men in the back and the other 4 fieldplayers can do what they want up front. That's their strength. "
Goals:
Robben: 3 Messi: 4
Assists:
Robben: 1 Messi: 1
(Robben also "caused" a penalty)
Goal attempts: Robben: 17 Messi: 17
Shots on goal: Robben: 9 Messi: 7
Blocked shots: Robben: 7 Messi: 2
Shot next to (misses) goal: Robben: 1 Messi: 8
Shots at goal:
Oranje: 41 out of 75 goal attempts (55 procent).
Argentina: 33 out of 89 goal attempts (37 procent).
Amount of fouls made on:
Robben: 21 Messi: 14.
(only Chilean attacker Alexis Sánchez had more fouls made on him than on Robben (22))
Won duels:
Robben: won 41 percent of his duels.
Messi: won 40 procent of his duels.
Made dribbles:
Robben: 62 Messi: 72
Henk ten Cate (worked as assistant-trainer of Frank Rijkaard for Barcelona ; this duo let Messi make his debut in the first squad) knows the differences between Robben and Messi:
"Robben is much more a team player than Messi", "Robben also participates in the change from attack to defence and Messi doesn't.
"Also Robben is really part of the Dutch squad and Argentina is totally dependent on Messi. Actually: he is the team."
"Another difference is that dat Messi scores easier than Robben. That's partly because Messi has a free role and can do what he wants. But Robben excels and Messi not yet, although he stil was important in all matches. Argentina plays with a block of 6 men in the back and the other 4 fieldplayers can do what they want up front. That's their strength. "
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
Despite Holland having scored plenty of goals in this tournament, they have had a quite defensive approach to games. Maybe highlighted by the fact that their highest-scoring game was the one where the opponent had the ball more and were expected to have more play. In games against presumably weaker opposition, their approach has often been to pass the ball around and try to tempt the opposition higher up, in order for Holland to take them on the counter.
The interesting twist here is that Argentina have so far appeared to be not very different from that. Defensively, they have been in control for most of the time (except short periods against Iran and Switzerland), but they have seemed to lack creativity up front. A shame, as they have more players than Messi who should be capable of creating something.
We can be facing a game where neither team will be comfortable with being the team who have the ball more, because they fear the counter-attacking capabilities of the opponents. I predict a low-scoring game, going to extra time.
The interesting twist here is that Argentina have so far appeared to be not very different from that. Defensively, they have been in control for most of the time (except short periods against Iran and Switzerland), but they have seemed to lack creativity up front. A shame, as they have more players than Messi who should be capable of creating something.
We can be facing a game where neither team will be comfortable with being the team who have the ball more, because they fear the counter-attacking capabilities of the opponents. I predict a low-scoring game, going to extra time.
Sara
Not even Wensleydale?
Yep, I'm not going to bother reading them either. lol It's funny you should say that, because when Juninho was interviewed after the game over here, he said that the Germans were teaching the Brazilians a lesson in how to play football. It was also amazing when the Brazilian fans started "OLE!ing" when the Germans passed the ball to each other, and many of the Brazil fans actually applauded Schurrle's wonder goal which made it 7-0.
Juninho was right, Germany gave Brazil a footballing lesson last night. Unbelievable result though, I couldn't believe what I was watching! I seriously doubt tonight's game will be anywhere near as one-sided.
Hope the Dutch can put Argentina away!
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Legendary stuff.
But it wasn't the last time. The last time was with a young Messi (18 years) and it was 0-0, a group match.
Black Wizard
Pleb Hunter
