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Diesel 11 said:
Did they include Alexander the Great?
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I can't remember. It was 13 years ago. Probably not though.

I had a google and couldn't find it, but I did find this:

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Black Wizard said:
I don't fully understand the end of your post Zare. What exactly was your sampling statistic?
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I wanted to say I'm pretty much sure what teenagers into metal at the time in my city thought of Maiden on average, because I met enough people and exchanged a few words about favourite bands.
 
SixesAlltheway said:
I think the biggest rally from the metal community came in the build-up to the Brave New World album for sure. The news about Bruce returning in 1999 hit a lot of fans but the Ed Huntour went over the heads of many since it was such a short tour and not that well advertised. When the promotion for the Brave New World album started - "Brand new album from Iron Maiden, feat. the return of Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith"etc even more fans/people started to realize that Maiden had reformed and then the hype really started to build. A lot of the hype also payed off big time with a lot of big promoters booking Maiden for huge festivals on the Brave New World tour purely because it was the "return of Iron Maiden" and they wanted to host that spectacle....They would never have played those big festivals/shows if Blaze had stayed in the band and this was just another tour...And I think on the Brave New World tour was when they started winning back a lot of fans.
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I remember people coming here in 2005 finding out Broose was back! It depends on the individual or the size of the rock someone lived under. 1999 was huge news. One had to be uninterested or ignorant to not be aware of it.

(In my country they played the same venue as in 1998 and 2003)
 
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For all his faults, Blaze could hold those fuckin' notes at the end of Hallowed Be Thy Name. That says something.
 
Zare said:
It took a while for Maiden to rejuvenate its audience.
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Yes, basically the young American audience got to know Iron Maiden from an egg-tossing game organized during an Ozzfest concert in San Bernardino, around 2005... or something like that.
 
fekso said:
The attendence numbers were higher compared to VXIWT but not that much higher. My parents took me to see them in Boston while we visited relatives, it was my second time seeing them. Orpheum Theatre was the venue (Yes, one of the shows Adrian missed), I’ve seen many bands there, I think it takes like 2000-3000 people. To say it a success and that ”The metal community was falling over themselves in the stampede” is not how I remember it that night in Boston. Just compare the attendence between the tours. In the US they still played smaller venues. But BNW, about then it really took off.
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Well your talking from a US perspective. In Europe and the U.K. where I’m from it was a big and immediate success. From playing the Brixton academy in 1998 which is lucky if it holds 4000 max to play consecutive nights at Earl’s Court in 2000 on the brave new world tour then I’d say that’s pretty instant. Earl’s Court is the biggest music venue in the U.K. with a capacity well over 20,000. Obviously you can get bigger attendances at festivals and stadiums but for indoor arenas it’s the pinnacle.
 
Zare said:
What metal community? In 1999 metal community was full of nu and hardcore people who didn't actually care much about Maiden at all. Yes in your circle people rejoiced but that's your circle. Where I went out, dozens of metalheads, in that times, and Maiden wasn't universally acclaimed at all. You had people hooked on Soulfly who didn't care about the old stuff nor about old guys reunion.

It took a while for Maiden to rejuvenate its audience.
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What metal community??

Seriously the metal community never disappeared during the grunge and nu metal 90’s it just went a bit more underground so you had to dig a bit deeper.

Maybe I’m spoiled being the U.K. but the metal scene has always been great here ever since I’ve been into metal around 1991. During the 90’s there was magazines like terroriser and power play that catered for the more extreme metal styles but also covered a lot of trad and power metal. Whilst the biggest publication, metal hammer did focus on the current trends there was still plenty of big news stories concerning death and black metal and maiden featured pretty regularly too.

People often forget that during the 90’s death metal had a massive boom and all the big Florida bands that we take as household names were releasing debut albums. Black metal had a big surge mainly due to the media surrounding the church burnings and murders but still bands like cradle of tilt and emperor etc all started and flourished in the 90’s. Most of these big death and black metal bands are still around now compared to the grunge and nu metal bands who died a death. Saxon were going strong in the 90’s plus power metal really kicked off especially in Germany and other parts of Europe. I could go on but certainly from my point of view the metal scene and community has always been around and never went away
 
Wayne Bond said:
Well your talking from a US perspective. In Europe and the U.K. where I’m from it was a big and immediate success. From playing the Brixton academy in 1998 which is lucky if it holds 4000 max to play consecutive nights at Earl’s Court in 2000 on the brave new world tour then I’d say that’s pretty instant. Ejarl’s Court is the biggest music venue in the U.K. with a capacity well over 20,000. Obviously you can get bigger attendances at festivals and stadiums but for indoor arenas it’s the pinnacle.
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They only played one gig at Earls Court in 2000, didn't they? If I remember correctly, they did also one show there in 2003, and two consecutive gigs for the first time in a venue that big in London in 2006. Anyway, a massive increase in attendance compared to 1998...

On a related note, the capacity at the O2 arena is bigger than that of Earls Court (at least that is what I remember from the boxsores).

EDIT: Yeah, the O2 arena is bigger.

Official boxscores:

Iron Maiden
. Dec. 22-23, 2006 at Earls Court, London, England
. Gross sales of $1,946,110 Ticket prices: $63.85
. Attendance: 30,479 Capacity: 32,682
. Number of shows: 2 Number of sell-out shows: 1
. Promoter: Live Nation-U.K.

Iron Maiden & Shinedown
Venue: London, UK – O2 Arena
Date: May 27th-28th, 2017
Gross Sales: $2,399,119
Attendance/Capacity: 34,427 / 34,427
Ticket Prices: $74.14, $59.31
 
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GhostofCain said:
They only played one gig at Earls Court in 2000, didn't they? If I remember correctly, they did also one show there in 2003, and two consecutive gigs for the first time in a venue that big in London in 2006. Anyway, a massive increase in attendance compared to 1998...

On a related note, the capacity at the O2 arena is bigger than that of Earls Court (at least that is what I remember from the boxsores).

EDIT: Yeah, the O2 arena is bigger.

Official boxscores:

Iron Maiden
. Dec. 22-23, 2006 at Earls Court, London, England
. Gross sales of $1,946,110 Ticket prices: $63.85
. Attendance: 30,479 Capacity: 32,682
. Number of shows: 2 Number of sell-out shows: 1
. Promoter: Live Nation-U.K.

Iron Maiden & Shinedown
Venue: London, UK – O2 Arena
Date: May 27th-28th, 2017
Gross Sales: $2,399,119
Attendance/Capacity: 34,427 / 34,427
Ticket Prices: $74.14, $59.31
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No way are those figures correct. The O2 is never over 30,000 capacity. According to what I’ve just googled both Earl’s Court and the O2 are a maximum 20,000 but that can be stretched I imagine. Just found this article from 2007 where metallica apparantly broke the attendance record with just over 22,000.

https://www.iq-mag.net/2017/10/metallica-smash-o2-attendance-record/#.Wv2FPxbTWaM
 
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