NO PRAYER FOR THE DYING - Your thoughts…

Eli said:
I don't hate the album I just don't like it. Title track is good, and the instrumentals are OK, and that's about it. As an album it does not appeal to me at all. It has nothing to do with my favourite albums like TBOS, DOD, AMOLAD, BNW or Senjutsu. It does not have Bruce, which is another drawback for me. There is no epic like Phantom, Hallowed or Revelations, which came just before or after it. I love the Epic songs more than anything else, and the shortest song in my top ten is longer than 7 minutes (Blood Brothers). I think in this forum, most of you guys think the 80s were IM's best era, but I love the post-reunion era much more than 80s or 90s.
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Yeah killers has tremendous bass work and it's got some really cool moments but I don't care about a lot of the individual songs that much other than the obvious ones
 
For me rhe worst albums DOD and NPFTD at the bottom and then IM and Killers but because bruce is not there. But i preffer blaze albums than DOD or Npftd.. NPFTD is an album made in the 90s with 90s sound 90s lyrics but bruce way of siniging at the structure of the songs are boring or bad ideas. Just a few imstrumental parts are really good.
 
Aiming to slim down the song arrangements is fine, but the song ideas are just so half-cooked that it never gets going into a rhythm.

This part probably makes more sense in my head, but for an album that was recorded in a barn it sure sounds like it.
 
naranja said:
I definitely think the Blaze albums have more standout songs than No Prayer and that's why they've been played more than No Prayer even if it's mainly Sign of the cross and Clansman
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Definitely, but RIR really helped with that.
Eli said:
Same here. At least the title track should have been in the setlist. Great melodies and guitar work from Janick and Dave. It would have sounded fantastic live, with Adrian's guitar added on the stage.
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And a needed more action for Janick.
Ascendingthethrone said:
During the LOTB setlist chat with Nicko on YouTube, he heavily implies he does not like BYDTTS. I can imagine that several other members don’t as well.
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Bruce was also surprised that some fans want to hear it live with his solo band.
Helmuth Von Moltke said:
The recent Steve interview is interesting- first time I’ve read him saying Tattooed Millionaire slightly influences his writing with Bruce’s voice in mind.
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Indeed. Maybe Steve saw that this is Bruce's preferred use of his voice during this period and tried to fit in, which is something normal and nice.
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
Aiming to slim down the song arrangements is fine, but the song ideas are just so half-cooked that it never gets going into a rhythm.
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But we have to say that all songs but 1 are written well and to their best use for the given idea and especially length.
naranja said:
They all blend into each other is my issue.
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Possible, given the structures and style.
srfc said:
Absolutely, Son of a Gun is a potential Maiden classic.
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Btw, Weekend Warriors sounds like Son Of A Gun, imo.
 
Genuinely heartwarming to see Steve defend No Prayer. Maybe he remembers the tracklist from the heart afterall! The usual suspects (or whiners) Smith & Dickinson obvious reason why they don't play it at all. We need the uncompromisimg 'Arry from the late 70s, telling the boys flatly to suck it up and get on with The Assassin, or there's the door! Still not over they skipped any representation last year and this. Scandalous.
 
The album was inevitable. It's tired and lacks any of the imagination of the records that came before. But it's totally understandable given the journey they'd been on for the previous ten years.

I don't even hate the stripped back approach but it's all so weak and anaemic. It lacks killer melodies and good hooks but much could have been salvaged with a heavier production.

It's a shame it's been so neglected but there's just very little there that can stand alongside the other albums.

Having said all that, it's nice to see it get some love in here. Every album is someone's favourite.
 
Blood On The World´s Hand said:
Genuinely heartwarming to see Steve defend No Prayer. Maybe he remembers the tracklist from the heart afterall! The usual suspects (or whiners) Smith & Dickinson obvious reason why they don't play it at all. We need the uncompromisimg 'Arry from the late 70s, telling the boys flatly to suck it up and get on with The Assassin, or there's the door! Still not over they skipped any representation last year and this. Scandalous.
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Yes, play the Assassin or fire Bruce and Adrian. Seems like the sensible thing to do. :D

I was rather surprised they didn't play BMYDTTS. I can't imagine Bruce being unwilling to play that rather successful song of his. I'd rather not hear a single not from any of the other songs though. It's the one Maiden album I like to pretend doesn't exist.
 
I can see why many fans might dislike it, but for me it's a very strong album.

In fact it's the 8th album on my Top 17 list. :) I can put it on any time and have a great time with it.

Just love the overall vibe of it, as a whole album but also the individual songs. I also find the production very enjoyable, I can really dig that raw sound if it's done well. Martin used to do it extremely well. :)

There are some superb Dave solos and some really stellar twin leads, some of their best. Eg. the one on Run Silent, after the solos. It's like we are descending and ascending with a submarine. The whole album is full of great Maiden-esque melodies.

My only complaint is Bruce's raspy vocals in places. That was an incredibly stupid decision on this and Fear. Totally un-Maiden. It's ridiculous because at the same time there are some superb, clean choruses on both 90s raspy-verse-Bruce albums.
 
Clairvoyant Parchment said:
I can see why many fans might dislike it, but for me it's a very strong album.

In fact it's the 8th album on my Top 17 list. :) I can put it on any time and have a great time with it.

Just love the overall vibe of it, as a whole album but also the individual songs. I also find the production very enjoyable, I can really dig that raw sound if it's done well. Martin used to do it extremely well. :)

There are some superb Dave solos and some really stellar twin leads, some of their best. Eg. the one on Run Silent, after the solos. It's like we are descending and ascending with a submarine. The whole album is full of great Maiden-esque melodies.

My only complaint is Bruce's raspy vocals in places. That was an incredibly stupid decision on this and Fear. Totally un-Maiden. It's ridiculous because at the same time there are some superb, clean choruses on both 90s raspy-verse-Bruce albums.
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That is very true,the whole album have great maiden melodies. Thats the only thing i save. But the lyrics,bruce singing and chours are most of the really bad.
Bruce singing was much better in FOD and the melodies were better in FOD.
 
naranja said:
So glad they didn't do the terrible Arry idea of adding crowd noise to a studio album
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Yep. Instead of being one of the more poorly received albums in their discography, it would've become a laughingstock amongst critics and fans. Critics to this day in reviews would still be sticking it was jabs like, "well, the new album isn't their best, but at least they didn't slap on crowds going wild over it to tell listeners how great it is."
 
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