NO PRAYER FOR THE DYING - Your thoughts…

Some good quotes here from Bruce about how Martin Birch had largely retired by the time they did No Prayer. Says the album sounds like shit.


Good quote later on about how he was expecting Janick to bring more to the band but he got conservative working with Maiden.
 
Well, everyone knows that I love this album.

Title song? Great!
Rough production? Metal!
Bad songs like Mother Russia that you can sing while drunk? Why not!
Introduction of mr. Janick Gers? F**** yeah!

In general I love almost all songs from this album, art work is one of my favourite and I liked the tour.

Maybe it is not the best Maiden album out there in general sense but for me it is the most fun one and that beats anything else.
 
I agree with that , i know a lot of people wanted Tailgunner on the current tour but i would have tried to fit the Title track in personally to represent the album.
Same! NPFTD and CSIT are the only title tracks for the first 9 albums that weren't played live this year (CSIT at least had a couple years to itself in 23/24).
 
It flip flops with TXF for my second least favorite album. There are a few good songs though. Hot take: The Assassin could have been a great song with a reworked chorus.
 
A bit apples and oranges, but yes, it's a very nice sounding record, though for a Birch production, lackluster.
Agreed on all points. It's just a bit funny to me that Bruce would call out NPFTD for sounding like shit multiple times over the years, but then we get something like TMP three decades later.

NPFTD's production is a step down from SSOASS, but it sounds so much better than the Blaze albums or arguably the low points of TBOS and Senjutsu.
 
Agreed on all points. It's just a bit funny to me that Bruce would call out NPFTD for sounding like shit multiple times over the years, but then we get something like TMP three decades later.
The guy is three decades older and has played stadiums for the last twenty years. His hearing is shot. He probably thinks it sounds great. These guys lose certain frequencies as they age. EVH’s guitar tone on the last album was absolute dogshit, I’m sure he thought it was perfect.
 
Hot take: The Assassin could have been a great song with a reworked chorus.
Definitely. It works for me, but I understand the dislike of the chorus, like some other 90's songs.
Good quote later on about how he was expecting Janick to bring more to the band but he got conservative working with Maiden.
Hmm, the sound evolved (to say, right) with Janick for the next 2 albums (even 3 or 4 if you will). His playing also influenced the songs, plus he wrote more songs in the 90's (only for the VXI album was odd), for NPFTD too, so I'm not sure what Bruce meant by that.
Kinda funny, I find NPFTD to sound much better than The Mandrake Project. Talking purely about production, not the songs themselves.
Bruce seems to like modern heavy production above all now.
NPFTD is with the cleanest production of the ones I'm going to mention(wow), but I'm not a fan of the rhythm and drums sound, TMP is a bit better in that regard. I like the upfront/powerful sound, the production could have been great if the drum sound and the overall mix were better, it's like a polished demo in a way. I also like the sound of the last two Maiden albums, but TBOS has a muddy production, SJ is clearer, but lacks power that TMP has. NPFTD has power in the mix, but overall is flat sounding. So it's not that easy to say. I also like the rougher sound of TXF more, while VXI's light sonic sound is for me, like a power metal in a way, I like it. Bruce and Steve noted that NPFTD was really a step down with the production and that is true. It's a nice sounding album, but that's it. Btw, I would like to hear NPFTD with TMP production. AOB's production is what NPFTD wanted it to be. Or FOTD. I usually like the rougher sound, especially from the 90's.
 
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