For me, the high points of No Prayer are good enough for inclusion of a (singular!) song. A tour themed around it? Hard pass, and the powers that be running the band know that'd be the reaction as a whole too.It's because No Prayer is, by far, Maiden at its worst. That being said, I wouldn't mind The Tailgunner, and ...Daughter would be cool, I guess.
Almost any No Prayer track being played is a waste.
I don't think there will be many tours after this one. This tour will go till the end of 2026, I guess. Maybe 3 more tours if everyone is healthy. We can only hope. I don't think Acacia, Still Life, Dune, Infinite Dreams, Killers, OTGDY etc will have a better chance to feature. I can live without Daughter, Tailgunner or whatever from NPFTD.^The 80's rare cuts will always have a chance on future tours, while this tour is most likely the only/and because of the theme chance for the early 90's songs. No Prayer has its moments, not quite like some Fear songs, but for sure. Fresh sets are always welcome, so I can't agree with the neglect.
I'm also curious to know how they'll approach the Reunion songs on future tours, even for new album tours.
There is no big deal. It will be one NPFTD song at most anyway. It's just not an important album or period for the band. I think they market this tour as the first 9 albums, because FOTD exists (the song). The drop off in quality between the 7 first albums and NP is massive. I'd take literally any song from the first 7 albums instead of Daughter or Tailgunner.Yea i don't agree with that. If the idea is to commemorate the band's early history by spanning the first 9 albums, it makes sense for each of the 9 albums to be represented in some form of fashion. Most of the songs are under 5 minutes, so I don't see how it's a big deal to include one.
One song from no prayer one from somewhere in time.I don't think there will be many tours after this one. This tour will go till the end of 2026, I guess. Maybe 3 more tours if everyone is healthy. We can only hope. I don't think Acacia, Still Life, Dune, Infinite Dreams, Killers, OTGDY etc will have a better chance to feature. I can live without Daughter, Tailgunner or whatever from NPFTD.
There is no big deal. It will be one NPFTD song at most anyway. It's just not an important album or period for the band. I think they market this tour as the first 9 albums, because FOTD exists (the song). The drop off in quality between the 7 first albums and NP is massive. I'd take literally any song from the first 7 albums instead of Daughter or Tailgunner.
No I think this is correct, and I have been saying since the tour was announced that not only will there likely be no No Prayer songs, but I expect Somewhere in Time to be omitted as well.I think they market this tour as the first 9 albums, because FOTD exists (the song).
IF they play something of SIT will be SIASL or WY or one they didnt played last tour. Or nothing.No I think this is correct, and I have been saying since the tour was announced that not only will there likely be no No Prayer songs, but I expect Somewhere in Time to be omitted as well.
But what Maiden likely will do is different than what they should do, which imo is including each of the 9 albums. Well, frankly the best way to celebrate 50 years would be a setlist that includes every album, not just the first 9.
This is nearly impossible, because they have to play more than 1 song from certain albums (like Hallowed, RTTH and 666) in a celebration tour. So some albums would be skipped anyway. Albums like NPFTD, Virtual XI and possibly some reunion albums would have 0 songs in a tour like this. That's why, I think, they made it more specific.Well, frankly the best way to celebrate 50 years would be a setlist that includes every album, not just the first 9.
Legacy was the perfect career spanning setlist. I think they will do something similar in the years to come, maybe as a final tour or something. I think RFYL will be the tour that some 80s songs will be played for the last time live.Frankly they don’t even need to cover every album, but other bands have done 30th, 40th, even 50th anniversary tours that represent their whole catalogs. Legacy of the Beast would have made a great career spanning 50th anniversary Setlist.
AGreeLegacy was the perfect career spanning setlist. I think they will do something similar in the years to come, maybe as a final tour or something. I think RFYL will be the tour that some 80s songs will be played for the last time live.
Even as the first song in the set? It's tough though. I watched (probably) a recent interview with Bruce (can't find it now) in which he said he couldn't sing Aces High even at 25 years old. It's fine for the others, but so I think he won't want to sing it now.Anything but Aces High from Powerslave for me. Not that I dislike it, but they are just too old to pull it off at this point.
The potential (Eddies, backgrounds) and ideas (TFP tour screens stuff) are already there. I have no doubt.i hope the screens show something good not like ed hunter tour or bruce dickinson recent tour like in resurrection men.
Me too.I'm fully expecting this tour to be Eddie heavy
Interesting idea.I think a Phantom Eddie pretending to play the organ or something is a possibility and it'd be cool.
Eddie from the tour poster? Who is basically 81-82 Eddie. NOTB, why not. They used the debut one in 2005, Powerslave was used, SIT wasn't used for the latest tour... POM Eddie as a reference to the '83 show? What about from the 90's, FOTD Eddie, it would be cool to see its modern version.I don't know what inflatable Eddie will appear. Number of the Beast?
It will be similar to a 90's-era set, but there will be more to it. More epics + classics to make it a ''setlist for the ages''.There has to be more. Reminds me 90s setlist. I really hope not
I would like to see songs that are different, not played recently or at all, so:I'd like to see Powerslave return. Powerslave and Rime. I prefer that to 2mins or Aces high
This. Songs like 2 Minutes, Evil, Wrathchild, Clairvoyant have probably a better chance than Aces, Icarus, Powerslave, Revelations, Children, Wasted, Eagles, 22AA... it's ''too soon'' for some.Aces high, imo, will he skipped. Same as Flight of Icarus. They were highlights of the first legacy tour. They did them as good as possible. Then the 2nd leg of the tour came and we got Aces low as an encore. Flight was still great, but I don't think they can stage it better than that.
Yeah, and that will make this tour a little different setlist-wise. And the No Prayer songs are better live.Yea i don't agree with that. If the idea is to commemorate the band's early history by spanning the first 9 albums, it makes sense for each of the 9 albums to be represented in some form of fashion. Most of the songs are under 5 minutes, so I don't see how it's a big deal to include one.
After the latest tour, nope.I will be very surprised if they go any more imaginative than Bring Your Daughter from that album.
All in all, the 80's songs (including deep cuts) will always have a slightly better chance for tours than the rest of the material, methinks. I would also choose some 80's deep cuts (Land, Still Life, Killers, OTGDY) over some 90's songs (although it depends), but like I said, I want as many different songs as possible and this is the tour to finally note the early 90's era, especially since they omitted the Reunion era (and I doubt they thought about playing a Blaze era song during such a celebration anyway, and after the Legacy tour) and despite the expected classics. The tour poster is early days & early 90's theme.I don't think there will be many tours after this one. This tour will go till the end of 2026, I guess. Maybe 3 more tours if everyone is healthy. We can only hope. I don't think Acacia, Still Life, Dune, Infinite Dreams, Killers, OTGDY etc will have a better chance to feature. I can live without Daughter, Tailgunner or whatever from NPFTD.
For sure, but then some albums will be omitted. With this tour they have a chance to include from all 9 and that's what they should do (even from SIT), otherwise the theme of the tour will be even more boring...But what Maiden likely will do is different than what they should do, which imo is including each of the 9 albums. Well, frankly the best way to celebrate 50 years would be a setlist that includes every album, not just the first 9.
Agreed.Now that I think about it, they must have known for some years now that they will do this kind of tour for the 50th anniversary. Maybe that's why they chose Prisoner and Madness for last tour. It was weird that they skipped the 3 Number of the Beast hits simultaneously. They have never done that before, if I remember correctly.
Yeah. But since it's a 50 years celebration, most of the set is expected to be the classics. If they don't do Part 2 in the future, celebrating such a big anniv without the Reunion era is wrong.But again, massive disclaimer. I understand why Maiden is doing this tour and the logic behind the decision as well as the limitations to how adventurous this setlist will be. I am just thinking out loud about what a 50th anniversary tour should entail.
After what Steve said that they have no plans to retire and after continuting without Nicko?I'm afraid there won't be any future tours.
Which is pretty much true. The song is incredibly challenging due to the register it's sung in and the speed at which the verses need to be delivered.Even as the first song in the set? It's tough though. I watched (probably) a recent interview with Bruce (can't find it now) in which he said he couldn't sing Aces High even at 25 years old. It's fine for the others, but so I think he won't want to sing it now.
murders or be quick or be dead could be the openers. Maybe both are in the setlist. I hopeI think Aces High won't be played for a variety of reasons:
- It was last played in 2022, and in 2018/19 it was the opener. It's way too soon to bring it back as an opener.
- They have other tracks which they can open with, some of them which are well known and not played for decades (Be Quick or Be Dead? Murders?)
- If they will ever do a farewell tour, they will surely open with it, and this is not a farewell tour.
My moneys are on Be Quick or be Dead.
I think such a concept (1 song from each album) could work (songs selection as well) for a special one year run or a 3rd leg of a celebration tour... just saying. But it's not something I think Maiden would do, unfortunately.I mean, again, I am not really talking about anything in the realm of possibility for Maiden here but thinking about what would actually commemorate a 50 year history (which a Setlist that only covers 17 of those 50 years does not). I think you could build a 17 song setlist that is realistic for them to perform and covers one song off each album. It limits what they can play from certain albums for sure, but still ends up being pretty hits oriented.
True about LOTB tour. And they indeed could do it again, but probably not with themes. Some 80's songs played for the last time, I guess so, but let's see.Legacy was the perfect career spanning setlist. I think they will do something similar in the years to come, maybe as a final tour or something. I think RFYL will be the tour that some 80s songs will be played for the last time live.
Well said.they always make a balance. even in the the last tour which have the most challenging stuff: there were classics (trooper, wasted), there were epics (celts, hell), there were deep cuts (caught, stranger, alexander) and there were these concert songs that pump up the tempo or make crowds sing (like can i play, prisoner, heaven can wait)... so in this manner, bring your daughter is an obvious choice for the "concert songs" category.