dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
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Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
And they're tone deaf as fuck. How do they respond to the backlash? "But most games sold are digital!" Bruh, it's about OPTIONS. Most of the games I own are digital, because I rarely leave my house. But I also watch DVDs, Blu Rays and listen to CDs on my XBOX. The occasional 360 and Xbox One physical game I still play like the Mega Man Legacy Collection are still in use.
Anyway.... Finally finished Final Fantasy III, but I'm upset lol. I did some grinding to get my party members from level 38 to 46. Then I did the Eureka dungeon to fight the sub boss gauntlet to get epic weapons. Then I grinded the 5th, 6th and 7th floor to fight the yellow, green and red dragon to get the onion gear. But did I? Well, no. I got the onion helmet and the onion shield. That's it. Also, the red dragon NEVER spawned on this play through. It wasn't a total loss as I got a bunch of Elixir potions so I was able to use magic with abandon.
Now I'm stuck in Final Fantasy IV with the Baigan fight. He hits HARD, multiple times and uses hold on all my party. The only person with ESUNA is the old mage and he can't target all party members with it. I'm considering grinding a bit in the wilderness outside to make the party slightly stronger. I think I'm level 17.
Anyway.... Finally finished Final Fantasy III, but I'm upset lol. I did some grinding to get my party members from level 38 to 46. Then I did the Eureka dungeon to fight the sub boss gauntlet to get epic weapons. Then I grinded the 5th, 6th and 7th floor to fight the yellow, green and red dragon to get the onion gear. But did I? Well, no. I got the onion helmet and the onion shield. That's it. Also, the red dragon NEVER spawned on this play through. It wasn't a total loss as I got a bunch of Elixir potions so I was able to use magic with abandon.
Now I'm stuck in Final Fantasy IV with the Baigan fight. He hits HARD, multiple times and uses hold on all my party. The only person with ESUNA is the old mage and he can't target all party members with it. I'm considering grinding a bit in the wilderness outside to make the party slightly stronger. I think I'm level 17.
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
Im starting octopath traveler 2 because of the hype of that new FF snes looklike and i can remember now what annoys me. The constant walk and suddenly a combat. Also you can farm this way but its crazy
jamessmith
Prowler
I can see why so many people keep coming back to this game. I haven't completed it multiple times, but I liked the Cyberpunk aesthetic enough to buy a Cyberpunk-inspired costume. Now I feel even more motivated to play through the game properly and experience everything, especially Phantom Liberty.
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Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
Random encounters are such a pain in any game. That being said, the Octopath Traveler games are amazing. Love them both (haven't played Zero), and 2 is just 1 on steroids. Everything that worked from the first plus better stories, darker, more theatrical combat (when the camera spins after fully charging!).
If you like RPGs, but don't like random encounters I recommend Sea of Stars. You can see the enemies in the overworld and you can choose to engage or avoid them.
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
This looks great! Thnx. About random encounters are good for farming but yes its sometimes annoying,that was in FF1,2,3 and the same or worst in Octopath 2. But its cool to see how a game look like now following what the first FF series started. And its really good
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garrysen
Prowler
Baigan can definitely be a tough fight if you reach him a bit underleveled. Around level 17 is possible, but gaining a couple more levels can make a noticeable difference. I'd also focus on taking out his arms first since they can be really annoying if left alive. Make sure everyone has the best equipment available from recent towns, and don't be afraid to use healing items instead of relying only on magic. As for FFIII, getting only the Onion Helmet and Shield after all that farming is pretty unlucky crazy time live. At least you came away with plenty of Elixirs, but I can understand why that would feel frustrating after putting in so much time.
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
Just finished Final Fantasy IV. Oh man, the final battles are getting progressively harder. In FF III, I was down to my white mage early on, but I was able to recover, revive the entire party and duke it out, but just barely. Now, in FF IV, it was rough. Again I found myself with just one character on a couple of occasions. I had Kain jumping so he was spared the most, but I basically focused on having Kain, Cecil and Rosa alive. Edge and Rey spent 90% of the fight on the ground lol.
FF V is next and I'm fairly curious. During my deep dives into the FF games, this one seems to be the forgotten gem. People either have a fond nostalgia for the NES trilogy or fanboy over IV and VI. Of the four I've played so far I've actually enjoyed III the most. It took a while to get used to the new combat mechanic in IV, and the story seemed to be heavily... "borrowed" from Scientology LOL.
I am a tad upset that VI isn't included on Game Pass. Don't get me wrong, I'm buying the collection anyway, because I did like them enough to purchase them, but it would've been nice to play all of them in one go.
FF V is next and I'm fairly curious. During my deep dives into the FF games, this one seems to be the forgotten gem. People either have a fond nostalgia for the NES trilogy or fanboy over IV and VI. Of the four I've played so far I've actually enjoyed III the most. It took a while to get used to the new combat mechanic in IV, and the story seemed to be heavily... "borrowed" from Scientology LOL.
I am a tad upset that VI isn't included on Game Pass. Don't get me wrong, I'm buying the collection anyway, because I did like them enough to purchase them, but it would've been nice to play all of them in one go.
Vaenyr
Ancient Mariner
V is my favourite from the 2D entries. If you enjoyed the job system in III, V has that on steroids. You can do some really fun things. Its best features are less the story or cinematic moments and more the gameplay systems. VI on the other hand is much more cinematic and if you've played OG VII before you'll see a lot of similarities in overall gamedesign. Have fun!
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
Is it for Ps?
Btw
Im playing octopath traveller. The story is a bit cofusing,the main story and following the chapters .
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
As far as I know the pixel remakes are available on all systems
As for Octopath, you are not alone. The "story" is by far it's weakest aspect. The stories are independent of each other, each character is on their own quest. According to youtubers that have actually finished the game's "true" ending, the stories eventually connect, but not all that well.
I LOVED the music, presentation, 2.5D diorama graphics and gameplay. I liked the characters and their individual stories.
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
Nice! Looking forward to it.
I hadn't played a single FF game until now, so the myths and legends about how great 7 and 8 are are just that... stories. Honestly, don't know if I'll play those.
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
Im going to do the chapters of each character because thr main storie what is? I started with the samurai but is not the main i think
Vaenyr
Ancient Mariner
If you enjoyed the previous entries there's no reason not to play 7 and 8!
7 gets a ton of praise, and considering its historical significance it deserves quite a bit of it. It's obviously not a perfect game though and some aspects have not aged that well. The presentation is kinda funny, because during random battles you have "detailed" 3D models, with proper human proportions. While exploring you have prerendered 2D backgrounds and 3D figures with almost chibi proportions running around. They feel a bit more like Lego figures than anything else lol
8 is actually a bit of black sheep nowadays. Personally it's my favourite entry in the franchise, because I really enjoy its setting and some of the gameplay systems. The soundtrack is also a contender for Uematsu's best overall score for a game.
It's also pretty cool to get to 9 when going chronologically. 6 starts with leaving the typical fantasy of 1-5 behind(-ish) and introduces steampunk elements. 7 goes further beyond and changes some iconic things (the battle theme not having the same intro as the first 6 entries and other little details that I'll leave unspoiled). 8 has a more modern and even futuristic setting at times and also leaves behind some of the classic tropes. 9 brings back the fantasy setting and revisits a lot of the tropes again. I like 'em all for different reasons and think they're still worth playing.
Vaenyr
Ancient Mariner
It's also interesting to observe how Square kept pushing cinematic moments in their games as they went along.
FF1 has its story and setting but it is relatively barebones, which makes sense given the time it was released.
2 introduced named characters and had a bit more emphasis on story.
3 was lighter on that department and focused more on the job system.
4 was a major step forward, with many dramatic scenes and a frankly hilarious amount of fake-out deaths/suicides/sacrifices.
5 was a bit of a step back again, 6 a lot more cinematic and dramatic.
From 7 onward they really focused on graphics and CGI cutscenes. 7 obviously looks incredibly dated nowadays, while 8 has a much more robust art style and presentation. For the PS2 games and onwards the difference between the CGI scenes and the gameplay graphics kept diminishing, and come FF16 they barely look different. Kinda crazy to be honest.
FF1 has its story and setting but it is relatively barebones, which makes sense given the time it was released.
2 introduced named characters and had a bit more emphasis on story.
3 was lighter on that department and focused more on the job system.
4 was a major step forward, with many dramatic scenes and a frankly hilarious amount of fake-out deaths/suicides/sacrifices.
5 was a bit of a step back again, 6 a lot more cinematic and dramatic.
From 7 onward they really focused on graphics and CGI cutscenes. 7 obviously looks incredibly dated nowadays, while 8 has a much more robust art style and presentation. For the PS2 games and onwards the difference between the CGI scenes and the gameplay graphics kept diminishing, and come FF16 they barely look different. Kinda crazy to be honest.
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
Oh you're playing OT II! I LOVE that guy, fucking dark ass story. From II I liked him, the Scholar and the Nurse the most. From the first game I played as H'aanit, the Hunter. In two I liked Ochette's skill set while I didn't particularly like her. In two, the overarching story is that the world is going to get consumed by darkness and it actually delivers. Once you're donde with all the main stories you can select to continue and it will warn you that it is a point of no return. If you decide not to continue you can mess around, grind, find all treasures and items, finish side quests, etc. In both games you have to grind to about level 70 to be anywhere near strong enough for the "true" ending
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
I do have one reason not to. I HATE N64/PS1 era graphics. Absolutely can't stand them. I find them jarring and off putting. They are the sole reason I quit console gaming until the xbox 360 and only played the EA NHL games and OG Blizzard on PC. Even today, when games do "retro graphics" I love 8-bit and 16-bit homages and presentation, but stay away with the heavily polygonal N64/PS1 graphics. A great example is Signalis. Many people sing its praises, but I couldn't do it. I played the first mission and called it quits.
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
So the main story is all toghether?
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
Yes, but in both games it doesn't become clear until the very end.
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
I was thinking that