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There is not a single leftist or "neo marxist" in political office.

There are literal fascists ruling the country and violating the constitutional rights of US citizens.

Enlightened Centrists: bOtH sIdEs aRe tHe sAmE.

The Democratic party is literally a center-right party if you look at them in the global context of politics. Just because the overton window is so far to the right in the US doesn't make this statement any less true. That's not up for debate.
 
I love how Vaenyr completely ignored my post with the article and just trumpeted his trumpet. I’m not denying in any way that the current U.S. administration is fucked up. My main point was that U.S. academia is—or may be—infested with idiotic ideas, that there’s a wasp’s nest in the education system (and has been for a long time). And maybe this is part of what fuels the current U.S. shift to the far right. I don’t know—I don’t have a crystal ball, and my guess is as good as yours. But that article wasn’t written by some random Twitter dweller—it definitely has some merit.

And if many of you will just say that voters are dumb and so on—come on, that’s such a weak argument. Maybe some progressives pushed too hard? Maybe Democrats (and Republicans too) neglected or forgot about blue-collar working men and small-town communities? Maybe the overly tolerant Dems were too soft on russia and China, and didn’t do enough to counter malicious propaganda? And now they’re reaping what they sowed? Maybe. Just maybe.

Regarding neo-Marxism as a threat—of course it’s not out in the open. But maybe, over time, this poison seeped into the education system. Maybe it found a way to influence U.S. politics through a kind of back door—shaping new ideas, vectors, and the speeches of thinkers. These are only guesses on my part, but they’re drawn from that article.
 
Dems are clearly centre right.

Bernie wants everyone to have healthcare and decent wages and the Americans think that makes him an extremist.

I remember an American joining our workplace 15 years ago. She was very much a Republican and thought we were all dangerous communists because we supported the NHS and the welfare state.

That did not stop her giving birth twice for free thanks to the NHS though...
 
I was gonna write a response to Azas but I just don’t have the energy. I don’t get why the guy who hates Russia is going after the left, which is predominantly made up of people who hate Russia. The right has been fucking over Ukraine for years now, and yet you want to keep kicking the football of their propaganda into their goals. It’s so exhausting.

Academia is yet another distraction from the things that they don’t want you to think about. The constitution is under threat. The president is a pedophile and a rapist. LGBTQ+ people are under fire (trans people, just a few days ago, were labeled “terrorists” by the government and their passports are once again under threat). Prices continue to go up. People are being held prisoner in foreign countries with no hope of trial. People are choosing to die rather than pay the insane prices of medical bills.

But sure, Jan, let’s talk about the far left academics that are RUINING this country! Let’s just say kids are being indoctrinated and never ask why, if they’re being indoctrinated, we ended up with a fascist government!! I’m an ostrich, head in the sand!!!
 
I was gonna write a response to Azas but I just don’t have the energy. I don’t get why the guy who hates Russia is going after the left, which is predominantly made up of people who hate Russia. The right has been fucking over Ukraine for years now, and yet you want to keep kicking the football of their propaganda into their goals. It’s so exhausting.

Academia is yet another distraction from the things that they don’t want you to think about. The constitution is under threat. The president is a pedophile and a rapist. LGBTQ+ people are under fire (trans people, just a few days ago, were labeled “terrorists” by the government and their passports are once again under threat). Prices continue to go up. People are being held prisoner in foreign countries with no hope of trial. People are choosing to die rather than pay the insane prices of medical bills.

But sure, Jan, let’s talk about the far left academics that are RUINING this country! Let’s just say kids are being indoctrinated and never ask why, if they’re being indoctrinated, we ended up with a fascist government!! I’m an ostrich, head in the sand!!!
Mate, if things are getting worse, then why isn’t there a clear statement from decent U.S. citizens? Where are the mass protests—the kind that would be seen on TV even in other parts of the world? Why is no one showing Trump and his administration that society stands against what he’s doing? Why aren’t the Democrats marching with banners for ‘free speech,’ or something along those lines? I’m just asking. Honestly, I’m a bit surprised there’s so little resistance in the streets to what Trump is doing. Or maybe I just don’t see it. Or maybe James Carville is right, and the Democrats are simply waiting for Trump to completely fuck things up?
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And one more observation: ‘Oh, that political scientist leans to the right, let’s completely discard what he says.’ I think that’s the wrong path. You should at least listen to what your opponents say—sometimes they’re the ones pointing out your flaws. Unless, of course, they discredit themselves with utter nonsense.
 
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Why, oh fuck almighty, are we still debating about “why dems lost” and “what dems need to do” when the literal fucking ruling Republican Party is making Pentagon journalists sign a pledge to only print state-approved news?!

The government is stepping in and firing comedians because they got their petty baby fucking feelings hurt.

This is fucking crazy.

It’s crazy.

If you don’t see the fascism, you’re a fascist.
 
We’re debating why the Dems lost—because the price of that loss was huge? Now the loons are running the country, aren’t they?

But okay, I’ll show some goodwill on my part. I’ll refrain from criticizing the Dems or the left for at least a month. I totally get that my posts—sometimes erroneous—might get a bit tiresome. And I’m willing to admit I might be wrong sometimes… (though I sense a great joke here: some of you will insist I’m wrong all the time, ha ha). Peace.
 
Or maybe I just don’t see it.
You don't see it. There's been thousands and thousands of people in the streets, but it's not making the top line of the news. Low level street resistance to ICE is very real. 50501 (terrible name) has been organizing protests nationally. I agree it hasn't made it to critical mass yet, but remember it took 10 years to get there for the Civil Rights Movement.
 
We’re debating why the Dems lost—because the price of that loss was huge? Now the loons are running the country, aren’t they?
Sure and yes, but analyzing the past of the losing side isn't going to help anything right now. The Democratic party won't even look the same in 3 years time, so trying to fix the Biden/Harris cock-up now literally doesn't matter. Poking holes in the activity of the party that isn't causing the problems doesn't help solve the problems.

Your opinions are your opinions and your views on the leftists are whatever they are, but it just blows my mind that we're finding absolutely everything we can to distract ourselves from the takeover of our country by Trump and his cronies.

Oh, and also The Epstein Files. #neverforget
 
I'll just post an excerpt of Michta's wiki page. Not every article deserves our time and attention.

As for @Azas: I didn't trumpet anything. You've - once again! - came in to this thread to stirr shit up by posting right wing populistic nonsense and are arguing against blatantly untrue things. There is no neo marxism in America; you really need to quit Twitter. It's completely distorting your perception of reality. This isn't the first time where you fell for propaganda and posted things that have no basis in reality. Hell, it's incredibly ironic how often you unironically share Russian propaganda, for someone who hates Russia so much.

So yeah, I'm sorry, but I cannot take your takes in these threads serious in any way. There is no actual substance to debate. If that's "ignoring" the point to you, then so be it. The mightiest nation on earth has fallen to fascism while you spend all your energy fighting the phantoms of the "far left". Good luck, I guess.
 

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Mate, if things are getting worse, then why isn’t there a clear statement from decent U.S. citizens? Where are the mass protests—the kind that would be seen on TV even in other parts of the world?
Dude:

What the fuck are you talking about???

There have been countless and huge protests all over the US ever since Trump became President. Just because you don't see it and the media aren't pushing it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but you really need to inform yourself better. At this point this is weaponized ignorance, no two ways about it.

Honestly, I’m a bit surprised there’s so little resistance in the streets to what Trump is doing. Or maybe I just don’t see it.
We know that you don't believe the bolded, but the sadly hilarious thing is that this is the most correct part of your entire post. You are oblivious to the simple facts of a matter where you like to butt in far too often.

And one more observation: ‘Oh, that political scientist leans to the right, let’s completely discard what he says.’ I think that’s the wrong path. You should at least listen to what your opponents say—sometimes they’re the ones pointing out your flaws. Unless, of course, they discredit themselves with utter nonsense.
No. If someone is flirting with right wing populism and is acting in bad faith they do not deserve a single second of our attention. I can't believe I have to type it out:

You can't trust everything you read on the internet.

To the mods:
If this was too hostile feel free to give me a warning, a thread-ban or an outright ban, but this disingenuous, disrespectful and needlessly provocative behavior can't go on. It happens every few weeks, whenever things calmed down and only serves to bring up the heat in the room. Posting anti-woke and anti-left think pieces and fucking Twitter threads by right wing populists, and whining about "neo-marxists" (fucking hell) isn't about debate or discussion; it's a soapbox.
 
I see we're doing the "I read something on the internet that one person on the left said and I am mad, this now requires an outright condemnation from party leadership as a whole or else it's clear that this thing I've riled myself up over is official party policy" thing again.
 
I think my post was calm—I didn’t attack any user. Regarding your (Vaenyr) ‘trumpeting,’ all I meant was that you shifted the focus to ‘fascists in office, there are no Marxists.’ That’s all. I was actually interested in that article about neo-Marxist ideas in U.S. universities. Obviously, I don’t know firsthand what’s happening there. So… does that mean any right-wing opinion is nonsense? Huh

Also, I asked ChatGPT about Andrew A. Michta’s political views… To me, it doesn’t look like he’s pro-Russian—quite the opposite. (He’s the one who wrote the article I reposted today.)

Who is Andrew A. Michta​

  • An American political scientist, born in Poland.
  • He’s a Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council’s GeoStrategy Initiative.
  • His expertise includes international security, NATO, European politics and security, with a special focus on Central and Eastern Europe and the Baltic states.



His views on Russia​

Here are some of the key points Michta makes, showing his stance:
  1. Russia as a Revisionist / Imperial State
    • He repeatedly describes Russia under Vladimir Putin as seeking to revise the post–Cold War order, reclaim territory, and reassert influence in its near abroad (Central and Eastern Europe).
    • He says that Russia’s war against Ukraine is not an isolated event, but part of a broader drive to restore what he calls velikiy russkiy mir (“great Russian world” / Pax Russica).
  2. Russia’s Strategic / Civilizational Opposition to the West
    • He argues that there is a civilizational dimension in how Russian leadership views itself in opposition to the West. The idea that Russia sees its identity and legitimacy partly in confrontation with Western norms.
    • He criticizes Russian ideology such as “official nationalism” (Orthodoxy, autocracy, nationality) and how it has echoes in current Russian foreign policy.
  3. Support for NATO / Ukraine
    • Michta supports Ukraine’s membership in NATO. He sees it as not only effective but economical for securing Europe.
    • He strongly argues that failing to allow Ukraine into NATO (or delaying membership) plays into Russian hands.
  4. Warning about Russian Military Rebuilding & Deterrence
    • He believes that Russia can rebuild its military fairly quickly (within a few years) and that Western/European states are not keeping pace in terms of readiness, deterrence, and perception of risk.
    • He sees Europe’s security posture—especially on the Eastern flank—as fragile and warns of a potential collapse or serious imbalance if deterrence weakens or if institutional cohesion (within NATO) is lost.
  5. Attribution of Blame and Responsibility
    • He holds Vladimir Putin, and the Russian state, largely responsible for the aggression against Ukraine and the broader destabilization in the region.
    • He emphasizes that any rational strategy to deal with Russian aggression must begin from acknowledging that responsibility.

Is he “pro-Russian”?​


No — based on his published work and statements, he is not pro-Russian. On the contrary:
  • He sees Russia as a threat (military, ideological, geopolitical).
  • He urges stronger Western (NATO / US / Europe) responses and unity against Russian aggression.
  • He supports Ukraine’s defenses and their inclusion into Western security structures.

What we do know about his U.S.-context views

  1. Strong national security / foreign policy realism
    Michta emphasizes that U.S. policy should foreground hard power, geopolitical threats, and defense alliances.
    For example, he argues that the U.S. must rethink NATO’s burden-sharing and structure to better handle threats from Russia, China, etc.
  2. Concern with polarization, governance, “national consensus”
    Michta frequently speaks about the internal U.S. crisis of polarization: the weakening of shared norms, the collapse of trust, disputes about national identity, “woke” culture, immigration debates, etc.
    He argues that American democratic order depends on renewing what he calls a national consensus—shared narratives about what the country is and what citizenship means.
  3. Critique of globalization / liberal world order assumptions
    He’s skeptical of some post-Cold War assumptions—particularly that globalization, liberal democracy, and global economic openness would resolve geopolitical threats or make the world safe.
    He warns that reliance on purely institutional / normative frameworks (vs power politics) underestimates adversaries.
  4. Emphasis on traditional state sovereignty, defense, and a stricter immigration/identity lens
    His points often circle back to national sovereignty, the importance of defending one’s borders, and pushing back against what he deems elite-driven ideologies (e.g. “woke” or cultural progressivism) as potentially eroding cohesion.



Is he “far right”?​


“Far right” is a loaded term—it suggests extremist or ultra-conservative positions (often ideologically rigid, exclusionary, sometimes nativist, anti-pluralist). Based on what’s available:

  • No strong evidence that Michta supports extremist or fringe far-right views. He tends to operate within mainstream foreign policy / national security debates.
  • He is critically conservative on certain cultural issues: e.g., critical of “cancel culture,” worried about identity politics, etc. These are often associated with right-leaning thinkers.
  • On immigration, “woke culture,” elite institutions, he appears skeptical of liberal cosmopolitanism and more open immigration frameworks. This can overlap with some right-wing populist critiques.

However:
  • He doesn’t seem to reject democratic norms, or embrace authoritarian elements. He works in academic / policy think-tank circuits (Atlantic Council, etc.).
  • He doesn’t appear to push radical social policies typical of the far right (e.g. overt ethno-nationalism, major anti-immigrant laws as a core platform), at least not in his public writing.
  • His focus is heavily on foreign policy, institutional capacity, geopolitical threats; less on domestic policy that often typifies far-right movements (though he does engage with cultural / identity issues).



My assessment: Where he likely sits​


Putting all this together, I’d describe him as right-of-center, conservative-leaning in cultural and foreign policy dimensions, but not far right in the sense of extremist or outside mainstream. More precisely:
  • Someone concerned with restoring or preserving traditional ideas of citizenship, national identity, state sovereignty.
  • A realist in foreign policy—not isolationist, but wanting tough posture vs threats.
  • Critical of liberal elite institutions, identity politics, political polarization.
 
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I think my post was calm—I didn’t attack any user. Regarding your (Vaenyr) ‘trumpeting,’ all I meant was that you shifted the focus to ‘fascists in office, there are no Marxists.’ That’s all. I was actually interested in that article about neo-Marxist ideas in U.S. universities. Obviously, I don’t know firsthand what’s happening there. So… does that mean any right-wing opinion is nonsense? Huh

Also, I asked ChatGPT about Andrew A. Michta’s political views… To me, it doesn’t look like he’s pro-Russian—quite the opposite. (He’s the one who wrote the article I reposted today.)

Who is Andrew A. Michta​

  • An American political scientist, born in Poland.
  • He’s a Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council’s GeoStrategy Initiative.
  • His expertise includes international security, NATO, European politics and security, with a special focus on Central and Eastern Europe and the Baltic states.



His views on Russia​

Here are some of the key points Michta makes, showing his stance:
  1. Russia as a Revisionist / Imperial State
    • He repeatedly describes Russia under Vladimir Putin as seeking to revise the post–Cold War order, reclaim territory, and reassert influence in its near abroad (Central and Eastern Europe).
    • He says that Russia’s war against Ukraine is not an isolated event, but part of a broader drive to restore what he calls velikiy russkiy mir (“great Russian world” / Pax Russica).
  2. Russia’s Strategic / Civilizational Opposition to the West
    • He argues that there is a civilizational dimension in how Russian leadership views itself in opposition to the West. The idea that Russia sees its identity and legitimacy partly in confrontation with Western norms.
    • He criticizes Russian ideology such as “official nationalism” (Orthodoxy, autocracy, nationality) and how it has echoes in current Russian foreign policy.
  3. Support for NATO / Ukraine
    • Michta supports Ukraine’s membership in NATO. He sees it as not only effective but economical for securing Europe.
    • He strongly argues that failing to allow Ukraine into NATO (or delaying membership) plays into Russian hands.
  4. Warning about Russian Military Rebuilding & Deterrence
    • He believes that Russia can rebuild its military fairly quickly (within a few years) and that Western/European states are not keeping pace in terms of readiness, deterrence, and perception of risk.
    • He sees Europe’s security posture—especially on the Eastern flank—as fragile and warns of a potential collapse or serious imbalance if deterrence weakens or if institutional cohesion (within NATO) is lost.
  5. Attribution of Blame and Responsibility
    • He holds Vladimir Putin, and the Russian state, largely responsible for the aggression against Ukraine and the broader destabilization in the region.
    • He emphasizes that any rational strategy to deal with Russian aggression must begin from acknowledging that responsibility.

Is he “pro-Russian”?​


No — based on his published work and statements, he is not pro-Russian. On the contrary:
  • He sees Russia as a threat (military, ideological, geopolitical).
  • He urges stronger Western (NATO / US / Europe) responses and unity against Russian aggression.
  • He supports Ukraine’s defenses and their inclusion into Western security structures.

What we do know about his U.S.-context views

  1. Strong national security / foreign policy realism
    Michta emphasizes that U.S. policy should foreground hard power, geopolitical threats, and defense alliances.
    For example, he argues that the U.S. must rethink NATO’s burden-sharing and structure to better handle threats from Russia, China, etc.
  2. Concern with polarization, governance, “national consensus”
    Michta frequently speaks about the internal U.S. crisis of polarization: the weakening of shared norms, the collapse of trust, disputes about national identity, “woke” culture, immigration debates, etc.
    He argues that American democratic order depends on renewing what he calls a national consensus—shared narratives about what the country is and what citizenship means.
  3. Critique of globalization / liberal world order assumptions
    He’s skeptical of some post-Cold War assumptions—particularly that globalization, liberal democracy, and global economic openness would resolve geopolitical threats or make the world safe.
    He warns that reliance on purely institutional / normative frameworks (vs power politics) underestimates adversaries.
  4. Emphasis on traditional state sovereignty, defense, and a stricter immigration/identity lens
    His points often circle back to national sovereignty, the importance of defending one’s borders, and pushing back against what he deems elite-driven ideologies (e.g. “woke” or cultural progressivism) as potentially eroding cohesion.



Is he “far right”?​


“Far right” is a loaded term—it suggests extremist or ultra-conservative positions (often ideologically rigid, exclusionary, sometimes nativist, anti-pluralist). Based on what’s available:

  • No strong evidence that Michta supports extremist or fringe far-right views. He tends to operate within mainstream foreign policy / national security debates.
  • He is critically conservative on certain cultural issues: e.g., critical of “cancel culture,” worried about identity politics, etc. These are often associated with right-leaning thinkers.
  • On immigration, “woke culture,” elite institutions, he appears skeptical of liberal cosmopolitanism and more open immigration frameworks. This can overlap with some right-wing populist critiques. Wikipedia+1

However:
  • He doesn’t seem to reject democratic norms, or embrace authoritarian elements. He works in academic / policy think-tank circuits (Atlantic Council, etc.).
  • He doesn’t appear to push radical social policies typical of the far right (e.g. overt ethno-nationalism, major anti-immigrant laws as a core platform), at least not in his public writing.
  • His focus is heavily on foreign policy, institutional capacity, geopolitical threats; less on domestic policy that often typifies far-right movements (though he does engage with cultural / identity issues).



My assessment: Where he likely sits​


Putting all this together, I’d describe him as right-of-center, conservative-leaning in cultural and foreign policy dimensions, but not far right in the sense of extremist or outside mainstream. More precisely:
  • Someone concerned with restoring or preserving traditional ideas of citizenship, national identity, state sovereignty.
  • A realist in foreign policy—not isolationist, but wanting tough posture vs threats.
  • Critical of liberal elite institutions, identity politics, political polarization.

Just a quick reminder to all and not just @Azas .

Chat GPT and any other A.I is an algorithm. It answers based on how it was programmed and yes the answers can lean left, right or whatever based on how the algorithm was coded/programmed.

Just like Twitter/Facebook or any other social media can be programmed to favor certain posts, an AI can be programmed to favor certain views.
 
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