Watch Maiden live online!

SinisterMinisterX

SinisterMinisterX

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Hello all you happy people! I haven't been around in a few weeks because my new job is insanely hectic. In fact, right now I'm only taking a brief break from another 14-hour day. But I thought I'd share something I came across the other day...

For those of you who have 2 hours to spare, sitting in front of your computer:
Watch the entirety of Maiden Live At Donnington 1992 online!
Click this link, then select Maiden from the list of free concerts.
I linked to their entire list of concerts because some people may also be interested in other stuff there... CoB, Dream Theater etc.

Apparently, this is completely legal - the site I linked to above only presents movies which (they claim) have lapsed on their copyright and are therefore now in the public domain.
 
I highly doubt that the copyright on "The Wizard of Oz" has expired :rolleyes:
 
The newer media is probably not in public domain, so watch them while you can. Tomorrow they could be gone.
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Seemingly, one needs to read the small print.
(or in this case the fourth main paragraph of the article :rolleyes:)
 
I'd have to check but I thought they changed the rules of copyright.

Before, the owners had to declare themselves willing to pursue ownership every given period of time. By default, the piece would fall into public domain.

Now, the owners don't have to lift a finger, it's automatically done for a 70-year period of time. Only if the owner waives its rights can a piece fall into public domain early. This logic is certainly good for corporation, but unfair for artistic pieces that no one cares about or for whom no one really knows the owner of (so no one cares and they stay copyrighted for nothing).

Anyway, don't have the time to check. If any legal person browses this forum...

Cheers
 
I'm not sure on Maiden but I'm pretty certain Wizard of Oz is now public domain. Disney were cacking themselves because Mickey Mouse was about to become public domain since hes 70 year old
 
I wonder if maybe international law is in play here. I mean, The Saint mentioned 70 years. I know he's Swiss, and I think the US is the same. But since Maiden is English, do they have a different copyright law? It seems to me the English law would apply.
Real World said:
Disney were cacking themselves because Mickey Mouse was about to become public domain since hes 70 year old
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I'm not much of a Disney fan; I was always a Warner Brothers guy. And many of the Warner Brothers characters will be turning 70 over the next 15 years or so.

Character - Year of first appearance
---------------------------------------------
Porky Pig - 1937
Daffy Duck - 1937
Bugs Bunny - 1940
Elmer Fudd - 1940
Tweety - 1942
Pepe Le Pew - 1945
Yosemite Sam - 1945
Sylvester - 1946
Foghorn Leghorn - 1946
Marvin the Martian - 1948
Road Runner - 1949
Wile E. Coyote - 1949
Speedy Gonzales - 1953
Tasmanian Devil - 1954
 
Nice-thanks for the link, SMX!
I've seen the Tuska gig from Bodom on other sites, along with a 2005 gig.  If anyone's interested, I can dig up the link if you PM me (because it's a rip from TV, I think, and I'm not sure of the legality of it)
Also, both of Death's live videos (Eindhoven Dynamofest and L.A.) are floating around the internet on youtube and google video, for anyone who wants to find them, as well.  You just have to know where to look, and you can find all manner of live full-lengths. :ok:
 
The 70 year rule is indeed a US rule. Sadly, it's not enough to know that Maiden is an English band, as copyright laws would apply nationally (if you live in the US and access the website in the US, then it's illegal).

Basically, the copyright law is governed by the Berne Convention (yep, in Switzerland :-) . It states that the copyright should hold through the life of the author plus 50 years. It also says that States can extend that latter limit if they will.

The European Union, a signatory of the convention, decided to extend the copyright laws in 1993. Copyright in the EU extends now during the life of the author plus 70 years. The EU, and not the US !, started the new copyright wars.
The 1993 EU law was way harsher than in the US, since this one only provided a 50 years copyright protection until 1978 and then a 70 years protection (disregarding if the author was alive or not).

So, as the EU started to extend the rules, the US decided to become part of the Berne Convention. Congress then passed a new law in 1998: the 70 year rule applies for work created in or after 1978.  If a corporation is the holder of the rights, then the limit is 120 years from the creation date or 95 year from the first publication, whichever of the two comes first.
Only works published before 1923 can now be in the public domain. The rest will remain private at least until 2019. And works created but not published in 1998 will be protected until 2047..

At least, the US were clearer in their intention, since the limit disregards the age of the author. Not to mention that in the EU, the new laws created a mess where works that had fallen in the public domain in certain countries became copyrighted again !!!

So, Disney can rest for now. Especially since both Congress and the European Commission could very well extend the copyrights lengths again in the future...


So, all in all, I don't know how these Maiden works could be in the public domain. Maybe only in countries not part of the Berne Convention (the servers of the website should also be there). But I doubt Maiden Holdings would happily release material in countries knowing they would fall rapidly in the public domain...

Cheers
 
Copyrights or not, the fact is that any concert from any half decent band will find itself on youtube or google video within a short space of time.  "Death on the Road" was on google video for a short period of time but was removed.  Even in that short space of time, millions of people could have downloaded it.  I have lost the plot in this post.  I don't know what I am trying to say.  Thank you for reading anyway :P
 
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