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[Detective Beauregard]

@Vaenyr

I said “insert yourself into a group of LEOs.” Very different situation. Rittenhouse was defending the neighborhood against violent leftist thugs.

And before you try to turn this around and say something like “that’s what Pretti was trying to do against Nazis” or something, these are federal LEOs who are conducting legal operations to deport illegal aliens. Or do you think that illegal aliens, who are here illegally, are committing no crime?

Also, we all saw the original leftist cut of the Renee Good footage that the corrupt leftist media wanted everyone to see, so yeah, I’ll wait for the real investigation. We have no idea what the ICE agent saw that prompted him to open fire. For all we know the guy could have had explosives on him.

 

[MrKnickerbocker]

There will be no evidence from the government. It is all being covered up and blocked. The only evidence we have is the literal video of witnesses. And it tells the story.

No intention, no matter how malicious you think it is, should get someone executed in the street.

You are truly fucked in the head if you believe that someone with a legal concealed carry permit, who did not draw their weapon, got what they deserve by being shot 5-10 times after being pistol whipped on the ground by 5 officers.

You just…you can’t argue that and expect anyone to take anything you say seriously.

It’s insane.

I don’t care if they interfered. He did not physically touch an officer. He did not draw his weapon. There is absolutely no training that teaches LEOs that the proper tactical response in that situation is to beat the person to the ground and shoot them multiple times.

This is just so fucking sad that someone has to tell you this. Jesus fucking Christ I’m disgusted.

 

[Vaenyr]

I said “insert yourself into a group of LEOs.” Very different situation. Rittenhouse was defending the neighborhood against violent leftist thugs.

The rioters weren't leftist. It's amazing how you manage to just gish gallop lies after lies thinking anyone would believe anything you say lmao

Also, no. It's even worse with Rittenhouse. Just own your hypocrisy instead of these little games. Pretti didn't brandish a gun. He didn't break ANY law. He was exercising his rights as an American citizen and yet you are here attacking those rights.

And before you try to turn this around and say something like “that’s what Pretti was trying to do against Nazis” or something, these are federal LEOs who are conducting legal operations to deport illegal aliens. Or do you think that illegal aliens, who are here illegally, are committing no crime?

We know for a fact that "illegal aliens" ok average commit fewer crimes than US citizens. It's amazing how misinformed you are.

Also, Pretti exercized his rights and was helping an innocent woman. That's all he did.

If ICE is supposed to be "deporting illegal aliens" why do they keep killing US citizens? You can't keep your stories straight.

Also, we all saw the original leftist cut of the Renee Good footage that the corrupt leftist media wanted everyone to see, so yeah, I’ll wait for the real investigation.

There is no "leftist media".

We saw the video from the ICE scum's very own phone that proved that he was not in danger but decided to execute her anyway. We already have the facts. It's just that you know that the facts are against you, so you'd rather dance around them.

We have no idea what the ICE agent saw that prompted him to open fire. For all we know the guy could have had explosives on him.

Know you're just embarrassing yourself.

He was shot almost a dozen times AFTER they made sure that he had no gun.

Dude, all of this is on VIDEO. We have SEEN what happened yet still you're peddling the Fox News talking points. Stop being such a pathetic bootlicker and for once show some figurative balls and call out what is so clearly wrong and evil: Fascists are killing innocent people and you are here defending them.

Do better.

 

[Detective Beauregard]

I’m not saying that Pretti broke any laws by being armed. I’m saying that packing a handgun with two additional magazines while charging into a group of LEOs was not a smart move. Just like with Renee Good, where if her intent was to truly not hit that ICE agent, she should have done as instructed and exited the vehicle instead of driving forward.

Also, all this overly emotional language from some of you guys is what separates the loony left from the logical right.

Who was the woman who Pretti was trying to “rescue?” If she was here illegally, then she’s not innocent.

If it is proven that this agent acted irresponsibly in shooting Pretti then I will admit it, but I am not going to jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence. And no, that doesn’t mean just a video that was probably edited in the first place. I’m sure there is more to this.

Also, Vaenyr, you are embarrassing yourself by claiming that there is “no leftist media.” You’d have to be blind to not see the blatant leftist spin to most media outlets. But then again, the radical left is so normal to you that you probably don’t see it.

 

[MrKnickerbocker]

If it is proven that this agent acted irresponsibly in shooting Pretti then I will admit it, but I am not going to jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence. And no, that doesn’t mean just a video that was probably edited in the first place. I’m sure there is more to this.

Proven by who? Dear Leader? Kristi Dogkiller? Pam fucking Bondi?

If it’s proven by evidence you’ll say it’s been tampered with.

If it’s proven by a judge you’ll say they were a leftist plant.

Beyond help.

 

[Detective Beauregard]

Kristi Dogkiller?

Ok, this is actually pretty funny. Cheers.

If it’s proven by evidence you’ll say it’s been tampered with.

If it’s proven by a judge you’ll say they were a leftist plant.

Not necessarily. Let’s wait and see as we unravel the mystery together.

Beyond help.

Now you know how I feel about you lefties. I can’t even voice my opinion in this topic without being pounced on. Down, boys.

 

[The Garlon]

Conducting legal operations my ass. This administration is using their own private police force to demolish people's constitutional rights in swing states. Stopping people based on skin color is unconstitutional and it's fucking sickening. You gotta me a sick minded fuckwit to support this

Edited because I left half a sentence out lol

 

[The Garlon]

Now you know how I feel about you lefties. I can’t even voice my opinion in this topic without being pounced on. Down, boys.

Typical conservative. You talk a bunch of shit then go "how come everybody is so mean to me? I just wanna have a civil conversation."
Shits weak

 

[____no5]

Are you honestly posting a fox "news" opinion piece and expecting anyone to take it seriously?

Labeling is not the right approach.
I haven’t even read the article yet, but I’m sure not everything from Fox is garbage as not everything from NYT is not garbage.

I remember citing here an article from Hindustan Times or whatever, weeks before and a clip from Joe Rogan A YEAR BEFORE Biden steps down that they were predicting it and everyone laughed here, when “serious” media portraying him as “sharp as a tack”.

Propaganda and lies are everywhere my friend, if you start labeling and discarding before even read, or considering reliable something else by default, this is exactly what the fascists you supposedly hate, would supposedly do.

 

[Vaenyr]

I’m not saying that Pretti broke any laws by being armed. I’m saying that packing a handgun with two additional magazines while charging into a group of LEOs was not a smart move.

Which is NOT what he did, which you would know if you had watched any of the videos instead of parroting Fox News talking points.

Just like with Renee Good, where if her intent was to truly not hit that ICE agent, she should have done as instructed and exited the vehicle instead of driving forward.

Bullshit. As we saw with Pretti, if ICE has made up their minds you're dead either way. Furthermore, ICE orders are not lawful orders.

Also, all this overly emotional language from some of you guys is what separates the loony left from the logical right.

There's not a single coherent thought coming from your side. That's why we are constantly countering all your lies with facts and proving you wrong

Who was the woman who Pretti was trying to “rescue?” If she was here illegally, then she’s not innocent.

She was here legally. ICE keeps harassing legal citizens. Which you'd also know if you paid any attention.

If it is proven that this agent acted irresponsibly in shooting Pretti then I will admit it, but I am not going to jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence. And no, that doesn’t mean just a video that was probably edited in the first place. I’m sure there is more to this.

Goddammit, watch the fucking video. It's NOT edited. We have multiple videos that show exactly what happened and not a single one of them is edited. It is beyond insulting that you are trolling in a thread like this about a situation like this and yet you haven't even watched what we are talking about. We have videos. We have sworn statements by the witnesses. Admit that you were wrong instead of doubling down.

Also, Vaenyr, you are embarrassing yourself by claiming that there is “no leftist media.”

Ooooh, this will be nice! Show me which of the media companies is run by leftists or has a leftist bias. Remember that leftism ≠ liberalism.

You’d have to be blind to not see the blatant leftist spin to most media outlets. But then again, the radical left is so normal to you that you probably don’t see it.

US corporate media are overwhelmingly center to far right, with barely some center-left at best blips. But I guess omif you support fascists anything left of Nazis will seem like communism.

Not necessarily. Let’s wait and see as we unravel the mystery together.

Wait for what exactly? We have tons of evidence that you refuse to even look at because it proves you wrong.

Now you know how I feel about you lefties. I can’t even voice my opinion in this topic without being pounced on. Down, boys.

You didn't voice an opinion. You made verifiably wrong statements that are proven wrong by facts. As Benny boy says: "Facts don't care about your feelings". You are objectively wrong on this but keep doubling down, probably just to get a reaction out of us. Deeply childish and pathetic behavior but that's what's to be expected by Trump cultists. This is why no rational person can take you guys seriously.

Labeling is not the right approach.
I haven’t even read the article yet, but I’m sure not everything from Fox is garbage as not everything from NYT is not garbage.

Fox has argued in court that they are an entertainment channel, not a new channel, and that people shouldn't take their "reporting" seriously. They are literally just a propaganda channel of the far right. Inform yourself of basic facts before jumping in to defend fascists.

 

[Yax]

Sorry, this is some serious Snowflake stuff going on. "Mean leftists don't agree with me and say mean things like I'm being a hypocrite". Dude. You are typing your fingers off, saying anything but "let's not wrestle a citizen to the ground and execute him point blank".