Ullevi 2005: the overlooked masterpiece?

The word had always been that they ditched Donnington 2007 because there were so many flags in the crowd and they obscured the cameras.

I've always been a little sceptical of this and here's why....

Maiden would surely have been aware of the amount of flags that might turn up at Donnington. They would have known how to film around them or simply chose another gig to film. There were lots of flags in 1992.

I reckon the recordings/performances and/or crowd reaction weren't good enough. The AMOLAD songs were tricky enough in terms of timings and I reckon Steve just didn't think it was good enough for release. Or he didn't dig the setlist enough. Either way, I don't buy the flags thing. If the flag thing is actually true then it seems quite short sighted.

I've heard the same thing, but I don't remember where for the first time. I also seem to remember there was an episode of someone tossing eggs on Bruce in reference to Eggfest, maybe that also has something to do with it.
 
I think the flag situation that year was a bit copy cat of Glasto, it was the relative early days of the Download festival and there's nowhere near as much now, and it may have been nipped in the bud as a result of this gig.

I haven't watched the footage in ages (and maybe never watched the whole lot of it) but wasn't there Bruce falling on his arse, and the intro tape to NOTB fucking up etc.
 
I haven't watched the footage in ages (and maybe never watched the whole lot of it) but wasn't there Bruce falling on his arse, and the intro tape to NOTB fucking up etc.

Correct. Someone also threw an egg at him and Bruce had a rant about it, physically threatening the culprit if I remember correctly.
 
I think it's a bit of a shame they shelved it entirely since Hallowed from that show was very good if you ask me, Breeg and IM sounded fine as well and the latter had one of the few unique visual things they've done for it in the reunion era with the tank Eddie. Plus they evidently recorded some '06 show too so they could've turned it around and used all footage from there for the AMOLAD material and sidestep the cocksucking Sharon wanker with an egg incident since it was right before These Colours Don't Run, ironically enough.
 
I've heard the flags rumor as well, but it has always been hearsay so I could easily see it being something that is unverified but now just accepted as fact. I have also heard that there was too much daylight and too many embarrassing moments such as Bruce falling. The funny thing though is that they got all the way to the mixing stage with this live album, but any of the previously mentioned reasons would have been apparent immediately after the performance. So why did it take so long to decide not to release it after all? That makes me think it has more to do with the weird release calendar of Maiden live videos at the time: the super late release of Death on the Road, splitting up Live After Death and Maiden England, and Flight 666 becoming a much bigger event than perhaps originally intended.
That Donington 2007 gig was average by Maiden's standards. What I was told is that the original plan was to release it with the 5 songs off AMOLAD that were not played as bonus tracks, but the project got shelved after Flight 666 took off (no pun intended).
I'd never heard this before, bummer if true. Is there a show from 2006 that we know Maiden recorded with the intention of sourcing these bonus tracks?
 
I've heard the flags rumor as well, but it has always been hearsay so I could easily see it being something that is unverified but now just accepted as fact. I have also heard that there was too much daylight and too many embarrassing moments such as Bruce falling. The funny thing though is that they got all the way to the mixing stage with this live album, but any of the previously mentioned reasons would have been apparent immediately after the performance. So why did it take so long to decide not to release it after all? That makes me think it has more to do with the weird release calendar of Maiden live videos at the time: the super late release of Death on the Road, splitting up Live After Death and Maiden England, and Flight 666 becoming a much bigger event than perhaps originally intended.

I'd never heard this before, bummer if true. Is there a show from 2006 that we know Maiden recorded with the intention of sourcing these bonus tracks?
Flight 666 was massive. They must have been the catalyst for shelving a release from the 2006 and 2007. Why release something from a warmly received tour when you could release a live soundtrack and film covering their most popular era…

Also, I also get irked every time someone (not you, @Mosh) says that SBIT was a WST revival. Even the band have said it in the last few years. It was partially, but it was sold as an 80s show. I was so bummed that Maiden England was delayed at the time when it was also supposed to accompany the SBIT tour. I could have easily foregone the Maiden England that they ended up cobbling together.
 
It seems pretty clear to me that the original intention of the Somewhere Back in Time tour was quite different from what it eventually became.
 
Also, I also get irked every time someone (not you, @Mosh) says that SBIT was a WST revival. Even the band have said it in the last few years. It was partially, but it was sold as an 80s show. I was so bummed that Maiden England was delayed at the time when it was also supposed to accompany the SBIT tour. I could have easily foregone the Maiden England that they ended up cobbling together.

Back in 2008, it was clear to everyone that it was a tour representing Powerslave through SSOASS to follow up on the Early Days concept. ME was a great tour, with some of my best personal memories, but I'm still disappointed they didn't have the balls to do a 90's tour instead.
 
Also, I also get irked every time someone (not you, @Mosh) says that SBIT was a WST revival. Even the band have said it in the last few years. It was partially, but it was sold as an 80s show. I was so bummed that Maiden England was delayed at the time when it was also supposed to accompany the SBIT tour. I could have easily foregone the Maiden England that they ended up cobbling together.

Same here. The Somewhere Back in Time was going to cover their 80s heyday, bookended by the release of Live After Death (before the tour) and Maiden England (after) as part of the History of Iron Maiden DVDs (by the way, those DVDs were such a great idea; shame they stopped releasing them). Although the stage set was heavily inspired by the World Slavery Tour one (arguably their most magnificent), that was the reason why the 2008 tour featured 2 songs off Somewhere in Time and 3 off Seventh Son of Seventh Tour.

At some point during 2008, Rod et al. notice that the history tours are incredibly profitable and, as a result, decide to postpone the release of the Maiden England DVD so they can have another history tour based on the 1988 tour. Another leg is added to the Somewhere Back in Time tour in 2009, this time with a stronger focus on the World Slavery Tour, and only featuring 1 song off Somewhere in Time and 1 off Seventh Son of Seventh Tour.
 
At some point during 2008, Rod et al. notice that the history tours are incredibly profitable and, as a result, decide to postpone the release of the Maiden England DVD so they can have another history tour based on the 1988 tour. Another leg is added to the Somewhere Back in Time tour in 2009, this time with a stronger focus on the World Slavery Tour, and only featuring 1 song off Somewhere in Time and 1 off Seventh Son of Seventh Tour.
Not forgetting Fear of the Dark, the most 80s song they have. That slot could've perfectly well been used for another actually period correct tune but no, we already did one tour without it and the universe nearly collapsed in on itself.
 
The ironic thing is that if they had planned to do a Seventh Son revival tour the entire time, they could have planned ahead better and kept more focus on Powerslave/Somewhere in Time and saved the Seventh Son deepcuts for later. Maybe tackle some of the Piece of Mind/TNOTB songs they missed on Early Days as well.

At this point it doesn't matter since we got Future Past eventually anyway, although I would have liked to hear Caught Somewhere in Time in 2008.
 
The ironic thing is that if they had planned to do a Seventh Son revival tour the entire time, they could have planned ahead better and kept more focus on Powerslave/Somewhere in Time and saved the Seventh Son deepcuts for later. Maybe tackle some of the Piece of Mind/TNOTB songs they missed on Early Days as well.

At this point it doesn't matter since we got Future Past eventually anyway, although I would have liked to hear Caught Somewhere in Time in 2008.
I would loved to have heard Bruce sing it anywhere between 1999 and 2004. Imagine the power!
 
Back in 2008, it was clear to everyone that it was a tour representing Powerslave through SSOASS to follow up on the Early Days concept. ME was a great tour, with some of my best personal memories, but I'm still disappointed they didn't have the balls to do a 90's tour instead.
I must be in the minority about the Maiden England tour. It was great to hear ATSS, The Prisoner, Seventh Son, Moonchild and Phantom. The rest of the setlist was a little bit predictable. Also I was fed up of hearing 2 Minutes on every tour. Less said about Aces High the better.
 
Not forgetting Fear of the Dark, the most 80s song they have. That slot could've perfectly well been used for another actually period correct tune but no, we already did one tour without it and the universe nearly collapsed in on itself.

Yes, Fear of the Dark stuck out like a sore thumb!
 
I must be in the minority about the Maiden England tour. It was great to hear ATSS, The Prisoner, Seventh Son, Moonchild and Phantom. The rest of the setlist was a little bit predictable. Also I was fed up of hearing 2 Minutes on every tour. Less said about Aces High the better.

It was a great tour, but it could have been better. They should have based it more on the DVD setlist to play some hidden gems (Still Life, Killers) instead of The Trooper or Fear of the Dark for the umpteenth time. And yes, Aces High as an encore was frankly ridiculous.
 
Maiden England was fine, I think it just comes down to the missed opportunity. No Infinite Dreams, no Killers, no Still Life. The excitement around Moonchild was kneecapped a bit by them playing it on the previous tour, although the 2012/13/14 version of Moonchild was infinitely better than the 2008 one IMO. It worked better as an opener, Adrian got his solo back, I always found the 2008 version of the intro, while cool, to be somewhat awkward.

Of the three "History Of" tours, I find The Early Days to be the only one that really takes some left field choices. Prowler, Another Life, Drifter, and Charlotte the Harlot are all songs that you wouldn't have expected them to touch again. The only real exception I can think of is Afraid to Shoot Strangers on Maiden England.
 
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