Something I'm curious about....

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First off, I'm just curious about this. I don't want to start any religious arguments. It doesn't matter either way, I'm just curious.

http://forum.maidenfans.com/index.php?topic=11707.0

The topic starter, BlackMaidenFan, says he/she read somewhere that Nicko, Dave, and Bruce are born again Christians. I know for a fact that Nicko is, but I'm wondering about Dave and Bruce. If it's true and if there's any proof of it. Like I said, I don't care either way. I'm just wondering is all. :)
 
Your right, who cares. As far as any evidence goes, they are Christian, whether it's born once or twice I don't think it matters as "Christianity" is founded on the belief of Jesus as the savior of mankind, the son of God and in 99.9% of Christian denominations God himself along with God the father and holy spirit.
 
I know Nicko is. As for the others, nobody's asked them. It's not our business. They make great music, and it's not too preachy, either. If Dave and Bruce are...well, all the power to them. That's their right to choose.
 
I'm 99% sure that Bruce is not a christian. In an interview (on this site, on the Piece of Mind or Powerslave section) he said that he's not religious, but is interested in the subjects of religion, the occult, etc... The source for Nicko's christianity is that he said something like ''Only God can give something a soul''. Steve said ''I'm not religious, but I'm not anti-religious either'' on the A Matter of Life and Death DVD.

^This is from my memory only, but I think I got it right. But I agree: their personal lives are their own buisness :)
 
a. Bruce: using interviews from a quarter-century ago isn't a good source for divining what Bruce might believe today. It has some relevance, but not much. A lot can change in 25 years.

b. Nicko: the source for our information is the numerous interviews he has given, in which he talks about being a born-again Xian. We have much more information than just the lyrics to "New Frontier".

c. Steve: can claim whatever he wants, but some of his lyrics indicate that he is indeed Xian - though not necessarily extra devout like Nicko. Or, at least: Steve writes from an Xian worldview. Whether he chose that, or just accepts it because it was taught to him as a child, we don't know.
 
Steve wore a cross during early days gigs, and maybe later as well. See b/w footage on Early Days DVD.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was/still is a Catholic.
 
Some people are Christian without being born-again, and therefore take their belief easy.
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
Steve: can claim whatever he wants, but some of his lyrics indicate that he is indeed Xian - though not necessarily extra devout like Nicko. Or, at least: Steve writes from an Xian worldview. Whether he chose that, or just accepts it because it was taught to him as a child, we don't know.
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What lyrics are you talking about? I can agree that some lyrics are written in a ''searching for answers'' kind of way, but not from a ''christian worldview'' all together. If I were to judge Steve's religiousity (if that's a word) then I would call him an agnostic; curious about religion, yet critical of the way men practice it. But then again: maybe his private life is a different story :)
 
I have a magazine where Bruce pretty much says he thinks religion is a powerful thing but that he doesn't believe in God (from 2005). I'm going to dig it out later today and double check.
 
I just want to remind people that the bands' personal lives is their own. Because this may influence writing, the discussion is OK, but if it descends into a discussion of religion vs. irreligion vs. another religion vs. Perun, then I am gonna have to lock the thread.
 
Onhell said:
They are all part of the Church of H anyway :p
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Not likely.

<--- High Priest of Murray.

Anyways, let's not turn it into a Murray vs Smith flame war. Not in this thread.  :P
 
There's a difference between criticizing organized religion vs. the beliefs themselves. Remember how the song ends:

He gave his life for us, he fell upon the cross
To die for all of those who never mourn his loss

A 100% pure statement of Xian belief.

You could equally well ask why Bruce was cool with singing the above, if he is indeed not religious.
 
Depends - it could have been meant from the perspective of a Christian point of view, who is questioning his belief. I imagine he could justify it if he wanted to.
 
It fits into the general message of the song, and the idea of the song remains the same whether you're a Christian or not.  I'm not Christian, but I can relate with those lines from a more general point of view.
 
And one could believe that Jesus died for mankind, without believing that he was the son of God etc... and not everything one writes is a 1st person narrative of the songwriter, it could be seen through different eyes that he created (which is one of the reasons I think people took Afraid to Shoot Strangers too seriously, but that's another thread).
 
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