School shooting threat

Yax

Ancient Mariner
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article4325386.ab

"Today is the day the first school in Sweden will tremble from a horrible school shooting. at 10 AM it all begins, be afraid Eskilstuna, be VERY afraid"

Today a thread was made towards my neighbour school, St Eskil (which lies 200 meters from my school) that someone would go by train and initate mass killingspree at 10 AM. The threat was made on an online forum (presumably a forum dedicated to this stuff). However, the Police was informed and set up a perimeter and the students barricaded themselves inside the school in wait for the evacuation. I think everybody's out now and noone got hurt.

What's scary though is what might have happened if the police was not alerted. Until the past year or so I've been foolishly thinking that something like this would never happen in Sweden. But then it happened in Finland and it goes from there. I mean where the fuck is our society at? People actually enjoying the thought of massacring an entire school (some replies on the site where the threat was made were "cool man" and "Target muslim students only!) I'm a bit chocked.

Edit: So far, no signs of the perpetrator. The Police are on it though: Let's hope the son of a bitch wasn't smart enough to hide his actual IP.

Edit 2: THE ASSHAT JUST CONFESSED AND IS NOW UNDER ARREST. He's 21 years old and claims it was "just a joke". I hope he'll rot in prison for several years to come.
 
Yet he may have accomplished his goal after all Yax, in many cases terrorists do not aim necessarily at causing harm but at disrupting normal operating schedules and just plainly causing choas. In this case it worked; but yeah, good deal, glad the little fucker got busted.
 
Yeah in that case, he succeeded. My bet is that he'll get 1-2 years max, since he never fulfilled the threat. Though he did publish photos of his gun... 
 
Not sure what you mean but... If you serve lifetime you serve 10-20 years.

Or do you mean like supervising?
 
No, I mean that, let's say a person gets a 5 year prison sentence for committing a crime but because of good behavior and an appearance of reform, the system lets him out of jail in 1 1/2 years. Is the trend in Sweden to be more or less lenient towards putting people back out on the street?
 
I think the Swedish word is Villkorlig frigivning.
 
Perun said:
I think the Swedish word is Villkorlig frigivning.
Right! That's what I meant by supervising, as in released but they keep an eye on you. Yeah that's what you get when you've served 15 years for murder: Parole. not always, but certainly not seldom.

Yeah he might get away with parole but I hope not.
 
That's bizarre. If you asked be to translate "Villkorlig frigivning", I'd probably say it means "random release". "Villkorlig" sounds a lot like German "Willkürlich" ("random"), "frigiving" like "Freigabe" ("release").

Sorry, I'll stop with the OT now.
 
I would have thought the Swedish system would be about as lenient as Finland, but apparently not.  There have been two school shootings in the last 1 and a half years here (the first ones, really), and in both the shooters killed themselves.  I prefer that to living and going to prison, since the Finnish system would never have given them the justice they deserve.

We've also had several cases of these kinds of threats after the first shooting.  I think they were all "jokes" by teenagers, though, which is almost as despicable.
 
Perun said:
That's bizarre. If you asked be to translate "Villkorlig frigivning", I'd probably say it means "random release". "Villkorlig" sounds a lot like German "Willkürlich" ("random"), "frigiving" like "Freigabe" ("release").

Sorry, I'll stop with the OT now.
Nope  :P. Not random release, but more... Villkorlig means something like... Under certain conditions.

Invader: Yeah. Despicable is a good word for it.

Edit: Nah he'll serve some time. I've made up my mind.  :P
 
Perun said:
That's bizarre. If you asked be to translate "Villkorlig frigivning", I'd probably say it means "random release". "Villkorlig" sounds a lot like German "Willkürlich" ("random"), "frigiving" like "Freigabe" ("release").

Sorry, I'll stop with the OT now.

Same here mate:

willekeurig: random
vrijgeving: release

2 languages vs 1 means that Swedish doesn't make sense.  :D
 
Invader said:
I would have thought the Swedish system would be about as lenient as Finland, but apparently not.  There have been two school shootings in the last 1 and a half years here (the first ones, really), and in both the shooters killed themselves.  I prefer that to living and going to prison, since the Finnish system would never have given them the justice they deserve.

It bothers me that people say prison is not the justice people deserve. I don't care what country you're from prison is not a Hilton or Holiday Inn, it's fucking prison. I certainly have no problem being in solitary confinement, but most people's biggest fear is being alone or in a strange place or both. You're every move is monitored and you don't have ANY privacy not even to take a shit.

Going back to Yax's first post, I'm glad they caught the guy, because the threat is more than enough to deserve incarceration.
 
Onhell said:
It bothers me that people say prison is not the justice people deserve. I don't care what country you're from prison is not a Hilton or Holiday Inn, it's fucking prison. I certainly have no problem being in solitary confinement, but most people's biggest fear is being alone or in a strange place or both. You're every move is monitored and you don't have ANY privacy not even to take a shit.

Going back to Yax's first post, I'm glad they caught the guy, because the threat is more than enough to deserve incarceration.
Actually... Here in Sweden, a guy shot an old lady so he could be sent to prison. He didn't have anything to eat and the convicts gets MUCH better food that say our elders or us students. And there are some more examples of that.

But yeah, most people don't want to go to prison, no matter which country it is in. I'm just saying that it's too nice in some prisons. When elders dies because they get lownutrifiction food I get pissed that criminals in prison gets that much better food.

/rant.
 
Forostar said:
Yeah. Life is all about food.
No need for sarcasm. There's a lot of reports of senior citizens who died prematurely because they didn't get any vitamins or fat at all in their food. Does that make me the village idiot for not wanting them to die while convicts gets free highquality food, 200 TV channels and playstation three? Which myself and the other taxpayers pays for.
 
Yax said:
Actually... Here in Sweden, a guy shot an old lady so he could be sent to prison. He didn't have anything to eat and the convicts gets MUCH better food that say our elders or us students. And there are some more examples of that.

But yeah, most people don't want to go to prison, no matter which country it is in. I'm just saying that it's too nice in some prisons. When elders dies because they get lownutrifiction food I get pissed that criminals in prison gets that much better food.

/rant.

That happens in ALL countries. A priest I met four years ago told me that as a seminarian he was doing social work with homeless kids and one of them told him that he had a life plan. He was going to commit a crime to go to prison and depending how long he wanted to go for that's how severe the crime would be. They found that boy dead in an alley two weeks later... shot I believe. Again, not a fucking paradise.

And I HIGHLY doubt prisoners get playstations... I want documentation of that or I maintain it's bullshit.
 
Onhell said:
It bothers me that people say prison is not the justice people deserve. I don't care what country you're from prison is not a Hilton or Holiday Inn, it's fucking prison. I certainly have no problem being in solitary confinement, but most people's biggest fear is being alone or in a strange place or both. You're every move is monitored and you don't have ANY privacy not even to take a shit.
I have to agree with Onhell, but I do wholly sympathise with Yax - however, it should not really be a case were either the prisoners or the elderly are left malnourished (or worse, both). Both should be fed properly (a group of hungry prisoners is not the sort of thing I would want to deal with and the dead elderly is not something anyone would want on their conscience).

And prison should be the first stage of a person’s rehabilitation. I dare say a fare few prisoners are there because a moment of madness or a stupid mistake or something like that and getting them back on the right track is surely a better way of tackling it than to let them build up more anger inside.
 
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