Perun As A Mod

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Up The Peruns! [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/wink.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\";)\" border=\"0\" alt=\"wink.gif\" /] Go on mate, enjoy yourself on me
 
[!--quoteo(post=130487:date=Mar 3 2006, 05:51 PM:name=Conor)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Conor @ Mar 3 2006, 05:51 PM) [snapback]130487[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
I have already stated my views about Perun but this post is about something much more serious.

The IMBB is closing down and in the future will be a fanclub only forum. This means most of the "n00bs" will have to pack up there and probably join other boards like this one. I say we brief ourselves for an attack, and quickly. We don't want to be overrun by these idiots so need to prepare for the onslaught.

(No surprise either that the IMBB closed down because the moderators got too lazy)
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That's not entirely correct I think. There will be a special section on the IMBB that only members of the FC have access to. But there will still be a normal forum for users without a membership.
 
Firstly, I think Perun would do a great job but I'm with Loose Cannon here. Generally people put themselves forward for nomination for moderator before a vote can be cast. Voting yey or ney for a single member makes the vote more of a "well you can have this or you can have nothing." I therefore decree (dependant on approval from the others) a new round of elections for moderators from the European time zone or and/or Australasian time zone

Can I also make this very clear right now. IF this is true about the official forum becoming fan club only then we will undoubtably get a lot of people joining here instead. This should not be treated as an invasion. Every member of that forum is welcome here until they put a foot out of line regardless of what anyone thinks of them. We will have enough moderation to cope with it with the advantage that we dont have the management of Iron Maiden to answer to. If any member of this forum attacks new members when they join they're the ones likely to be the ones thrown off the forum not the newbies. I don't want any grudges being carried over to here. I like this forum for the peacful community of like minded individuals it is. I don't want it to become the old lot vs the invaders [/rant]

[!--quoteo(post=130487:date=Mar 3 2006, 04:51 PM:name=Conor)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Conor @ Mar 3 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]130487[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
(No surprise either that the IMBB closed down because the moderators got too lazy)
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Not entirely sure that's fair. Moderating an official forum is hard to do when you have to appease management of a band at the same time.
 
[!--quoteo(post=130489:date=Mar 3 2006, 12:21 PM:name=Conor)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Conor @ Mar 3 2006, 12:21 PM) [snapback]130489[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--] This is serious indeed. Let's make everyone a moderator to fight back the onslaught!! [/quote]
That was not really the action I was thinking of, but a couple more wouldn't hurt. [/quote]


Damn! My dreams of infinite power come crashing down. [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":P\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /] [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":P\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /] [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":P\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /]


[img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":P\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /] <-- see that? it means I'm joking!
 
[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]Can I also make this very clear right now. IF this is true about the official forum becoming fan club only then we will undoubtably get a lot of people joining here instead. This should not be treated as an invasion. Every member of that forum is welcome here until they put a foot out of line regardless of what anyone thinks of them. We will have enough moderation to cope with it with the advantage that we dont have the management of Iron Maiden to answer to. If any member of this forum attacks new members when they join they're the ones likely to be the ones thrown off the forum not the newbies. I don't want any grudges being carried over to here. I like this forum for the peacful community of like minded individuals it is. I don't want it to become the old lot vs the invaders [/rant]
Not entirely sure that's fair. Moderating an official forum is hard to do when you have to appease management of a band at the same time.
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Completely with you there too. Of course anyone's welcome, and I really think we should be careful with any prejudiced behaviour. Being the pc arse I am, I think that an IMBB poster is able to adapt to the environment of this board, and the moderators (and normal posters!) should be welcoming and helpful, and not appear like soldiers making their stand (my last post with the picture of the Maginot defenses is only a dumb joke and hopefully considered as such). However, in order to keep this BB as pleasant as it is, any IMBB refugees must be aware of the Forum Rules.
 
I have to withdraw my former statement about the changes on the IMBB.

[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]I'm afraid this forum will be closing for good on the 7th March.

The Iron Maiden web team have decided to focus on improving their online services for fanclub members from now on.

We'd like to take the opportunity to thank everyone who's made this a vibrant community over the years, and especially the moderators for their hard and thankless work in trying to protect the interests of the majority from the trolls and the spammers.

Please use the remaining days the board is up to save anything you wish to keep.

Good luck to every one of you, those who join us on the fanclub site and those who go elsewhere.


All the best

Skunk, signing off.[/quote]

At the same time, some fans opened a new board that is supposed to be a replica of the IMBB: http://s10.invisionfree.com/Maiden_fans_united/
 
[!--quoteo(post=130502:date=Mar 3 2006, 11:25 AM:name=Real World)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Real World @ Mar 3 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]130502[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
I therefore decree (dependant on approval from the others) a new round of elections for moderators from the European time zone or and/or Australasian time zone
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My only concern with this idea is that we verify the location of any candidates by looking up their IPs. We need to guard against people who might want to be a mod, and therefore lie to get into the election.

[!--quoteo(post=130502:date=Mar 3 2006, 11:25 AM:name=Real World)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Real World @ Mar 3 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]130502[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
...This should not be treated as an invasion. Every member of that forum is welcome here until they put a foot out of line regardless of what anyone thinks of them...
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Agreed. And if some moderators (like Mav and myself) who have a tendency to be mean to n00bs get out of line, I encourage every member of this forum to correct us.

After all, let's face facts here. Although I haven't been a frequent visitor of the IMBB, every time I have visited I've seen that the vast bulk of the posts are of a considerably lower quality than what we typically see at Maidenfans. So sooner or later, if that type of posting becomes common here, I'm likely to snap despite my best efforts. If and when that happens, I want everyone here to reprimand me. Stop me before I flame again! [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/biggrin.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":D\" border=\"0\" alt=\"biggrin.gif\" /]

A relevant quote from the movie Patton:
Lt. Col. Codman: I'll give you a gentle nudge in the ribs.
Gen. Patton: No - give me a swift kick in the ass.
Quote is from memory, my apologies if I got a word or two wrong.

[!--quoteo(post=130502:date=Mar 3 2006, 11:25 AM:name=Real World)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Real World @ Mar 3 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]130502[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
Moderating an official forum is hard to do when you have to appease management of a band at the same time.
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This may well be true; in fact, I'll take your word for it because I know you have experience in this area. But there is no disputing that moderation of the IMBB was notoriously slack. Maybe we can all agree that the fault for this may have laid elsewhere than with the mods or webmasters, but the slackness was there nonetheless.
 
Let's face it, however many good posters will seek asylum here from the blaze-bashers and trolls, there are always going to be at least 10 trolls. Like the hordes of Orcs they shall invade and burn all they find, killing the women and children where they stand... [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":P\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /]

Okay, just joking. I'm pretty open-minded, and from my brief time on the IMBB, there were quite a few good posters there. But we are going to have to keep a close eye on new posters-if one person starts posting stupid threads, others may soon follow. Perhaps we should have a clean-up of useless threads before then? I realise the mods are overworked and don't have time to do trivial things like this, but it would certainly streamline the boards if we do get new members. And maybe we should try to filter out some of the anti-IMBB posts that are abundant in the boards. Actually, while we're at it, why don't we solve world poverty, get Bush and Bin Laden to shake hands and get the demoninations in Northern Ireland to live together in peace [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":P\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /]

I think the moderator team will be fine, even if we do get an influx of new posters. I'm still with Perun becoming a mod (I never realised he wasn't). Even though I secretly suspect a religious uprising by Perun, SMX, LC and Mav to cruelly indoctrine us in the dogma of the false church of H [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":P\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /]. Still, the more the merrier, I say, especially since Perun has put a lot of time and effort into his posts on the boards here, keeping us all interested and informed.
 
[!--quoteo(post=130512:date=Mar 3 2006, 07:38 PM:name=SinisterMinisterX)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(SinisterMinisterX @ Mar 3 2006, 07:38 PM) [snapback]130512[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--] But there is no disputing that moderation of the IMBB was notoriously slack. Maybe we can all agree that the fault for this may have laid elsewhere than with the mods or webmasters, but the slackness was there nonetheless.
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I've never posted on the IMBB, and after the sories told on this board I don't think I ever will. However, I seriously doubt that the moderating could be much worse than on the BFMV forum.....*shudders*
 
[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]The IMBB is closing down and in the future will be a fanclub only forum[/quote]

[!--quoteo(post=130519:date=Mar 3 2006, 09:11 PM:name=Ascendancy)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Ascendancy @ Mar 3 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]130519[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
I've never posted on the IMBB, and after the sories told on this board I don't think I ever will.
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:: I suggest reading the threads before posting in them [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/sleep.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\"-_-\" border=\"0\" alt=\"sleep.gif\" /]

Edit: http://www.ironmaiden.org/showthread.php?t=82238
 
[!--quoteo(post=130516:date=Mar 3 2006, 12:59 PM:name=Silky)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Silky @ Mar 3 2006, 12:59 PM) [snapback]130516[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
Perhaps we should have a clean-up of useless threads before then?
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And who is to decide what is useless? Our general moderation philosophy is to allow freedom of speech, only banning offensive (e.g. racist etc.) posts.

I will state the following now, as fair warning to all:
1. I will only consider a thread to be "useless" if the topic is a duplicate of an existing (and recent) thread. In that case, I will merge the threads (unless another mod beats me to it).
2. Threads which descend into nonsense will be moved into the spam forum. I won't delete threads often, but I may move them around if they're in the wrong forum.

[!--quoteo(post=130516:date=Mar 3 2006, 12:59 PM:name=Silky)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Silky @ Mar 3 2006, 12:59 PM) [snapback]130516[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
Even though I secretly suspect a religious uprising by Perun, SMX, LC and Mav to cruelly indoctrine us in the dogma of the false church of H [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":P\" border=\"0\" alt=\"tongue.gif\" /].
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Drat! Our secret plan has been uncovered! [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/biggrin.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":D\" border=\"0\" alt=\"biggrin.gif\" /]
 
Seems the "ignorance" in the title of the topic that I opened is definitely out of place, at the moment.
 
Naww, Hoss. I'm still ig'nant. After all, I did "graduate" from a US public high school. It's a wonder I can tie my own shoes! ::
 
I'm all in favour of a European time zone election, but I agree...it needs to be done quickly.

As for Australasian, let's wait and see how many people we get in that region. Fact of the matter is that I and SMX are up fairly late and Maverick is up early, so we may not need to cover that zone.

Yet.
 
Black Dragon is right! reading all of this got me in the mood for some Hammerfall! or better Yet... BLIND GUARDIAN's Nightfall over Middle Earth!!!
 
I voted Yes....


Perun said he'd send me $5 for doing that BTW.


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OK I think this has run its course for now. Perun has nominated himself along with others for the job and on the 7th we'll formally open elections for the role
 
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