Ozzy Osbourne Rants Against Bruce Dickinson

I think Bruce saved himself a bit though by not making further comments after the fallout. Bruce is well known for his rants on a number of subjects, sometimes we say the wrong thing at the wrong time and I think Bruce would probably admit that now and probably even straight after he said it.
Bruce could have made further attacks after Eggfest but he chose not to.

Maiden left this subject long ago and we I think we all should too. We all know what happened, who did what and there is nothing much to say other than it was poor play by both sides.

As for Ozzy, well anyone can be misled or have words put in their mouth. I'm pretty sure Ozzy didn't have the view of events that we all did. Frankly its disappointing that the media or Ozzy want to bring it back up. I know its a journalists' job to ask stuff like that, but its all so pointless. We aren't learning anything new, just causing more crap to be thrown. Its all very tiresome.
 
Who said I sympathized with Sharon? I'm not. (Remember every time I said she and her folk were wrong?) They started the whole thing with the t-shirt. I'm saying that Bruce could have chosen to be a smarter fellow and not respond to that sort of insult, rather than get all fired up. Bruce decided to slag on them. He didn't have to. You keep treating Bruce like he's a dog, just doing what he does. He knew it would piss them off and he didn't have to voice those opinions.

Am I suggesting Bruce should have self-censored? Yeah…I am. A bit. Because sometimes it's the smarter, more adult move to hold your tongue.
 
LooseCannon said:
You keep treating Bruce like he's a dog, just doing what he does. He knew it would piss them off and he didn't have to voice those opinions.
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You keep acting as if Bruce shoots off without intending to create a reaction. When he finally does, only then shoud he shut up.
 
That's fine. He's allowed to create a response…the problem is that he was baiting someone who was hosting him on tour. Would you shoot off at me if I invited you over, even if I had said something that could be a little foolish? Possibly, and then maybe I'd throw you out.

Ardius said:
I think Bruce saved himself a bit though by not making further comments after the fallout. Bruce is well known for his rants on a number of subjects, sometimes we say the wrong thing at the wrong time and I think Bruce would probably admit that now and probably even straight after he said it.
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Yes, I agree here, Ardius…Bruce probably realized things had gone too far, and Maiden wants that particular incident behind them.
 
It's interesting to see that this discussion is turning into a discussion between:

A: people who find the reasons why Bruce had a big mouth more important than the big mouth itself
B: people who find Bruce's big mouth more important than his reasons (or at least as important)


I am in category A. The things the organizers did were untolerable, thus a certain person -who is not an asslicker of the boss- is qualified to say what he thinks of it.
 
LooseCannon said:
That's fine. He's allowed to create a response…the problem is that he was baiting someone who was hosting him on tour. Would you shoot off at me if I invited you over, even if I had said something that could be a little foolish? Possibly, and then maybe I'd throw you out.
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Quote where he shoots off at Ozzy.

And If I drop a hook in the water, I would think the fish is the dummy for biting it.

But my logic is off, hence the lack of responses to the points I make.
 
Again, Ozzy's not a fish, he's a person. Bruce shot off at reality TV stars, which at the time, included Ozzy. How would you feel if someone got up and shot off about people who love Iron Maiden in a group that included 50 old people and you? Probably like I was talking right at you.
 
LooseCannon said:
Again, Ozzy's not a fish, he's a person. Bruce shot off at reality TV stars, which at the time, included Ozzy. How would you feel if someone got up and shot off about people who love Iron Maiden in a group that included 50 old people and you? Probably like I was talking right at you.
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All you are doing is trying to combat large, broad strokes with a measly, little thin one. I've made several points, asked several questions and even mentioned your lack of responding to them, and all you do is say the same thing over and over again.

The one thing I hate though, is my messy typing with all the little typos. I have to keep editing shit.
 
Yeah, I'm at work, so, I'm sorry if my replies are shorter than you'd like. If I ignored a few points it was in order to create more concise replies. I just think that Bruce acted in a manner that was unprofessional, at best, even if people were being unprofessional to him (which they were).
 
LooseCannon said:
Yeah, I'm at work, so, I'm sorry if my replies are shorter than you'd like. If I ignored a few points it was in order to create more concise replies. I just think that Bruce acted in a manner that was unprofessional, at best, even if people were being unprofessional to him (which they were).
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Alrighty then.
 
I guess we have to. I can go on about the slightest of things, but it ain't fun when the other side drops out. All done.
 
You know what, not getting into an argument over who said what or anything, but if you're a public figure, you need to be able to take some detraction without whigging out about it. I mean, it IS show business.
 
LooseCannon said:
Yeah, I'm at work, so, I'm sorry if my replies are shorter than you'd like. If I ignored a few points it was in order to create more concise replies. I just think that Bruce acted in a manner that was unprofessional, at best, even if people were being unprofessional to him (which they were).
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Bruce was definitely a bit unprofessional, even if it was only in his choice of targets.  But we have failed to mention Sharons ridiculous idea that Bruce waving the Union Jack during the trooper was somehow disrespectful to the American troops in Iraq.  She is English, she should be fully aware that there are British troops there too.  Her response to Bruces unprofessional behavior was far in excess of an appropriate response.
Think about it, if someone punches you in the face, it isn't a proper response to shoot them in the chest and then beat up their family is it?  Much exaggerated, but bruce shot barbs at the tour organizers, regardless of how thinly veiled they were (the punch).  However, sharon took her anger out on not only bruce and the band (the gunshot) but in the process ruined a show for thousands of paying fans (beating up the family).  To add icing to the cake, not only did she come out on stage afterwards to talk even more smack, she continued to press the issue after the fact as some sort of bizarre justification for her actions.
 
infinitedreams7thson said:
Bruce was definitely a bit unprofessional, even if it was only in his choice of targets.  But we have failed to mention Sharons ridiculous idea that Bruce waving the Union Jack during the trooper was somehow disrespectful to the American troops in Iraq.  She is English, she should be fully aware that there are British troops there too.  Her response to Bruces unprofessional behavior was far in excess of an appropriate response.
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Where were the Americans in the Crimean War? Fucking slackers.
 
Bruce Dickinson: Shouldn't have said those things at Ozzy's own tour.  It was uncalled for.  Luckily, I love his music and don't give a shit if he is an asshole sometimes. 

Sharon: Dumb bitch shouldn't have sabotaged the concert like that.  Unfair to the rest of the band, and to the fans.

Ozzy: He did nothing wrong.  He's a cool guy.  Yeah, he's way past his prime and should retire, but why not keep making money if people will pay for your name?  I think he was just trying to play it off by saying he didn't know anything about this occurence.  But...he is pretty braindead, so who knows. 
 
LooseCannon said:
Where were the Americans in the Crimean War? Fucking slackers.
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Lol, excellent question,  obviously not charging russian artillery.  It made me so mad when I first read about her saying that.  I study history pretty intensely and I was dumbfounded.  Plus factor in that bruce did that same flag waving when my dad saw them on the World Piece Tour, which unless I am wrong (I am not) was long before the COALITION went into Iraq (not gonna get involved in any discussions on that nasty subject).

All in all, I think Bruce was just trolling the festival.  And if Sharon knew anything about the internet, she would know to ignore trolls.  Bruce wants a reaction when he says things like that on stage and usually its positive (including the crowd reaction to his rants in '05), but he also got a negative reaction from sharon (who I absolutely abhor.)
 
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