Nicko's drumming technique

I love the drumming on AMOLAD as well, it's so musical and varied! And yeah, that old Ludwig snare of his sounds amazing, even better than it did in the 80s.

I do think he has a lot of pop/funk sensibilities when it comes to phrasing, but the way he fills and accents with every little syncopated lick in the melody is just so jazzy! It's definitely a winning, unique formula.
 
Here's a piece I wrote for Maiden Revelations on Nicko's live performances, check it out!

http://maidenrevelations.com/2013/11/03/best-worst-mcbrains-live-performances/

Interesting. I was thinking that he couldn't keep up when I watched Rock am Ring 2014 on Youtube. Something has definitely happened, and I didn't like it. The whole band just seemed off, and Nicko certainly does not play like he used to, either on the recorded performance or when I saw them in Stockholm 2013. Watching Maiden England '88, the band is at least tight, even if the tempos are a bit too fast. I'd take too fast over falling over backwards any day.

My favourite live performance by Nicko is "Lord of the Flies" from Death on the Road. The way he sets off into the verse-riff after the intro is insane. I don't know if it's good drumming or not, but nothing compares in pure energy.
 
I hate that version, for it's annoying messy intro. Musically, the worst officially released live performance of the last 20 years, easily.
 
Here's a piece I wrote for Maiden Revelations on Nicko's live performances, check it out!

http://maidenrevelations.com/2013/11/03/best-worst-mcbrains-live-performances/
Nice!

Have to confess I disagree with your take on Revelations. That's the way the song was played those days, and Nicko was not the (only) one to decide on that speed, was he? I am used to everything he did on LAD and never thought that fill was annoying. Didn't you feel like posting an example of this:
Whether he is merely being diplomatic to Adrian, telling the truth, or somewhere in between, one thing is for sure: Nicko’s playing on the Maiden England tour has been…different. Wasted Years sometimes got close to falling over backwards,
or do you think his recent playing is better than your top 3?

His mistakes on Prowler (the "big bang" accents) in 2005 and Brighter than a Thousand Suns (fast part) are among my worst Nicko moments, next to his slow playing.
 
Nice!

Have to confess I disagree with your take on Revelations. That's the way the song was played those days, and Nicko was not the (only) one to decide on that speed, was he? I am used to everything he did on LAD and never thought that fill was annoying. Didn't you feel like posting an example of this:
or do you think his recent playing is better than your top 3?

His mistakes on Prowler (the "big bang" accents) in 2005 and Brighter than a Thousand Suns (fast part) are among my worst Nicko moments, next to his slow playing.

To be honest, I was trying to stick to officialy released material! And I am a fan of his restraint some newer tunes, to be honest, especially The Prisoner and TETMD. I'd like to have a full, official release to really dig into before I make a judgement call, but right now I'd say his playing from 2001-2009 is probably my favorite.
 
Yes. Janick's guitar. See also this post and further down.
http://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/lord-of-the-flies.4268/page-4#post-435854
Sara's answer also shines light on it. She thinks its an extra Adrian guitar line that makes it sound messier. Plus there's the downtuning aspect I dislike.

plus:
Another disturbing aspect: When that intro comes back, Janick (or more people) and Nicko are not in sync with each other.
So, enough reasons for me to dislike this version.
 
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There's a lot of wrong information there.

The song (studio recording) is not in Em, but in F#m - except for the intro, which is in Em. Death on the Road version is transposed to Em, and to play it that way they did not tune down the guitars, but rather modify the intro, which is now in Dm. They took the interlude part from before the solo and inserted it as the new intro, but a step down from the rest of the song. (The change to the intro happened already with Blaze, I don't think they ever played the album version of the song live.)

They are most definitely playing in E Standard tuning. As for why they transposed it, I'm glad they played it and were wise enough to let Bruce do something new with it - if "Man on the Edge" on The Wicker Man single B-side tells us anything, it's that Bruce can hardly sing with the same power as Blaze do in his strong registers. The rule is that the key is always changed to fit the singer, and for once they were able/willing to do so. The added guitar (Adrian) is modification of Dave's part on the album version, one octave higher. They do modifications of older songs all the time, so it's hardly something new.

As for the timing-aspects, it is one of the reasons why I like the Death on the Road version more. The tempo is interpreted quite freely, with tempo changes between sections (most notably intro to verse change) and after going up, it goes down again after the chorus. It just flows so much better than the rather stiff album version. So what if there's a moment when someone isn't in sync, the song hardly falls over. Again, nothing new concerning the band.

Janick's playing is certainly messy, but I'm not distracted by the timing problems or the out-of-tune bends in the solo. It's such an energetic performance that it far outdoes anything else on the DVD in sheer excitement. To me, that's what Iron Maiden is about.
 
I always thought that Niko could do better in some of the recent studio albums.I think that Steve always tried to make him play simpler.I remember Niko saying that in oneof his interviews for FOTD.As a matter of fact I can't even losten to some of the songs due to his playing.No more lies easily comes in mind.Fortunes of war and The pilgrim are prime examples as well.I never really got why he is so bad on Starblind....an otherwise excelent song.Keeping this 7/8 tempo with no other drum fills or something at least a bit tastefull is driving me crazy.And what's up with him in the Nomad and TMHWBK? It is everytime that Steve uses this -palm mutted chords over drums - song part that Niko is just plain boring.At times I thought that he just plays straight in case they need to have the song edited for a single release.Anyway,he does a pretty good job to some songs,e.g.BTATS and DOD,Lord of Light.All in all he has improved in the latest albums -compared to his mostly awful performance in VXI - but I feel that even in different parts of the same song he isn't even.
 
I never really got why he is so bad on Starblind....an otherwise excelent song.Keeping this 7/8 tempo with no other drum fills or something at least a bit tastefull is driving me crazy.

Starblind is in 4/4, not 7/8. It's a very syncopated rhythm, but 4/4 nonetheless.

I do agree about Nicko's drums being by far the weak point in that song. They do get annoying because it's so repetitive.
 
I don't agree in the slightest. "Starblind" probably is the 'loosest' song Maiden has ever done - there's guitar licks all over the verses, and the song needs steady, repetitive drumming not to sound like an intersection with broken traffic lights at rush hour.
 
Starblind is in 4/4, not 7/8. It's a very syncopated rhythm, but 4/4 nonetheless.
I thought he was referring to the part at about 4 minutes where it switches to 7/4. That part is pretty repetitive in the drum department, especially compared to the 7/4 in Isle of Avalon which has a far more interesting groove. But yea, it applies to the whole song really.
 
Well,my bad.I have no idea about music theory guys.However it is a mystery to me how can a band like Maiden be happy with some of their song sections nowadays.It sometimes feels as if a different drummer plays in different sections of the same song.I mean it almost makes me mad to hear Niko play in certain parts of The thin line,no more lies,TMWWBK,FTGGOG.Some parts are incredibly good and some incredibly bad.......in the same song. And then again we had complete albums without a single drum fill.Does VXI ring a bell?It is amazing how they managed to get away with it.
 
I don't agree in the slightest. "Starblind" probably is the 'loosest' song Maiden has ever done - there's guitar licks all over the verses, and the song needs steady, repetitive drumming not to sound like an intersection with broken traffic lights at rush hour.

I get your point.....but I just can't even stress enough how much I am annoyed by the drums.
 
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