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Cheers for posting that, a very interesting read. I love all the "inside stuff" and people telling how it really was, look forward to reading more.
 
Greetings all,

Most of it is fun to read but (and there was bound to be a but) you sound like a sour man to me. If you are correct and are part of creating Killers, be proud of it. In fact be very proud of it. If you are correct on the disc thing, just shut up. That would something between Harris and you. No need for others to know about it.

But what I disliked most is the part that ,in short, is telling that Burr was an ass to you. Finishing with saying you do not wish to discredit him. You can have written it prior to his death but you publish it now. He has no way of defending himself now. You should (in my opinion) have published it when he was around or not at all.

Warhurst
 
Warhurst said:
Greetings all,

Most of it is fun to read but (and there was bound to be a but) you sound like a sour man to me. If you are correct and are part of creating Killers, be proud of it. In fact be very proud of it. If you are correct on the disc thing, just shut up. That would something between Harris and you. No need for others to know about it.

But what I disliked most is the part that ,in short, is telling that Burr was an ass to you. Finishing with saying you do not wish to discredit him. You can have written it prior to his death but you publish it now. He has no way of defending himself now. You should (in my opinion) have published it when he was around or not at all.

Warhurst
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I knew this was coming, but I will not shy away from it. What I posted was the truth, and I don't expect everyone to agree with my comments. But it's the truth and I stick with it. Sour man, me? Do I know you?
 
loopyworld said:
I knew this was coming, but I will not shy away from it. What I posted was the truth, and I don't expect everyone to agree with my comments. But it's the truth and I stick with it. Sour man, me? Do I know you?
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And as for publishing my post when he was around? Think about it for a second, or however long you like. How am I, or anybody else for that matter, supposed to know when someone dies? As I said, think about it.
 
I just read it.

This sounds like an openhearted story of someone who worked with Clive Burr. There clearly was to be some sort of a (communication) problem, and Loopy tells this from his perspective. What I understand from his story is that Clive did not explain (well enough) what was wrong (in Clive's eyes) with the drum set-up. A possibility is that nothing was wrong with the set-up (as Loopy described) and that Clive sought some excuse to be negative to Loopy. He may have been annoyed about something else but he never made that clear.

I can certainly understand the frustration when someone, almost autistically, keeps saying something that does not make any sense. It's logical that this experience was a vital matter during Loopy's time in Maiden. Thus logical it's in the story.

About Clive's death... It happens more often that things come out when the person involved does not live anymore. Let's not get too angry about that! Even if Clive was still alive, I am not sure if he'd even read or known this, or if he would feel the need or have the power to respond. Are all these circumstances a reason to censor a story? No.

I enjoyed this very much Loopy, thanks again!
 
Greetings all,

@ Loopyworld: Do I know you? No I do not. I just read your story and based my opinion upon your story.

I think most members of this forum would love to be present at the birth of a new Maiden song. Even better you had a hand in it. That is something to remember. But for me you killed (no pun intended) the story by telling that Harris promised you something and never made it happen. That is something for the two of you. I do not say that what you wrote has not happened. You were there, I was not.

As for the Burr part. I did think about it. Even gave it another thought after your reaction. I still think you should have expressed them earlier. After all you had it all written down months before he passed away. I am not implying that you waited to bring it out in the open until he was not around anymore. I just think that there has been plenty of time te rewrite the story a bit. Something like: our personalities did not match. We were unable to connect or something similar. To avoid making him look like an ass. But that is just me. The fact that you were asked to join them again once McBrain was around should say enough of your skills. The would not have if you were below par.

Perhaps it is strange if you see the above but (I do love saying but) I do enjoy reading your stories most the most part. Most likely they are even better stories when they are being told. Is there any chance that there will be an audio version as well?

Warhurst
 
Well, when people say personalities don't match or when people or bands break up because personalities don't match, then I think that sounds vague (and unoriginal). Or at least, it still leaves open some questions. The story made an attempt to explain how that was experienced.

To offer more explanation sounds like a good thing to me; if this feels too private for some, then I understand the objection. But it's quite difficult to take into account with every reader.
 
Greetings all,

@ Forostar: What you may think of as vague and unoriginal might be very discreet to me. Indeed opinions can differ. I gave my opinion (rereading my initial post I must apologize to Loopyworld. Just shut up is inappropriate. I should not have written those words. Sorry Loopyworld).

Warhurst
 
Warhurst said:
Greetings all,

@ Loopyworld: Do I know you? No I do not. I just read your story and based my opinion upon your story.

I think most members of this forum would love to be present at the birth of a new Maiden song. Even better you had a hand in it. That is something to remember. But for me you killed (no pun intended) the story by telling that Harris promised you something and never made it happen. That is something for the two of you. I do not say that what you wrote has not happened. You were there, I was not.

As for the Burr part. I did think about it. Even gave it another thought after your reaction. I still think you should have expressed them earlier. After all you had it all written down months before he passed away. I am not implying that you waited to bring it out in the open until he was not around anymore. I just think that there has been plenty of time te rewrite the story a bit. Something like: our personalities did not match. We were unable to connect or something similar. To avoid making him look like an ass. But that is just me. The fact that you were asked to join them again once McBrain was around should say enough of your skills. The would not have if you were below par.

Perhaps it is strange if you see the above but (I do love saying but) I do enjoy reading your stories most the most part. Most likely they are even better stories when they are being told. Is there any chance that there will be an audio version as well?

Warhurst
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We are all entitled to our opinion, and I really value yours. The timing of the piece was not the best admittedly, but it was the next part of my story, which ever way you look at it. Clive's untimely death was not the reason I posted the blog, it would have happened anyway. I'm really sorry if it offended you or anyone else, but all I'm doing is writing a monthly blog for Metaltalk, and I'm doing it in time sequence. Unfortunately my latest blog was the one due for this Month. Warhurst, I didn't come on this page to make enemies, and I really understand what you are saying, but I could have ignored you and made you dislike me. That's not what this site is all about. Yes, have your opinion, that's ok, but you have to understand, I'm telling a story that lots of people haven't heard. This is my chance to let Millions of people know the true story. That's all I'm trying to do, spread the word. Peace mate. :-)
 
Warhurst said:
Greetings all,

@ Loopyworld: Do I know you? No I do not. I just read your story and based my opinion upon your story.

I think most members of this forum would love to be present at the birth of a new Maiden song. Even better you had a hand in it. That is something to remember. But for me you killed (no pun intended) the story by telling that Harris promised you something and never made it happen. That is something for the two of you. I do not say that what you wrote has not happened. You were there, I was not.

As for the Burr part. I did think about it. Even gave it another thought after your reaction. I still think you should have expressed them earlier. After all you had it all written down months before he passed away. I am not implying that you waited to bring it out in the open until he was not around anymore. I just think that there has been plenty of time te rewrite the story a bit. Something like: our personalities did not match. We were unable to connect or something similar. To avoid making him look like an ass. But that is just me. The fact that you were asked to join them again once McBrain was around should say enough of your skills. The would not have if you were below par.

Perhaps it is strange if you see the above but (I do love saying but) I do enjoy reading your stories most the most part. Most likely they are even better stories when they are being told. Is there any chance that there will be an audio version as well?

Warhurst
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An audio version. Now there's a thought. I'm sure something could be sorted out, but I wouldn't know where to start. In fact I received an email from a friend in Brazil yesterday, who had pieced all the blog together, and made it into a little book. Obviously the blogs aren't finished yet, but what a cool thing to own. Thank you Ricardo Lira, I know you are watching.
 
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