Moderator announcement: post deletion and personal messages

I might have drawn my conclusions on you (not reading what I say) to quick as well. Some stupid defense mechanism. I'm sorry for that picture as well, Onhell.

Conclusion: Initially I had problems with how some things were phrased in the opening post, but when I look at the consequences I don't see a huge difference between editing and deleting, and will surely get used to it (without bitching ;) ).
 
I've said it before, take a few breaths before posting something that is likely to be controversial - especially if you feel angered by the post you are replying too. And don't walk away and start mulling over it either, only to come back and post something angrier.

Get a spell checker as a browser add-in and re-read our posts before submitting it. Then we will all be happy.




This is not aimed at anyone in particular, but everyone. No-one likes flame wars. Least of all me. ;)
 
I've been on many other forums where deleting/locking threads and posts was NEVER allowed and it wasn't a problem. It's possible that reason some of you don't like it is because you're so used to having the feature available.
 
Forostar said:
@Genghis:
I don't mean that removing a post always means to show regret towards someone else. Sometimes I want to remove something because I find that tactically better, and there's a chance that a post is removed before someone else has read it. If someone has seen it (and I don't know that), and doesn't say anything, then I don't feel guilty either to remove it.

Ah, I understand you more now.  That makes sense to me.

Forostar said:
You say: The reading can't be undone. Could you explain what is so important about that? The point is the impact of a post, and the knowledge that the author has retrieved it for a reason.  

Important note in our reasoning here: the reading can't be undone either when a post is edited, instead of deleted.

That I do find important. When someone shows he is hurt, apologies could be very relieving. When someone doesn't show anything and/or the poster didn't have a clue, then there's an entire different story.

I wrote "reading" when I should have written "reading and responding".  Sorry for the confusion.  Your response was clear.
 
To better understand the reasoning behind our decision, I think two things that have been said in this thread deserve special emphasis:

LooseCannon said:
If you have said something and you feel the need to delete the entire post, you probably shouldn't have said it to begin with. Edit your post, or post a clarification. We're all adults here, or more accurately, we're all mature here, and we will understand if someone said something too far. We always have in the past.

Albie said:
I've said it before, take a few breaths before posting something that is likely to be controversial - especially if you feel angered by the post you are replying too. And don't walk away and start mulling over it either, only to come back and post something angrier.

This is all it's about, really.
 
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I have to be a nerdy prick here, but there is no such thing as "common sense." What may be common for some folks is incomprehensible to others. That said... yeah use your head.
 
In that regard, nothing has really changed.  Here, that has always been the case.  Now, we don't need to worry about missing threads.  Onhell doesn't need to go crazy and start running over people with his bicycle because he can't find the post that he is sure Wasted put 3 above him, but now is missing.  It may be blank, I may have "post under construction", but all the roadsigns of the convo will still be there. 
 
Ah, and now, that is very unlikely to happen -- the deleting part.  The bicycle part, well, that I expect to happen, due to your need for Natural Light.
 
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