Michael Jackson dead
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Nigel Tufnel
Ancient Mariner
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=7952215&page=1
http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/05/news/newsmakers/jackson_loan/index.htm
These two links are about the Beatle's Catalog....the first is of it's acquisition, the second is about the loan. Jackson did indeed snipe the catalog from McCartney. If I am incorrect, it is about the loan. The loan itself is shrouded in mystery, but the acqusistion is'nt.
But you are correct about McCartney choosing not to pursue it back in '85 and has been griping about ever since. He must be pissed about having to pay someone else to sing your own songs.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/05/news/newsmakers/jackson_loan/index.htm
These two links are about the Beatle's Catalog....the first is of it's acquisition, the second is about the loan. Jackson did indeed snipe the catalog from McCartney. If I am incorrect, it is about the loan. The loan itself is shrouded in mystery, but the acqusistion is'nt.
But you are correct about McCartney choosing not to pursue it back in '85 and has been griping about ever since. He must be pissed about having to pay someone else to sing your own songs.
Cornfed Hick
Ancient Mariner
I read somewhere that at least a dozen people around the world have committed or attempted suicide directly attributable to Michael Jackson's death. Crazy. Also, while I do feel bad for his family, as I would any family that lost a loved one, I am starting to get pretty damn irritated by all the news trucks and fans gathered around his family's home in my neighborhood, as it's totally fucking up traffic and making it impossible even to get groceries. I seriously think people are flying in from out of town to be part of the scene. I don't get it. I want to yell, "You didn't know him, he didn't know you, and he probably would have tried to molest your kids if he could." Needless to say, I'm a heartless bastard.
This thought crossed my mind today: Had all those people who now claim their lives have lost their meaning, and all those tabloids which claim that we lost the greatest artist ever, been this supportive and this kind to him a few years ago, maybe he would still be alive.
Just caught the end of the memorial service on TV when I got home from work. I hope they run it again tonight, it looks like it was good.
And I saw a great article about Thriller, here: How Michael Jackson's "Thriller" changed music business
Most people on this forum are too young to remember Thriller mania. Sure, by now you've all heart about it, but that's not the same thing...
Thriller can never happen again. No artist, anywhere, will ever sell 40 million copies in a single year again. Information sources were limited in 1983: no internet, no satellite radio, and cable TV was much weaker (only a couple dozen channels, and only about a third of the US had it). So it was easier for Michael Jackson to literally be everywhere at once. There was no website or reality show you could turn to; at times, it was Michael Jackson or nothing. In addition to great music, that's why he became so big, and it will never happen again.
I have a confession. I didn't really post much about Jackson when he died. Most of my posts were about the Beatles catalog. And that's because Jackson's death actually hit me pretty hard, and I just couldn't find the words for it.
When Thriller came out, I was 11 years old. Not only did I play it damn near every day, but so did every kid I knew. My friend Bubba who first turned me on to AC/DC played it every day. My friend Chuck who first turned me on to Kiss played it every day. My neighbor Randy who was into pop like Duran Duran played it every day. Thriller absolutely transcended genre; everyone had it and played it all the time.
In fact, now that I think about it, it was the first album by a black artist that I ever bought.
We didn't just listen to Thriller alone, of course. I remember going to lots of friends' houses and listening to it with them. Had plenty over to my house too. Of course this still goes on today, but the groups of friends are smaller because few modern albums are liked by everyone the was Thriller was.
So Thriller, for me, was much more than just a great album - I have tons of memories tied up around that music. Jackson's death brought all that stuff to mind; things I hadn't recalled in decades. And I had to just let all those memories roll around my brain for a while before I could really post about what Jackson's music meant to me (not just about the songs he owned).
Hell, I think I'll even go listen to it again now...
And I saw a great article about Thriller, here: How Michael Jackson's "Thriller" changed music business
Most people on this forum are too young to remember Thriller mania. Sure, by now you've all heart about it, but that's not the same thing...
Thriller can never happen again. No artist, anywhere, will ever sell 40 million copies in a single year again. Information sources were limited in 1983: no internet, no satellite radio, and cable TV was much weaker (only a couple dozen channels, and only about a third of the US had it). So it was easier for Michael Jackson to literally be everywhere at once. There was no website or reality show you could turn to; at times, it was Michael Jackson or nothing. In addition to great music, that's why he became so big, and it will never happen again.
I have a confession. I didn't really post much about Jackson when he died. Most of my posts were about the Beatles catalog. And that's because Jackson's death actually hit me pretty hard, and I just couldn't find the words for it.
When Thriller came out, I was 11 years old. Not only did I play it damn near every day, but so did every kid I knew. My friend Bubba who first turned me on to AC/DC played it every day. My friend Chuck who first turned me on to Kiss played it every day. My neighbor Randy who was into pop like Duran Duran played it every day. Thriller absolutely transcended genre; everyone had it and played it all the time.
In fact, now that I think about it, it was the first album by a black artist that I ever bought.
We didn't just listen to Thriller alone, of course. I remember going to lots of friends' houses and listening to it with them. Had plenty over to my house too. Of course this still goes on today, but the groups of friends are smaller because few modern albums are liked by everyone the was Thriller was.
So Thriller, for me, was much more than just a great album - I have tons of memories tied up around that music. Jackson's death brought all that stuff to mind; things I hadn't recalled in decades. And I had to just let all those memories roll around my brain for a while before I could really post about what Jackson's music meant to me (not just about the songs he owned).
Hell, I think I'll even go listen to it again now...
Actually Perun, there was one other, but it was much earlier...
The Beatles, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The type of stories I told about Thriller above apply equally well to my father's generation and that particular Beatles album. It was a record that changed lives and was the centerpiece of memories. What that album was to the summer of 1967 = what Thriller was to the summer of 1983.
The differences?
The first ten reasons Thriller was bigger: MTV.
Also, the Beatles' music didn't have the cross-generational appeal Thriller had. Most of the WWII generation disliked the Beatles, and a lot of young'uns today don't like them either. But I've never seen any generational bias against Jackson.
One more thing that shows how big Thriller was for me...
Name a random year from the 80's, and I'll often think: "What was I doing then? What year of school was I in? Where was I living?" (I lived in four different cities in the 80s.)
But if that year is 1983, my brain skips all that and "Thriller" is usually the first word my brain comes up with. (The second is "Synchronicity".)
The Beatles, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The type of stories I told about Thriller above apply equally well to my father's generation and that particular Beatles album. It was a record that changed lives and was the centerpiece of memories. What that album was to the summer of 1967 = what Thriller was to the summer of 1983.
The differences?
The first ten reasons Thriller was bigger: MTV.
Also, the Beatles' music didn't have the cross-generational appeal Thriller had. Most of the WWII generation disliked the Beatles, and a lot of young'uns today don't like them either. But I've never seen any generational bias against Jackson.
One more thing that shows how big Thriller was for me...
Name a random year from the 80's, and I'll often think: "What was I doing then? What year of school was I in? Where was I living?" (I lived in four different cities in the 80s.)
But if that year is 1983, my brain skips all that and "Thriller" is usually the first word my brain comes up with. (The second is "Synchronicity".)
My father's story about Sgt. Pepper is basically this:
Every day in the summer of 1967, he got together with friends and listened to that album. Every day, never missing one. And when they listened, they really listened: trying to detect new sounds or meanings they hadn't heard before. My father also said everyone his age was listening like that.
You might think: 1967, so they were on drugs, right? My father was 20 years old at the time, so he would have been at that age...
NO. My father has never done any drugs, not even smoking pot, not even once. He was as straight as straight can get. In a time when most college students (like he was) were protesting Vietman, he was ROTC. And most of his friends were equally straight. For that generation, the Beatles weren't just hippie music. Everyone listened.
Pretty much what happened with Thriller, 16 years later.
Every day in the summer of 1967, he got together with friends and listened to that album. Every day, never missing one. And when they listened, they really listened: trying to detect new sounds or meanings they hadn't heard before. My father also said everyone his age was listening like that.
You might think: 1967, so they were on drugs, right? My father was 20 years old at the time, so he would have been at that age...
NO. My father has never done any drugs, not even smoking pot, not even once. He was as straight as straight can get. In a time when most college students (like he was) were protesting Vietman, he was ROTC. And most of his friends were equally straight. For that generation, the Beatles weren't just hippie music. Everyone listened.
Pretty much what happened with Thriller, 16 years later.
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
Huh, that sounds a lot like what my friends and I did 10 years ago with Metallica... just sit at a table in my friend's basement and listen to the Black Album, "Ride the Lightning," etc. After Djing for 2 years only ONCE have people walked of the dance floor when I play a Michael Jackson song, really weird too. More often than not they actually get in a circle and have dance-offs, pretty cool to watch.
) be there to fully understand what it's like.