Maiden Tour 2014 (NO SPOILER TAGS, ENTER AT OWN RISK)

I absolutely adore Revelations, and I'm glad it's back in the setlist, but damn am I disappointed they weren't more thorough and adventurous. Only three songs are new, and two of them are overplayed throwaways? Blech. Really starting to lose my faith in these guys.
 
I question the criteria that goes into the selection: is it mix of what Steve likes to play and what he thinks the fans love?
 
I think a big part of it now is the huge success they had with this tour in 2012 and 2013. Makes sense they wouldn't want to mess with the formula too much. It's just a shame they feel we NEED every single "hit" in every setlist, on every leg, at every show. Though it may be great for casual (festival) fans, it sure as hell waters down the impact of certain songs and makes things predictable for those of us who have been following the band for a while.
 
Taking out The Clairvoyant for Wrathchild? WTF? I actually thought to myself that it wouldn't surprise me if they did throw in WC, but they could have put it in place of something else. Now this tour represents even less of Maiden England.
 
Isn't the whole point of changing up the setlist to make things better?

Revelations instead of Afraid to Shoot Strangers: A push, as both are very good songs.
Wrathchild instead of Clairvoyant: Definitely a weaker choice, as WC is WAAAAY overplayed for live Maiden
Sanctuary instead of Running Free: I like both songs, but RF is a far better show closer.

Throw in the fact that the Maiden England tour setlist as a whole wasn't that adventurous (aside from AFTSS and SSOASS), and you have a fairly mediocre"hits" tour from the late 80's. I'd rather have seen them break out Infinite Dreams, or Killers, or Still Life--three great songs from the Maiden England Video that were not commonly played. Since I missed the 2008-2009 Somewhere Back in Time tour, I had seen some songs I had not seen in a long time--or ever in 2012 (Aces High, CIPWM, Moonchild, Wasted Years), but if I had seen that show live, I would have been much more disappointed with the setlist--and even more disappointed with this one.
 
CrimsonEmotions said:
Isn't the whole point of changing up the setlist to make things better?

Revelations instead of Afraid to Shoot Strangers: A push, as both are very good songs.
Wrathchild instead of Clairvoyant: Definitely a weaker choice, as WC is WAAAAY overplayed for live Maiden
Sanctuary instead of Running Free: I like both songs, but RF is a far better show closer.

Throw in the fact that the Maiden England tour setlist as a whole wasn't that adventurous (aside from AFTSS and SSOASS), and you have a fairly mediocre"hits" tour from the late 80's. I'd rather have seen them break out Infinite Dreams, or Killers, or Still Life--three great songs from the Maiden England Video that were not commonly played. Since I missed the 2008-2009 Somewhere Back in Time tour, I had seen some songs I had not seen in a long time--or ever in 2012 (Aces High, CIPWM, Moonchild, Wasted Years), but if I had seen that show live, I would have been much more disappointed with the setlist--and even more disappointed with this one.
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That's exactly how I feel. I was lucky enough to see the band in 2008 and 2010. This meant the only new songs for me in 2012 were The Prisoner, ATSS, Seventh Son and The Evil That Men Do. Now, while I do understand that 1) that each retro tour brings loads of new fans who may have not seen the regulars (Trooper, NOTB, 2 Minutes, etc.), and 2) Maiden does still take chances on some tours (such as playing mostly newer material in 2010), the fact that they still rely on the same tiny core of songs to build their 80s tours means that so many great tunes that are equally "classic" never see the light of day. You'd think they would want to celebrate some of these great tunes while they still have the chance.

I just hope they're creative enough to put together a more interesting set when they go out again in support of a new album. I don't know if I'd pay $90 to see a show consisting of 2/3rds repeat material again.
 
Lego said:
That's exactly how I feel. I was lucky enough to see the band in 2008 and 2010. This meant the only new songs for me in 2012 were The Prisoner, ATSS, Seventh Son and The Evil That Men Do. Now, while I do understand that 1) that each retro tour brings loads of new fans who may have not seen the regulars (Trooper, NOTB, 2 Minutes, etc.), and 2) Maiden does still take chances on some tours (such as playing mostly newer material in 2010), the fact that they still rely on the same tiny core of songs to build their 80s tours means that so many great tunes that are equally "classic" never see the light of day. You'd think they would want to celebrate some of these great tunes while they still have the chance.

I just hope they're creative enough to put together a more interesting set when they go out again in support of a new album. I don't know if I'd pay $90 to see a show consisting of 2/3rds repeat material again.
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Typically when they tour for an album, they pretty much do the standard classics live (Iron Maiden, HBTN, NotB, FotD), with a bit of variation in some of the standards (Trooper, Two Minutes). They generally don't get to adventurous, but they do focus more on their newer material than other bands that have been around. I have to admit that it took a lot of balls to do all of A Matter of Life and Death, especially in America where fans don't get the extensive IM tours--and had missed out almost entirely on the Dance of Death tour, and got a shortened set for most US shows on the Early Days tour in 2005 (playing Ozzfest). But to do an entirely new album when many fans just want to hear the classics is really ballsy in this day and age.
 
CrimsonEmotions said:
Typically when they tour for an album, they pretty much do the standard classics live (Iron Maiden, HBTN, NotB, FotD), with a bit of variation in some of the standards (Trooper, Two Minutes). They generally don't get to adventurous, but they do focus more on their newer material than other bands that have been around. I have to admit that it took a lot of balls to do all of A Matter of Life and Death, especially in America where fans don't get the extensive IM tours--and had missed out almost entirely on the Dance of Death tour, and got a shortened set for most US shows on the Early Days tour in 2005 (playing Ozzfest). But to do an entirely new album when many fans just want to hear the classics is really ballsy in this day and age.
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I agree, and so was performing a setlist of mainly post-2000 material in 2010. But you know what, those setlists worked! It was just a different kind of vibe. I think they took a chance on Afraid To Shoot Strangers these past couple years, and it worked as well. The problem is that they're not taking chances in the right places on this tour. I mean, what casual fan wouldn't be over the moon if they threw in Infinite Dreams, Stranger In A Strange Land, Flight of Icarus, Killers or Still Life?!
 
In the end, both the 2012/13 and 2014 sets are absolutely killer when viewed alone, but when you frame it in the context of what Maiden can and have done in the past few years that things start to fall flat. And it's so close to being amazing in that context as well that it just kills me!
 
I'll keep half an eye on the setlist for the show tomorrow...If they make any chances to the first show. if they don't it will stay the same rest of tour I guess...:)
 
It's a bit ironic that some of Maiden's most adventurous and daring setlists have been here in the USA where they have more casual fans than most places. Doing all of A Matter Of Life And Death and the 2010 tour which consisted mostly of songs from the 2000's. Maybe they're trying to get the more casual fans into some of the lesser known stuff.
 
Travis The Dragon said:
It's a bit ironic that some of Maiden's most adventurous and daring setlists have been here in the USA where they have more casual fans than most places. Doing all of A Matter Of Life And Death and the 2010 tour which consisted mostly of songs from the 2000's. Maybe they're trying to get the more casual fans into some of the lesser known stuff.
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Stranger in a strange land will NEVER be played live again, its a song that Adrian wrote about his Dad who died a few years ago.

I was hoping to see bit more of a shake up in the set list, have never seen Killers or Infinite Dreams live and get the feeling I never will. Might be that Bruce cant reach the notes on those songs, shame as they are two of my top ten Maiden songs
 
It's just very typical Maiden to not take any chances....

I doubt it's an issue with Bruce's voice. Listen to the Revelations video further up, he really nails it and sounds as good as ever.
 
Rich Segal said:
Stranger in a strange land will NEVER be played live again, its a song that Adrian wrote about his Dad who died a few years ago.

I was hoping to see bit more of a shake up in the set list, have never seen Killers or Infinite Dreams live and get the feeling I never will. Might be that Bruce cant reach the notes on those songs, shame as they are two of my top ten Maiden songs
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No, Adrian left the tour in 1999 because of his dad's death and they dropped the song because no one else had time to learn the solo. The song itself has nothing to do with his father.
 
This is cool

Fans attending U.K.'s Sonisphere festival on Saturday, July 5 will witness The Great War Display Team, a group of pilots which includes IRON MAIDEN vocalist Bruce Dickinson among its illustrious members, staging a spectacular 12-minute air display in the skies above Knebworth at approximately 6 p.m. This unique and audacious "dogfight" will commemorate the 100th anniversary of The Great War; a 21st-Century tribute to the daring — and often downright dangerous — exploits of both the English and German pilots who ruled Europe's skies between 1914 and 1918. The show features nine aircraft of five different types, all exact replicas of the planes used in WW1 combat. Bruce will be flying his very own Fokker Dr1 Triplane, the same model used by infamous German flying ace Manfred von Richthofen, a.k.a. The Red Baron. Also from the German side there is a Junkers CL1. Of the British planes in the show, there is a Sopwith Triplane, a BE2c and a SE5a. The other members of this elite team alongside Bruce are Alex Truman, Dan Griffith, Dave Linney, Ernie Hoblyn, Gordon Brander, Matthew Boddington, Peter Bond, Richard Piper, Vic Lockwood and Will Greenwood.
Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ir...-ww1-tribute-air-display/#5VuxYc35dCrUtaEx.99
 
SixesAlltheway said:
So let's see....It goes:

Moon Child
Can I Play With Madness ( I can't believe they still play this wimpy crap song...:down:)
The Prisoner
2 Minutes To Midnight :yawn:
Revelations
The Trooper
The Number of The Beast :yawn:
Phantom of The Opera
Run To The Hills
Wasted Years
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Wrathchild
Fear of The Dark :yawn:
Iron Maiden

Aces High
The Evil That Men Do :yawn:
Sanctuary
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Really wish they had dropped Midnight for this leg, I mean does anybody look forward to seeing this song anymore? It's sort of just there...

Also on that point, when was the last time they didn't play Midnight. Would I be right in thinking it's been present in every tour since the Bruce & Adrian reunion?
 
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