Maiden gone Prog Metal ?

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I didn't say it  !!!  but on another post on another forum someone stated that the new maiden album  is......."this album is a prog metal album" 
would do you guys think to that ? 
 
Maiden has had prog metal elements since before prog metal was a genre in itself.  This album is no different IMO. 
 
Let's face it, they have been getting more progressive.  Seventh Son certainly was, and then they lapsed back into traditional Iron Maiden-ness...but they simply aren't the same pure headbanging metal that they were back in the Piece of Mind and Powerslave days.  I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing...Dance of Death was different from the stuff you heard in the 80's but it still sounded like Iron Maiden, and it was still fantastic.  Where Brave New World was trying to recapture the Maiden of the 80's (and it achieved its objective), DoD moved them into new territory.

So sure, their new album can be prog metal.  Considering that DoD pretty much was, I don't think it'd come as a surprise.
 
Of course they have become more progressive. But do we need to label it 'Progressive Metal'? Why not label it 'Heavy Progressive Symphonic NWOBHM-Related Metal'? Why not label it 'Iron Maiden'?
 
Perun said:
Of course they have become more progressive. But do we need to label it 'Progressive Metal'? Why not label it 'Heavy Progressive Symphonic NWOBHM-Related Metal'? Why not label it 'Iron Maiden'?
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I'm glad you said that cos i totally agree !!!  Iron maiden doesn't need to be labeled they are for sure just maiden

thanks for the response guys !!!!
 
Hanyou said:
Where Brave New World was trying to recapture the Maiden of the 80's
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i don't agree with that statement at all

maiden were 100 times more progressive in the sit/ssoass years, the new album has proggy elements, but not enough as to label it as progressive metal imho. i'm on the "it's just maiden" bandwagon :P
 
Agree with Perun, Iron Maiden are Iron Maiden!

Unique, No other band has the same sound. You cant pigeon hole Maiden.... they can be a mixture of genres in the same album!!!
 
Perun said:
Of course they have become more progressive. But do we need to label it 'Progressive Metal'? Why not label it 'Heavy Progressive Symphonic NWOBHM-Related Metal'? Why not label it 'Iron Maiden'?
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I have no problem with labels.  They're used for books, movies, everything across the board. 

Think about it.  Blade Runner, for example, is a film noir/ dystopia/ science fiction, but most people just call it science fiction.  Iron Maiden is currently heavy metal with progressive elements...however people choose to label it is up to them, but it's fine to try and define that sound.  It just says something about the band.

I mean, Maiden even started with heavy metal with punk elements.  Actually labelling the phases kind of puts into perspective what a diverse band this is. 

Maidenfans does nothing less.  You have "Experimentation" for the Somewhere in Time/ Seventh Son era, and this is defined more by the sound than anything else, right?

I just don't see what's so wrong about trying to define their sound.
 
The only song that I found progressive is For The Greater Good God, sounds like a mix between Iron Maiden and Dream Theater.

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Maiden were progressive from their very beginnings-the time changes and strong bass in their songs were what gave them their uniqueness, all courtesy of 'Arry.  They influenced the main prog metal artists such as Dream Theater (yes, Dream Theater were also influenced by prog rock bands like Rush, and Queensryche, but Maiden give them their heavy influences), but I don't think we need to call them prog metal.  If Dream Theater play a simple album, would they be labelled 'Heavy Metal'?  We all know Maiden are (NWOB)Heavy Metal, so we should be able to leave it at that-labels are to inform people, after all, and most metalheads know that Maiden are quite a progressive band.
 
Cosmiceddie said:
Compared to AC/DC, the new album appears progressive, compared to Dream Theater, it sounds like AC/DC.
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Hehe! ^_^

For the record, I haven't listened to the album yet. September 5 cannot come soon enough.
 
prowlergrig said:
i don't agree with that statement at all

maiden were 100 times more progressive in the sit/ssoass years, the new album has proggy elements, but not enough as to label it as progressive metal imho. i'm on the "it's just maiden" bandwagon :P
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I think he meant their sound prior to SIT/SSOASS, their 'golden era' sound, because I agree in that BNW achieved that.
 
Although Perun already stated that there is no sense in labelling Maiden, I will do so anyway ;)

And if you ask me if Maiden got more prog nowadays, I'd clearly say yes!

Before anyone starts telling me now "It sounds nothing like Dream Theater!!!?!?ZOMG!!111eleven", let me explain:
The songs on the new album (as well as some of the last two records; Thin Line for instance, or Nomad (BECKETT!!!) have a strong 70's vibe to it (lots of Wishbone Ash feel here, and the Legacy is very zeppelin-esque!) and this is where the band takes their inspiration from.
As the guys got older, they're not as aggressive and raw as they used to be, the songs got more intricate, more "mature" and - with the influence of their old heroes - got more Prog Rock than Metal.

I've talked to alot of longtime fans about it, they all say Maiden "lost" their "in-the-face" quality, which is true to some extent.
But as I'm quite a prog nutter, and I really like the old 70's bands, I don't really mind.

Maybe some of you do, maybe some disagree, but that's my 2 cents about this. And to bring it to an end: Thank you, Lord 'Arry, for this fine new record!
 
dude not all 70's rock was prog rock, although the bands you mentioned do have progressive tendencies.
like i said, in the same way that led zep isn't considered prog (despite of very proggy songs, like no quarter), maiden shouldn't either
 
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dude not all 70's rock was prog rock,
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MaidenFreak did not say that all 70's bands are Prog rock, he merely stated he is a prog nutter AND he really likes the old 70's bands.

Maidenfreak said:
I've talked to alot of longtime fans about it, they all say Maiden "lost" their "in-the-face" quality, which is true to some extent.
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As a long time Maiden fan and not one to worry too much about prog (I own few, if any, prog albums), it seems to me that they way Maiden have progressed and matured has, well, pleased me. For sure, they had a great raw punky type sound in the old days, but their sound has, if you like, grown with me and it's like I have been taken on this little journey with them. I hear all these folk of my age (and perhaps slightly younger) who seem to have a "cut off point" where Maiden is concerned - be it after Killers, Powerslave, Senth Son.., etc. - I guess it's their opinion, but it baffles me.

Maidenfreak said:
Thank you, Lord 'Arry, for this fine new record!
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I'll say. :D
 
Unfortunatley, Maiden have lost their "Maiden Unique Touch" and they really wanted to do a number with this progressive thing. shame, though i'm glad I've started with NOTB and not with DoD coz i'd feel its an avrage band.
 
My prog metal collection is limited.  All I have is 2 CDS by Dream Theatre and one of them is considered their most commercially available.  Working from this (limited) perspective, I thought the way AMoLaD seemingly has multi-layered songs placed into a single song would give this CD a prog metal sound in that respect.  Also the way Bruce lets his vocals carry kind of reminds me of Dream Theatre. 

This was my ORIGINAL impression.  However, the more I listen to AMoLaD the more I see it as simply Iron Maiden, with just more lyrical depth and musical variation than other releases.  At any rate, it is a great CD!

Cosmiceddie said:
Compared to AC/DC, the new album appears progressive, compared to Dream Theater, it sounds like AC/DC.
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I agree with this wholeheartedly.  Well put, Cosmiceddie! 
I think people just seem to have this need to compare bands and define them by these limiting, and somewhat arbitrary guidelines.
 
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