Live After Death album what was played where ?

So today seems a good day to post here since is the 35th anniversary of the release of the album.

I read the entire thread again and there was a question someone asked that wasn't addressed, which is, how did the band do overdubs to tracks if they were on the road? And well, since I'm writing my new book which does explore every single day in Maiden history and I'm currently investigating the 1985 era, let me tell you this.

As we all know, the Live After Death recordings in L.A. were made between March 14 and March 17, they took a day off and then resumed the tour until March 26. They had 3 days off and then went to Hawaii to Dave's weeding. They were in Hawaii for more than a week and then went to Japan. Afterward, they flew to Australia (until May 11), were forced to cancel their dates in New Zealand (Bruce, Nicko, and Steve went back to London, Dave and Adrian went to Hawaii) until May 22 when they flew to Portland to continue the last leg of the US Tour until July 5.

Now, considering that Live After Death was released on October 14, they definitely had more than enough time to overdub tracks after the last date of the tour. They could have also done it in the 3 days between the San Bernardino shows and their flight to Hawaii (March 30) but I think they actually did it in July-August.
 
Luisma said:
So today seems a good day to post here since is the 35th anniversary of the release of the album.

I read the entire thread again and there was a question someone asked that wasn't addressed, which is, how did the band do overdubs to tracks if they were on the road? And well, since I'm writing my new book which does explore every single day in Maiden history and I'm currently investigating the 1985 era, let me tell you this.

As we all know, the Live After Death recordings in L.A. were made between March 14 and March 17, they took a day off and then resumed the tour until March 26. They had 3 days off and then went to Hawaii to Dave's weeding. They were in Hawaii for more than a week and then went to Japan. Afterward, they flew to Australia (until May 11), were forced to cancel their dates in New Zealand (Bruce, Nicko, and Steve went back to London, Dave and Adrian went to Hawaii) until May 22 when they flew to Portland to continue the last leg of the US Tour until July 5.

Now, considering that Live After Death was released on October 14, they definitely had more than enough time to overdub tracks after the last date of the tour. They could have also done it in the 3 days between the San Bernardino shows and their flight to Hawaii (March 30) but I think they actually did it in July-August.
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No matter when the overdubs were made, the reality is there are overdubs on Live After Death no matter what Steve "Little white lies" Harris keeps on saying.
 
In regards to the overdubs, were they studio work or was it clips from other live performances cut in? I ask because I could see from Steve’s point of view that when he says “no overdubs” what he’s really saying is “this is 100% live, no studio recordings cut in.” And while it’s still not the truth, it makes sense to see his point of view.
 
chaosapiant said:
In regards to the overdubs, were they studio work or was it clips from other live performances cut in? I ask because I could see from Steve’s point of view that when he says “no overdubs” what he’s really saying is “this is 100% live, no studio recordings cut in.” And while it’s still not the truth, it makes sense to see his point of view.
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You wouldn't be able to clip in another live performance as the chances of the tempo being exactly right are nil.

Re: overdubs: They recorded 4 nights at LA and similar at Hammermsith, I can't imagine the amount of overdubs necessary where substantial, what are the odds on Maiden playing a song with significant errors in it in all 4 gigs that none of the takes were usable? I'd say overdubs where limited stuff, like the backing vocals in Aces High which sound like definite overdubs to me :lol:
 
The vocals on the album version and video version are completely different on Aces High and probably multiple other songs as well. In the video version, they're much worse. Either they overdubbed that in the studio (Bruce did say they did overdubs on LAD sometime in the 90s) or somehow they managed to fit audio from another performance in the album version (supported by Bruce's vocals still being pretty weak and him fucking up the lyrics) but the fact of the matter is, something happened there.

The difference in vocals is also big enough that I find it hard to believe it's just down to the audio being from two different nights. They sound more like takes from two different parts of the tour, with the album version sounding more like the early part of the tour when Bruce's voice was still in decent shape.

Other than that, Adrian confirmed he overdubbed some of his guitarwork since he was out of tune for a bunch of the songs. I think that would be anything where he played the Les Paul Goldtop. And yeah, his backing vocals are pure studio material. Sometimes you'll even notice he's somehow singing despite being away from the mic!
 
I just assumed some songs on the video were from one night and songs from the album another. Both versions sound completely live to me.
 
Yeah they are definitely different nights on the video to what is on the album, here's my opinion from earlier in the thread

srfc said:
my gut instinct is that all the lp/cd is from the 4th night and all the audio on the video is from the saturday night whatever that night was, going by what Bruce says during Running Free. I have no info to back this up, I just have a feeling the just probably weren't arsed going through it with a fine tooth comb and picking different tracks from different nights.
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srfc said:
Yeah they are definitely different nights on the video to what is on the album, here's my opinion from earlier in the thread
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Blimey! I thought everyone knew that the audio from the video and LP are from different nights! Anyway, here I go again with the specifics:

Sides 1, 2 & 3 are from March 17, 1985

Side 4: 'Wrathchild' & '22 Acacia Avenue' (October 8, 1984) / 'Phantom Of The Opera' (October 9, 1984) / 'Children Of The Damned' & 'Die With Your Boots On' (October 10, 1984).

A big bulk of the audio of the video is from March 15, 1985, with the exceptions of 'Revelations', 'Flight Of Icarus', The Number Of The Beast' (March 14, 1985) & 'Hallowed Be Thy Name' (March 16, 1985).

The images of the video are a pastiche between images from the concerts filmed (March 15 & 16)
 
Does anyone know when was the release party for the album in 1985? Maybe someone has a news clipping, review or something that says when it was.
 
Somebody refresh my memory here but am I right in thinking that Maiden originally planned to do a tour on the back of LAD before cancelling it due to exhaustion from the World Slavery tour. I’m sure I read this years ago.
 
robert 3019 said:
Somebody refresh my memory here but am I right in thinking that Maiden originally planned to do a tour on the back of LAD before cancelling it due to exhaustion from the World Slavery tour. I’m sure I read this years ago.
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They did say that and supposedly there was going to be some dates supporting the album however I have some doubts that they scheduled some dates do far ahead
 
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Ruflux said:
There are, Bruce confirmed it down the line. Aces High for example had its entire vocal take replaced for the album version, the original audio is on the video version and it's markedly worse. Adrian re-recorded most if not all his backing vocals in the studio and apparently had to redo some songs because of tuning issues on his guitar in the original recording.
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Hello, can somebody explain what Bruce says between Aces High and 2 Minutes?He says something like xxxxx Long Beach Arena, Two minutes To midnight...don't understand the xxxxx
 
mudman said:
Thank you. Really appreciate, it's been many years I was trying to understand. Thanks again.
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I personal wished they released the whole of Hammersmith instead. The band sound way fresher and Bruce much better. As for Bruce recollections, lets be honest I take them with a pinch of salt. He doesn't even now when songs were recordered or release half of the time.
 
GhostofCain said:
That being said, I believe the album is mostly live and not as doctored as … Thin Lizzy's Studio and Dangerous though.
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I’m sorry, but this rumour really needs to die.

I dunno what Tony Visconti’s deal is claiming that the album was 75% recorded in the studio, but you only need to compare it to the bootlegs of the shows from which the songs were lifted (I have) to realise the touch-ups on it are pretty minimal.

The amount of overdubbing is no more extensive than what you’re suggesting is on Live After Death.
 
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Leigh Burne said:
I’m sorry, but this rumour really needs to die.

I dunno what Tony Visconti’s deal is claiming that the album was 75% recorded in the studio, but you only need to compare it to the bootlegs of the shows from which the songs were lifted (I have) to realise the touch-ups on it are pretty minimal.

The amount of overdubbing is no more extensive than what you’re suggesting is on Live After Death.
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IMO Tony Visconti's lie is an attempt to make the greatness of Live and Dangerous be about his production not about Lizzy's live performance. I always site the fact that if Visconti is telling the truth about all the bass being from the studio, then why does Philo randomly stop playing the bass in the saxophone solo of Dancing in the Moonlight? You don't do that in the studio.
 
srfc said:
IMO Tony Visconti's lie is an attempt to make the greatness of Live and Dangerous be about his production not about Lizzy's live performance. I always site the fact that if Visconti is telling the truth about all the bass being from the studio, then why does Philo randomly stop playing the bass in the saxophone solo of Dancing in the Moonlight? You don't do that in the studio.
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Like I said, all the proof you need that Visconti's talking out of his arse can be found in the bootlegs from those gigs.
 
Leigh Burne said:
I’m sorry, but this rumour really needs to die.

I dunno what Tony Visconti’s deal is claiming that the album was 75% recorded in the studio, but you only need to compare it to the bootlegs of the shows from which the songs were lifted (I have) to realise the touch-ups on it are pretty minimal.

The amount of overdubbing is no more extensive than what you’re suggesting is on Live After Death.
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Fair enough. With or without overdubs, Live and Dangerous is one of the greatest live albums of all time.
 
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