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Open question to all. Does the media in your respective country refer to ISIS as "so called Islamic State"? Not sure what point they're making by saying "so called".
 
Media here refers to them as ISIS, government refers to them as Daesh. They've never been referred to as Islamic State or so called Islamic State here.
 
I don't understand. They call them "ISIS", but they're not calling them Islamic State? They're using the acronym, but not the full title --is that what you mean?
 
No, hence why I'm asking you to clarify. Your media &/or government referring to them as "ISIS" (pronouncing the acronym) instead of "Islamic State" is hardly "not openly". That's like "not openly" referring to the British Broadcasting Corporation by calling them the "BBC". These are transparently the same thing.
 
No, because nobody says British Broadcasting Corporation anyway.

Using the acronym keeps you from uttering the words "Islamic State". That's what that is. ISIS refer to themselves as Islamic State and cut your tongue if you don't refer to them as such. So, evidently, you can see that there's a difference.
 
No it isn't.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4570385,00.html

"Several residents in Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city which fell to the extremist group in June, told The Associated Press that the militants threatened to cut the tongue of anyone who publicly used the acronym Daesh, instead of referring to the group by its full name, saying it shows defiance and disrespect."

ISIS considers not using the name Islamic State as a sign of disrespect and punishes people who do so. Daesh is the Arabic version of ISIS, mind you, it's also an acronym. (Dawlah-al Islamiyyah f'al-Iraq w Belaad al-Sham)
 
Media reports say the suicide bomber in Gaziantep was a child. If this is true, we are reaching a whole new level of terrorism...
 
The Flash said:
No it isn't.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4570385,00.html

"Several residents in Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city which fell to the extremist group in June, told The Associated Press that the militants threatened to cut the tongue of anyone who publicly used the acronym Daesh, instead of referring to the group by its full name, saying it shows defiance and disrespect."

ISIS considers not using the name Islamic State as a sign of disrespect and punishes people who do so. Daesh is the Arabic version of ISIS, mind you, it's also an acronym. (Dawlah-al Islamiyyah f'al-Iraq w Belaad al-Sham)
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I know all this. This is all nonsensical. That's all I'm saying.
 
Point is to not give into what ISIS is trying to do. The point of calling themselves Islamic State is to create a sense of unity within Muslim people against the "infidels". All of ISIS' actions work towards that goal, to make Muslim world synonymous with themselves and fight that apocalyptic war between Muslims and the rest of the world. (This is a thing in Islam)

You might not believe in the strength of words, but this is what diplomacy is all about. You can't go "those terrorists in Syria" or something because you'd be accused of not being able to address ISIS directly. You have to refer to them one way or the other, might as well use the acronym to piss them off.
 
Oh, I believe in the strength of words. I'm just observing the difference between the acronym ISIS and Islamic State is semantically negligible. I appreciate the importance of the prefix "so called", although not everyone is observing it. You just used the term "ISIS" yourself.
 
CriedWhenBrucieLeft said:
Oh, I believe in the strength of words. I'm just observing the difference between the acronym ISIS and Islamic State is semantically negligible.
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To you it is. To ISIS it isn't. ISIS already consider being referred to as ISIS, ISIL or Daesh as not accepting Islamic State. They obviously don't see it as "acronym is the same as the full title" as you do.

I'm quite sure ISIS is more pleased to hear "so called Islamic State" than ISIS or Daesh. Because, while rejecting its legitimacy, you are uttering the words Islamic State, which works for their agenda. There's a reason they got rid of the "of Iraq and al Sham" in the title, point is to pass themselves off as a universal movement.
 
The Flash said:
To you it is. To ISIS it isn't. ISIS already consider being referred to as ISIS, ISIL or Daesh as not accepting Islamic State. They obviously don't see it as "acronym is the same as the full title" as you do.
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Why would I accept their reasoning? It is an acronym. This is a fact. It doesn't matter to me what garbage logic they apply to language or anything else.
The Flash said:
I'm quite sure ISIS is more pleased to hear "so called Islamic State" then ISIS or Daesh. Because, while rejecting its legitimacy, you are uttering the words Islamic State, which works for their agenda. There's a reason they got rid of the "of Iraq and al Sham" in the title, point is to pass themselves off as a universal movement.
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Again, I'm guessing this is what Albie is getting at.
 
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