Language affects personality

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cornfedhick said:
Actually, I think English from the 18th Century would no longer be considered "well-written" today.  Too verbose, with too-complicated sentence structures.  Based in part on the influence of certain early 20th Century authors -- Hemingway and Faulkner being obvious examples -- English prose is now considered well-written if it is clear, economical and precise.  So, "four score and seven years ago" would be considered pompous nowadays -- just say "87 years ago."  Sorry, Abe.   

EDIT:  I should add that, for the most part, the Gettysburg Address is a paradigm of well-written, concise prose, and is considered by many to be the greatest speech in American political history. 

There is a difference between 'economical' and "well-written." I guarantee you Shakespeare, Stoker, Allan Poe and other pre Hemingway (who sucks by the way) writers are still considered "well-written." Just because it is old it is not "pompous" or not well-written. Sure the style is now outdated, but that is not the point. Point is most of the books being pumped out now-a-days are poorly written. For example Michael Crichton can't write to save his life. He's written good stories, that doesn't mean they are well-written...
 
Onhell said:
Hemingway (who sucks by the way)
:blink:  It has become trendy to pick on Hemingway, I realize, but to say he "sucks"??  That's nutty. 

Getting off topic, but my point was not that older literature -- particularly that written in verse, such as Shakespeare -- is poorly written.  My point is that people don't write like that anymore.  And no, Crichton is not my example.  I refer instead to contemporary authors such as Joan Didion, Toni Morrison, Cormac McCarthy, Gore Vidal, Kaz Ishiguro, and others who -- even when being "literary" and using imagery or symbolism or other poetic devices in their prose -- use simple, clear language to get their message across.  Hemingway certainly influenced them, and I think that's a fine legacy.  Even Faulkner at his most challenging used simple prose.  ("My mother is a fish.")  So, to the extent there was ever "High English," you just don't see it anymore, even from our literary masters.   
 
Back on topic, in my case nobody has ever remarked my personality changed when I switched languages, but strangely in my school days I felt more comfortable speaking and writing in English.  I took French for about 4 years and my tongue always got in the way and German frightens me (that's another story), so I stuck to English.  Nowadays the situation has completely changed and yes, I try to be more careful writing in English to avoid being misunderstood and offend someone.  I don't know what happened over the years, I guess the lack of practice took its toll.  Or maybe I just got old.... :o 
 
cornfedhick said:
:blink:  It has become trendy to pick on Hemingway, I realize, but to say he "sucks"??  That's nutty. 

Hey! I've picked on him BEFORE it was trendy! :)

LooseCannon said:
I like Hemingway.  Quite a lot.

Don't worry LC, I still think you're a cool guy :p
 
Anomica said:
I'm not sure about languages, but sometimes it's enough to switch dialects. My wife sounds and behaves one way when she's around here (Swedish west coast) but when she speaks with her mother or other relatives in the far south of Sweden (Skåne) her entire persona changes; she swears more, talks louder and becomes more boisterous (sp?). Go figure???

Haha, but that's Skåne of course!

Anyway, my 2 cents in this discussion. The answer for me is yes, I feel slightly schizo all the time. When I speak German I feel more aggressive, more in control and somehow more manly (my voice gets deeper automatically). With English I feel, well, just about normal. When I speak Swedish I feel ridiculous pretty much all of the time (I mean, it does sound ridiculous). But nobody's ever remarked to me that my personality changes. It doesn't really I think, I just feel that way.
 
Natalie said:
When I speak German I feel more aggressive, more in control and somehow more manly (my voice gets deeper automatically).

Funnily enough, it's quite the opposite for me, unless it's Swiss-German. Then I'm the same as you.

French makes me feel awkward, unless I don't need to control my accent and can spread my ugly Parisian accent around.
I only really feel at ease with English.
 
Language affects personality : it has to be true, yet I think I'm the same person when I'm speaking French
 
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