Kalata
Out of the Silent Planet
The studio chorus is not the same live. Easier song for Rob. It's nice that they're changing songs.
Richie's intro solo (basically Green Manalishi melody) is a cool idea:
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Judas Priest
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Richie's intro solo (basically Green Manalishi melody) is a cool idea:
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
Richie’s intro solo has little - if anything - to do with Victim of Changes (unless the changes refer to the setlist).
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
Think I'm going to sit out the upcoming KK's Priest tour. The setlist was going to convince me to go because I wasn't particularly interested in seeing them playing an opening set. I also don't particularly care for WASP. Opening night of the tour was last night and KK's playing it probably even more safe than Judas is this year.
1. You've Got Another Thing Comin' (first half)
2. Breaking the Law
3. Living After Midnight
4. Strike of the Viper
5. One More Shot at Glory
6. Hellfire Thunderbolt
7. Heading Out to the Highway
8. Beyond the Realms of Death
9. The Sentinel
10. Victim of Changes
11. Turbo Lover
12. Raise Your Fists
1. You've Got Another Thing Comin' (first half)
2. Breaking the Law
3. Living After Midnight
4. Strike of the Viper
5. One More Shot at Glory
6. Hellfire Thunderbolt
7. Heading Out to the Highway
8. Beyond the Realms of Death
9. The Sentinel
10. Victim of Changes
11. Turbo Lover
12. Raise Your Fists
Yax
Ancient Mariner
They did each prior tour, to be fair, and K.K. is the one running the show, Owens has made that much clear. In fact, he regularly responds to people asking for more of his Priest tunes to go and see his solo shows, because that's where you're going to hear those songs.
But yeah, it's funny.
Downing definitely is the leader, but Tim isn't just a hired gun... He should persuade KK to play more of the Ripper-era tracks. This situation looks ridiculous. No one pays to see KK's Priest to hear Living After Midnight. I can understand that Ken probably feels nostalgic about his classics, I know that some hits just have to be performed, but this band should be an interesting alternative to Judas Priest. What I'm seeing now is just wasted potential. Because they're damn good live and they could be even better, if the approach was more well-thought-out. They have so many options to choose from... Hell, if they want to focus on the classic stuff, it'd be nice to hear the '98 version of Rapid Fire. It'd be amazing to see KK play the Jawbreaker solo after 42 years. But no, let's have Turbo Lover.
Btw, on the first show of the tour, Owens said they want to record a live album on it. I hope this means there'll be rotations in the setlist because I simply can't imagine a release with such an uninspired tracklist.
Btw, on the first show of the tour, Owens said they want to record a live album on it. I hope this means there'll be rotations in the setlist because I simply can't imagine a release with such an uninspired tracklist.
Yax
Ancient Mariner
Eh, the Judas Priest tracks are the ones that logically drive casual listeners into seeing them. True, not necessarily Living After Midnight, but classic Judas Priest tunes with the original guitarist K.K. Downing and the former vocalist Ripper Owens, but the deep cuts aren't what sells. Few fans live and die by Jugulator and Demolition, and the promotor likely asked for a Judas Priest classics-heavy setlist for this tour. Let's not forget, promotors have a say too. That's why we have Dirkschneider touring rather than U.D.O., for instance.
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That's why I said that I do understand playing the hits. I don't mind KK's Priest performing Victim of Changes. On the contrary, I'd expect them to play it (or Sinner). Breaking the Law? No problem with that. I can even understand playing The Sentinel since Faithkeepers won't make it to the US. Jugulator isn't the most beloved Priest record, but it has its fans and most of them go to KK's Priest's shows, they're literally the only opportunity to hear the Jugulator tunes live (albeit at this point the said opportunity seems to be only theoretical). I don't think it'd upset many people if the band axed an evergreen in favour of, let's say, Bullet Train or Blood Stained.
Damn, during his solo years, even Rob was clearly interested in revisiting the more obscure parts of the band's discography. He'd often play stuff like Stained Class, Riding on the Wind, Running Wild... Ken's playing it safe. He deserves praise for coming back to songs such as Before the Dawn, but other than that, he relies on rather more well-known songs.
Udo actually does both. He's just finished his Balls to the Wall tour and what's coming next is another U.D.O. tour, promoting the fresh, yet unreleased album. Before the BttW tour he was promoting Touchdown, etc. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me, if you like both his solo work and his Accept stuff.
Damn, during his solo years, even Rob was clearly interested in revisiting the more obscure parts of the band's discography. He'd often play stuff like Stained Class, Riding on the Wind, Running Wild... Ken's playing it safe. He deserves praise for coming back to songs such as Before the Dawn, but other than that, he relies on rather more well-known songs.
Udo actually does both. He's just finished his Balls to the Wall tour and what's coming next is another U.D.O. tour, promoting the fresh, yet unreleased album. Before the BttW tour he was promoting Touchdown, etc. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me, if you like both his solo work and his Accept stuff.
Yax
Ancient Mariner
No, Burn in Hell went down well, but a classic era song will do better. That's just how it is, as the excitement for Ripper's era is (unfairly imo) low.
He does both, but he only started doing Accept songs because that's what the promotor's wanted - he has said as much in interviews. So 10 years ago, he was going to do a final run where he played Accept songs and then to never perform them again, but then he got further booking requests for Dirkschneider and decided to just keep going, because that's what the promotors (and fans) wanted.
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Tbh the performance of Burn in Hell at the concert I attended was very well received. I think it was a very anticipated song. Of course, when you play a song like Night Crawler or Breaking the Law, it's hard for a deep cut to compete with them. But sometimes a rarity may be the dark horse of the setlist. Or at least an important core of it. I mean, I've kinda experienced situations like that this year, during the Faithkeepers gigs I was at. Panic Attack, the newest song they're playing now, got an amazing reception. Much better than Hell Bent for Leather, The Ripper or Metal Gods, for example. I remember talking to a young dude who never saw Priest before the current tour. His fav moment of the concert was Lightning Strike. I don't think they're deep cuts, they're too young for that, but they clearly aren't the crucial Priest tunes.
KK's Priest's situation is quite interesting. Ripper isn't the original singer. He's known for being a replacement. KK is the original guitarist, but at the same time, he's not THE guitarist (simply because Priest's music is based on 2 guitars and over the time Glenn became the more recognizable musician). Also, I think - because of what I've just stated - that KK's Priest plays for a more "sophisticated" audience. If you know who Downing and Ripper are, you're likely to be familiar with a big chunk of Priest's catalogue. So while playing the hits is justified and expected, they do have the luxury of playing more than just them. Especially since Tim is a very talented vocalist with very few limitations. Blaze won't sing stuff like Infinite Dreams or Alexander the Great because he's simply not able to perform them well, but Ripper could easily sing most of Rob's songs.
You're right about Udo, the decision was made due to suggestions coming from the people in the industry. However, in his defence, his tour are much more than just "the best of Accept" type of thing. I mean, lots of Balls to the Walls songs aren't hits. Stuff like Head Over Heels, Turn Me On, Losing More Than You've Ever Heard aren't the songs you hear at most Accept shows. He even decided to play Breaking Up Again, which is far from an obvious pick. Only the first Accept-era tour was focused on the basic stuff. In 2017/18 he was playing a deep cut setlist that included tracks like Russian Roulette, The Beast Inside, X-T-C, Another Second to Be... He made sure to make it interesting and not repetitive. He could have just said "Fine, let's play Princess of the Dawn, Metal Heart and Breaker and everyone will be happy", but that's not what happened. I respect him for his attitude.
KK's Priest's situation is quite interesting. Ripper isn't the original singer. He's known for being a replacement. KK is the original guitarist, but at the same time, he's not THE guitarist (simply because Priest's music is based on 2 guitars and over the time Glenn became the more recognizable musician). Also, I think - because of what I've just stated - that KK's Priest plays for a more "sophisticated" audience. If you know who Downing and Ripper are, you're likely to be familiar with a big chunk of Priest's catalogue. So while playing the hits is justified and expected, they do have the luxury of playing more than just them. Especially since Tim is a very talented vocalist with very few limitations. Blaze won't sing stuff like Infinite Dreams or Alexander the Great because he's simply not able to perform them well, but Ripper could easily sing most of Rob's songs.
You're right about Udo, the decision was made due to suggestions coming from the people in the industry. However, in his defence, his tour are much more than just "the best of Accept" type of thing. I mean, lots of Balls to the Walls songs aren't hits. Stuff like Head Over Heels, Turn Me On, Losing More Than You've Ever Heard aren't the songs you hear at most Accept shows. He even decided to play Breaking Up Again, which is far from an obvious pick. Only the first Accept-era tour was focused on the basic stuff. In 2017/18 he was playing a deep cut setlist that included tracks like Russian Roulette, The Beast Inside, X-T-C, Another Second to Be... He made sure to make it interesting and not repetitive. He could have just said "Fine, let's play Princess of the Dawn, Metal Heart and Breaker and everyone will be happy", but that's not what happened. I respect him for his attitude.
Azas
The Steppe of Being
So far I've only watched a few videos from KK's Priest's current tour, but I already have the impression that Ripper isn't sounding quite as top-notch vocally as he did a little while ago. Is it just me, or did he shave off something more than his hair when he shaved his head?
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
Am i the only one that this line up could be great but the name of the band sucks?. The could do a new band and play judas priest classics but they preffer to not play anything of ripper material?
One more shot at glory is such a funny song title
Azas
The Steppe of Being
I agree about the name, but live, this band rocks. There's just something about their sound that makes me happy. Also, #BRINGBACKTHEMIGHTYANDTHEDEAF TONY NEWTON ON BASS!
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
I mean the setlist. But the name? If they want to reach the level of a cover band thats a name
Yax
Ancient Mariner
I understand the choice of the name, as it is a claim of ownership of sorts by K.K. He has said as much - he dedicated his life to Judas Priest, and feels it is as much his as anybody else; he never relinquished his ownership stakes in the band itself. It also provides name recognition in a whole different way than any other name available to him realistically would.
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GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
It is really close to autoparody territory.
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
One More Shot at Glory, Sermons of the Sinner, Return of the Sentinel, Sons of the Sentinel, The Sinner Rides Again...
It kind of is almost like Ringo where half of his songs nowadays are like "Did you know I was in The Beatles?"
It kind of is almost like Ringo where half of his songs nowadays are like "Did you know I was in The Beatles?"
Yax
Ancient Mariner
Yeah, this is the part where it becomes cringe for me. The question is, how much of that is due to K.K., and how much is because of Ripper?