Judas Priest: songs that were never played live
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Forostar
Ancient Mariner
In literal context yes. When a band plays a song together, simultaneously, it is played live.
But personally, I find a soundcheck not a real performance, and not real enough to fit in the context of this topic. A soundcheck doesn't give much credit to the song itself. I even find it a cowardly move. It's double faced. Either have the guts to do it, either don't do it, but don't fool around and record it with uninterested faces (like Priest did). If Maiden would record Alexander the Great with cameras, prior to the Las Vegas show or whichever other one, release it and then say "yeah, we felt like doing that but we're never going to play it for you guys, this is it.", all hell would break loose. That's like acting to give a kid a cookie and as soon as the kid grabs, the cookie is withdrawn and eaten by the giver himself, a la cookie monster. I'd say: better not fool around, and don't show that cookie at all.
I even think bands could 'stage' something to make something special by picking a song on purpose that won't be in the setlist. By playing (after the selection) it in a soundcheck, they suddenly "created" something special and release it as a bonus, or if worse: they could make the fans pay extra for it.
But personally, I find a soundcheck not a real performance, and not real enough to fit in the context of this topic. A soundcheck doesn't give much credit to the song itself. I even find it a cowardly move. It's double faced. Either have the guts to do it, either don't do it, but don't fool around and record it with uninterested faces (like Priest did). If Maiden would record Alexander the Great with cameras, prior to the Las Vegas show or whichever other one, release it and then say "yeah, we felt like doing that but we're never going to play it for you guys, this is it.", all hell would break loose. That's like acting to give a kid a cookie and as soon as the kid grabs, the cookie is withdrawn and eaten by the giver himself, a la cookie monster. I'd say: better not fool around, and don't show that cookie at all.
I even think bands could 'stage' something to make something special by picking a song on purpose that won't be in the setlist. By playing (after the selection) it in a soundcheck, they suddenly "created" something special and release it as a bonus, or if worse: they could make the fans pay extra for it.
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MetalMan74'
Prowler
Judas Priest never played (Take These) Chains or Wild Nights, Hot & Crazy Days live. And have played Abductors live, it's on the 98' Live Meltdown cd!
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Thanks for the feedback! I have changed Abductors already!
I have not found a live version yet of Chains but would you address the information which indicate that it was played. Please read whole page 1.
Will check on Wild Nights later.
Still need to give this attention as well:
I have not found a live version yet of Chains but would you address the information which indicate that it was played. Please read whole page 1.
Will check on Wild Nights later.
Still need to give this attention as well:
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Sara
Not even Wensleydale?
Yes! This is a great thread! 
I remember reading a while back that Before The Dawn was played live once in Taiwan (or it might have been Korea), but I think that information is false, as I have found no firm evidence confirming this to be true despite a lot of searching...
I also agree about not counting soundchecks as a true live performance. There is footage of Megadeth soundchecking Five Magics in an instrumental version at Wembley Arena in 1990, but they never actually played the song that night, or during the rest of that tour at all. So to me, they never truly played the song live until they played the whole Rust In Peace album in it's entirety a couple of years ago. Until then, I considered it a song that had never been played live.
I remember reading a while back that Before The Dawn was played live once in Taiwan (or it might have been Korea), but I think that information is false, as I have found no firm evidence confirming this to be true despite a lot of searching...
I also agree about not counting soundchecks as a true live performance. There is footage of Megadeth soundchecking Five Magics in an instrumental version at Wembley Arena in 1990, but they never actually played the song that night, or during the rest of that tour at all. So to me, they never truly played the song live until they played the whole Rust In Peace album in it's entirety a couple of years ago. Until then, I considered it a song that had never been played live.
terrell39
Ancient Mariner
Abductors is not listed on setlist.fm...i wonder what city the performance on 98 live meltdown was recorded & how many times they played it? I saw priest on the jugulator tour in texas & was disappointed they only played 2 songs off jugulator so i was glad when half the cd was represented on 98 live meltdown
Welsh Phantom
Ancient Mariner
Nice initiative Forostar
I look forward to reading more.
One little point....in the tour segment section you have the "Rocka Rocka" tour instead of "Rocka Rolla" tour (I know it's just a typo but I am sure you would want it pointed out)
I look forward to reading more.
One little point....in the tour segment section you have the "Rocka Rocka" tour instead of "Rocka Rolla" tour (I know it's just a typo but I am sure you would want it pointed out)
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Update: I changed the scope of this undertaking. Now, I only focus (as most of us have already!) on this: was a song played live or not.
Don't worry, this is not yet about the current tour. No spoilers now. I will update with that material when the tour is done
State of doubts:
Some Rocka Rolla songs still have asterisks. The songs were listed on setlist fm, and I do not see I do not believe this (in fact it is pretty likely) but I'd still like to know more about this. @Tsentar 43, you said this:
Abductors is indeed a weird matter @terrell39. Perhaps setlist fm does not show all setlists from that tour? This could still be researched. Then again, setlist fm could be mistaken. In fact, on page 1 I cited setlist fm as source (of doubt) and now these setlists have changed.
(Take These) Chains. @Metalman 74 contradicted another source
Don't worry, this is not yet about the current tour. No spoilers now. I will update with that material when the tour is done
State of doubts:
Some Rocka Rolla songs still have asterisks. The songs were listed on setlist fm, and I do not see I do not believe this (in fact it is pretty likely) but I'd still like to know more about this. @Tsentar 43, you said this:
Do you have more info on "Winter is the entire Winter Suite"? I also still would like to know more certainty on these songs. E.g., we could try to get in touch with people who have seen these songs live. Or try to find (someone with) an old bootleg recording or something.
Abductors is indeed a weird matter @terrell39. Perhaps setlist fm does not show all setlists from that tour? This could still be researched. Then again, setlist fm could be mistaken. In fact, on page 1 I cited setlist fm as source (of doubt) and now these setlists have changed.
(Take These) Chains. @Metalman 74 contradicted another source
, a Priest specialist (see page 1). Not sure what to think of it. I hope we may hear the bootleg ourselves one day (Stabler Arena, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, USA on 26th August 1982. This was the first gig of the World Vengeance tour).
terrell39
Ancient Mariner
On the Japan leg of the Jugulator tour (where I believe '98 Metal Meltdown was recorded), only 3 of the 6 shows have setlists posted online and none of the 3 show abductors being played. Does this mean the version on LM is REALLY live? Don't know. Also, sadly, of the 91 shows listed for the entire tour, only 37 have setlists posted (& none feature Abductors)
PieceofMind89
Educated Fool
Island of Domination and Raw Deal would sound heavy as hell if they played it on the current tour.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
OK! I have it as well. To be continued.
Welsh Phantom
Ancient Mariner
