Ian Gillan (Deep Purple): Classic Rock Radio is Death Sentence to Old Bands
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
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IRON MAIDEN World Tour To Kick Off In January? - Aug. 15, 2007
According to MaidenFans.com, IRON MAIDEN drummer drummer Nicko McBrain has told the Swedish newspaper Expressen that the band's next world tour will start in January 2008, with a mention of a show at Ullevi Stadium in Gothenburg, Sweden, at some point during the summer. However, as Nicko has been known to say a lot of things before they're officially confirmed, consider this a rumor for the time being.
link:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... emID=78794
That was the 4th time they did it in 2007.
In 2006 it happened more than 20 times.
source:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... maidenfans
IRON MAIDEN World Tour To Kick Off In January? - Aug. 15, 2007
According to MaidenFans.com, IRON MAIDEN drummer drummer Nicko McBrain has told the Swedish newspaper Expressen that the band's next world tour will start in January 2008, with a mention of a show at Ullevi Stadium in Gothenburg, Sweden, at some point during the summer. However, as Nicko has been known to say a lot of things before they're officially confirmed, consider this a rumor for the time being.
link:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... emID=78794
That was the 4th time they did it in 2007.
In 2006 it happened more than 20 times.
source:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... maidenfans
Raven
Ancient Mariner
Forostar said:Blabbermouth -->
IRON MAIDEN World Tour To Kick Off In January? - Aug. 15, 2007
According to MaidenFans.com, IRON MAIDEN drummer drummer Nicko McBrain has told the Swedish newspaper Expressen that the band's next world tour will start in January 2008, with a mention of a show at Ullevi Stadium in Gothenburg, Sweden, at some point during the summer. However, as Nicko has been known to say a lot of things before they're officially confirmed, consider this a rumor for the time being.
link:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... emID=78794
That was the 4th time they did it in 2007.
In 2006 it happened more than 20 times.
source:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... maidenfans
Perhaps its time we started up a 'malicious rumours attributed to band members' thread, just to see what happens...
national acrobat
Ancient Mariner
(Back on topic)
I'm a big fan of Deep Purple's recent stuff, and saw them last year at Monsters of Rock expecting to hear a lot from Rapture of the Deep (a great album), but apart from one track from the new album it was all oldies. I expect their thinking there was that at a festival most people, apart from those specifically to see that band, will know only those old songs. To be honest, them playing mostly old tracks didn't bother me at all, but if I saw them again, I would expect some variety in the set-list.
As for Classic Rock Radio, the main station on DAB Digital over here for classic rock is Planet Rock, which is fantastic. They always support new albums from old bands and even much newer bands such as Velvet Revolver. Before AMOLAD came out, they would frequently play Benjamin Breeg, and even now a year on I've still heard For The Greater Good Of God a few times and most of the others once or twice. So it's not all bad.
I'm a big fan of Deep Purple's recent stuff, and saw them last year at Monsters of Rock expecting to hear a lot from Rapture of the Deep (a great album), but apart from one track from the new album it was all oldies. I expect their thinking there was that at a festival most people, apart from those specifically to see that band, will know only those old songs. To be honest, them playing mostly old tracks didn't bother me at all, but if I saw them again, I would expect some variety in the set-list.
As for Classic Rock Radio, the main station on DAB Digital over here for classic rock is Planet Rock, which is fantastic. They always support new albums from old bands and even much newer bands such as Velvet Revolver. Before AMOLAD came out, they would frequently play Benjamin Breeg, and even now a year on I've still heard For The Greater Good Of God a few times and most of the others once or twice. So it's not all bad.
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national acrobat said:
Interestingly enough, I had a discussion with a mate of mine just a few hours ago, and we basically came to the same conclusion. He'd seen Iced Earth at Wacken, and told me they sucked donkey balls... not because of the Ripper, not because the music they were playing was that bad, but because they failed to get the audience going, as they played so few classics. He said he wouldn't have minded that sort of setlist at a regular album tour (he actually considers going to see them again in October), but at a festival like Wacken, where the smallest part of the audience consists of die-hard fans, and most of them will only know the band from their classics, the best way to get the audience going is to play mostly classics and then one or two new songs. In his words, the Iced Earth gig really dampened the general mood of the audience.
He also said that Iced Earth have become significantly worse during the last few years, but that... is part of a different discussion.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Hmm sorry, me again defending IE, but I wonder if that last alinea was part of another discussion.
Most songs of that setlist are classics, aren't they? Perhaps people have different opinions on what songs are classics for them, but this set was full of golden songs. Did your mate tell the setlist to you?
Here the setlist I found ( http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=7062 though the poster on that forum says it might have been in a different order), blue songs are (rather) new:
01. Burning Times
02. Declaration Day
03. Stormrider
04. The Hunter
05. Vengeance Is Mine
06. My Own Savior
07. Prophecy
06. Birth Of The Wicked
09. The Coming Curse
10. A Charge To Keep
11. Violate
12. Iced Earth
I think they also played "Ten Thousand Strong" so that makes two new songs and one song of the previous album.
If you have come to the same conclusion as your mate, then how could you enjoy the Maiden gigs in 2006?:
A few new songs, rest "classics". I know you like Maiden's new work better than IE's but that was not the point you wanted to make(?)
Most songs of that setlist are classics, aren't they? Perhaps people have different opinions on what songs are classics for them, but this set was full of golden songs. Did your mate tell the setlist to you?
Here the setlist I found ( http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=7062 though the poster on that forum says it might have been in a different order), blue songs are (rather) new:
01. Burning Times
02. Declaration Day
03. Stormrider
04. The Hunter
05. Vengeance Is Mine
06. My Own Savior
07. Prophecy
06. Birth Of The Wicked
09. The Coming Curse
10. A Charge To Keep
11. Violate
12. Iced Earth
I think they also played "Ten Thousand Strong" so that makes two new songs and one song of the previous album.
If you have come to the same conclusion as your mate, then how could you enjoy the Maiden gigs in 2006?:
A few new songs, rest "classics". I know you like Maiden's new work better than IE's but that was not the point you wanted to make(?)
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Anonymous
Guest
never mind.
Powergirl81
Trooper
I should have said this yesterday...Ian's birthday was yesterday! Happy belated birthday!
I have one more question...back to me *not* being a musician: Is it true Ian has a 4 octave range? *SMX would be able to answer this, I presume* Cuz some of his screams are just...wow! *Child In Time comes to mind* I think my hisband told me Mariah Carey has a 4 octave range, but that was like, 1990 or something.
I don't know what's "common" for musicians/vocalists, although Bruce has tapped some pretty high notes (That thread "song with the highest note" I've read a few times). Is it like, 2 or 3 octaves?
I have one more question...back to me *not* being a musician: Is it true Ian has a 4 octave range? *SMX would be able to answer this, I presume* Cuz some of his screams are just...wow! *Child In Time comes to mind* I think my hisband told me Mariah Carey has a 4 octave range, but that was like, 1990 or something.
I don't know what's "common" for musicians/vocalists, although Bruce has tapped some pretty high notes (That thread "song with the highest note" I've read a few times). Is it like, 2 or 3 octaves?
In his prime (i.e. the early 1970s), Gillan probably had a 3 octave range. That's about the range of the vocal in "Child In Time", and I doubt he could sing much higher than that. His range might have approached 4 octaves if you add more notes on the low end.
I don't know what the range of the average singer is. Try looking on Wikipedia for more information - they have some very good articles about vocal ranges.
If I had to guess, I'd say most good singers have about a 2 octave range. Personally, my range varies from day to day - and even from time to time within a day. (It's horrible in the morning, and gets better as the day goes on.) But I'd guess my average range is around 2 octaves, maybe 2.5 on a really good day. I can't sing "Child In Time" - but my band does play "Bloodsucker", and I can hit that "NO NO NO!" about a quarter of the time.
Next time my band gets together, we're gonna play "Highway Star". Most of that song is easy, but a few bits (like the opening scream and "I love it! I need it!") are already scaring me.
I don't know what the range of the average singer is. Try looking on Wikipedia for more information - they have some very good articles about vocal ranges.
If I had to guess, I'd say most good singers have about a 2 octave range. Personally, my range varies from day to day - and even from time to time within a day. (It's horrible in the morning, and gets better as the day goes on.) But I'd guess my average range is around 2 octaves, maybe 2.5 on a really good day. I can't sing "Child In Time" - but my band does play "Bloodsucker", and I can hit that "NO NO NO!" about a quarter of the time.
Next time my band gets together, we're gonna play "Highway Star". Most of that song is easy, but a few bits (like the opening scream and "I love it! I need it!") are already scaring me.
Powergirl81
Trooper
I have seen your band profile via your Top 10 website, do you have a myspace site? I'd like to hear a few tunes 