digging Pink Floyd

____no5

____no5

Free Man
the idea comes from a Perun's quote (@favourite album)

I wnat to see what you know about Pink Floyd....So the questions are

1) albums of Pink Floyd that you have dig in their entireness
2) favourite Pink Floyd album

as of me :

1) the piper at the gates of dawn
    a Saucerful of Secrets
    more
    atom heart mother
    meddle
    obscoured by clouds
    the dark side of the moon
    wish you were here
    animals
    the wall
    the division bell

2) meddle   
 
amazing band, one of my favourite bands. I 'dig' Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish you were here, Animals, The Wall and Division Bell very much, I haven't listened enough to the rest to have a clear image. The rest may not be as easy to digest as the ones I mentioned, but it's all good, it's one of the very few bands that keep giving the more you listen to them for years and years. I can't single out a favourite album.
 
I appreciate the post-Waters era very much. Learning to Fly, Yet Another Movie, High Hopes, Keep Talking and especially Sorrow are for me on the same level as my favorite Pink Floyd songs of the seventies. So I really recommend A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987) & The Division Bell (1994). Atmospherical records with sweeping keyboards and hypnotic guitar work.

My 3 favorite albums from the seventies:

- Meddle (1971) with the brilliant epos Echoes and the grooving One of These Days.

- Wish You Were Here (1975) with of course 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' (tribute to Syd Barrett) and the science fiction–like and threatening Welcome to the Machine (check out these awesome images). What a keyboards. RIP, Richard Wright!

- Animals (1977) with the 3 long songs 'Dogs', 'Pigs (Three Different Ones) and 'Sheep'.

The weird thing is that I am not very fond of the two most succesful Pink Floyd albums:

- Dark Side of the Moon (1973) contains many songs which are too lighthearted (can’t find a better English word for it) and not enough grabbing for me. It goes on and on and on without any changes, tension or excitement. I guess that the guys, while working on this album, were smoking weed or other “relaxing” kind of stuff, non-stop! Exceptions and nicer waves in this dull and sleepy water are for me the more exciting Time (great build-up and solo!) and the rocking Money. I find more variation in other PF albums, both in atmosphere and tempo. The saxophone annoys me (used too often). Still, recently I am into jazz so I should give it another chance. Summing it all up, I find it a bit weird that this album was such a big success. Perhaps because it was their most poppy album until that moment?

- The Wall (1979) can tell a good concept story, but musically I find a lot of uninteresting fillers on it. My favorite songs are Another Brick in the Wall, Part II, Hey You, Comfortably Numb and Run like Hell. Unfortunately, these are not many songs for a double album with so many tracks.

No. I prefer the more exciting, threatening Pink Floyd.
From those 2 post-Waters and 3 cum-Waters studio albums I have difficulties to chose one favourite.
And to be honest, I have more fun playing their live albums.
Therefore my favourite Pink Floyd work is Delicate Sound of Thunder.
 
I'm an absolute fan of the Floyd.... <3
I mean I'm reading books, collecting bootlegs, I've got all the solo stuff the guys have been releasing through the years.

Two or three thoughts about them:

When Waters took the power back in the 74-75 era, the band lost most of the musical alchemy I really enjoy. Waters is brilliant but he should have let the others contribute to composition, arrangements and production much more than he actually did. This led to wonderful records however (i.e. Animals, The wall) but it was also the beginning of the end for the band as an entity and it finally led to a weak record (The Final Cut).

I don't love the post-Waters era although I admit that Dision Bell is quite a correct album. Gilmour is a musical genious but he needs to be helped during the composition phasis.... I believe that Waters never recovered from losing "his" musical partners and only produced few albums (3!). These are very interesting recordings except Radio Kaos.

I can't tell you which are my favorite albums, I prefer talking about eras. Although I love (dig :innocent:) the initial period (1967-mis 1968) my favorite would be 1970-1973 that is the times when the band composed as a group and played a lot of shows. It ended with the release of Dark Side of The Moon and the subsequent tours. From now on Waters was the leader and the band entered a new era (the psycho-challenged era).

Conclusion....
Pink Floyd, it's a gas lah lah lah........ B)
 
JackKnife said:
Although I love (dig :innocent:) the initial period (1967-mis 1968) my favorite would be 1970-1973 that is the times when the band composed as a group and played a lot of shows. It ended with the release of Dark Side of The Moon and the subsequent tours. From now on Waters was the leader and the band entered a new era (the psycho-challenged era).

Conclusion....
Pink Floyd, it's a gas lah lah lah........ B)
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I agree with these words....I am Syd Barrett fan (but as he was with the group, I don't like so much his personal works)
For me, he was the real genious (shine on you crazy diamond is written for him) even if David is ages better guitarist /musician than him
It was difficult for me to decide my fav album among "the piper..." and "meddle", I chosed the second because is more completed, but I am completely :wub: with the first one

starting digging by : the wall
adolescence favourite : wish you were here
post adolescence favourite : atom heart mother

@Forostar : "dark side...." was building during 2 years (or it was 3 ?) for the definite and cynical purpose of making succes
Though I understand very well of what you mean by saying light-hearted, I don't think I agree
 
I have three Floyd CD's:

The Wall
Dark Side of the Moon
Wish You Were Here

I must say, I love them all. I do, however, intend to delve further (possibly Animals - that is the only one I have heard outside what I've mentioned here). I have heard most of "The Final Cut" but really do not remember it at all.

I also have an MP3 sourced Division Bell (which I don't know if I like it enough to get the CD of).
 
I am familiar with all Pink Floyd albums. My favourite one is 'The Division Bell'. Another one I really like is one of the weirdest albums I have ever listened to, namely 'Atom Heart Mother'. Check out 'Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast'...
 
Courtesy of SMX's www.Top10Songs.net:

Pink Floyd

Posted on 20 September 2006
1. Time
2. Wearing The Inside Out
3. Have A Cigar
4. Sheep
5. Keep Talking
6. Hey You
7. Any Colour You Like
8. Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Parts I-V
9. Wish You Were Here
10. The Trial
Most of The Wall songs I've listened to death, so I'm not rating them as high. Sid years I do not listen to much, frankly.


I would not change anything now.  Pink Floyd is one of the first bands I started listening.  I own all studio albums and some live stuff. 

EDIT: @ Albie: If you are looking for a new album, I would suggest 'Animals' not 'The Final Cut' (worst album).  As Forostar said, 'Animals' is "threatening" and has great musical compositions. 
 
Pink Floyd is my favourite band. I have all their studio albums and plan to get some of the live ones soon.

Now that we've settled that...

I like all the "eras" in some way (I don't quite agree with the division of the catalogue into those, but whatever). The Piper at the Gates of Dawn is a wonderful psychedelic trip and A Saucerful of Secrets, More, Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother (a particular favourite of mine) all contain some strikingly beautiful and overlooked compositions. In terms of style Meddle sort of heralds the coming of Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here, but it's also a brilliant album in its own right, combining heavy, poppy and psychedelic works in an appealing way.

Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here are my favourite albums. I think this is where all the experimentation of the preceding few years culminates, and with wondrous results. This is where the conflict between Waters' dry sound and emphasis on lyrics and Gilmour's focus on music and sound effects is best balanced - both albums combine beautiful music (the build-up and guitar solo of Time, the odd time signatures of Money, the psychedelia of Any Colour You Like and the many themes of Shine On You Crazy Diamond spring unbidden to mind) and poignant, thought-provoking lyrics. I understand where Forostar is coming from when he says Dark Side lacks contrasts; I also think this is true to an extent, but it's never bothered me at all. I've always seen that album more than any other Floyd record as a single composition rather than a collection of songs, and the relatively ambient mood with the songs flowing into each other sounds good to me. As usual I completely fail to explain why I like my favourite music, so I'll stop here.

I also believe the band lost something when Waters took over the command. While I think Animals and The Wall are great albums, they sometimes suffer from over-emphasis on the lyrical content (it's hardly a coincidence that the songs Gilmour wrote are the ones most focused on the music), something that plagues The Final Cut so much I'd rank it as Floyd's weakest record; there's little interesting music on it (Wright's keyboards are sorely missed) and what there is basically serves as a vehicle for Waters' by the end of the thing somewhat tired statements.

A Momentary Lapse of Reason isn't all that thrilling to me, but The Division Bell is a return to form, and even though a certain spark of energy and experimentation seems to be missing it's a worthy conclusion to an awe-inspiring catalogue.

To Albie: I would recommend Animals if you enjoyed The Wall in particular, and Meddle if you're more inclined towards Dark Side of the Moon.
 
Shadow said:
... Atom Heart Mother (a particular favourite of mine)...
 
To Albie: I would recommend Animals if you enjoyed The Wall in particular, and Meddle if you're more inclined towards Dark Side of the Moon.
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I was completely crazy with the title song, once...
Now I find it not enough tight, but loose (I would like to thank the academy, ...)
I enjoy the other side of the album though, equally than before, if not more

to Albie : I would recommend Atom Heart Mother, it is the twin album of Meddle
(but few realise that), not so good as Meddle or as the piper at the gates of dawn
but, hey.....when one recommends an album for someone else starts with
he never mention first his best choise !!

in any case dig "the piper" only after you've digged some other albums before
 
Genghis Khan said:
Judging by your constant "digging" I'd have thought that 'Dark Side of the Moon' is your favourite.
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from the lyrics of time ? "dig that hole..." he?  Good thought, but no.

I've allways appreciated /respected this album for the progress that brought to sound
and because it made famous Alan Parsons
(who's engineer at the time of the recording I know him personaly :smartarse:)
but never the dark side was my favourite
 
To surmise, I need to get:

Animals (I've heard this album many times before and enjoyed it, I don't now why I have never purchased it).
Meddle (This album was played a bit by some kids when I was at school, but that was so long ago, I've completely forgotten about it - I was more into Uriah Heep and Thin Lizzy back then :D)
Atom Heart Mother
 
Albie said:
To surmise, I need to get:

Animals (I've heard this album many times before and enjoyed it, I don't now why I have never purchased it).
Meddle (This album was played a bit by some kids when I was at school, but that was so long ago, I've completely forgotten about it - I was more into Uriah Heep and Thin Lizzy back then :D)
Atom Heart Mother
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If you believe in signs, get that one first, as I started to read your post it comes If in my huge winamp list -shuffling mode !!!  (strange, same thing happened with Urizen yesterday)

If I were a swan, I'd be gone.
If I were a train, I'd be late.
And if I were a good man,
I'd talk with you
More often than I do.

If I were to sleep, I could dream.
If I were afraid, I could hide.
If I go insane, please don't put
Your wires in my brain.

If I were the moon, I'd be cool.
If I were a rule, I would bend.
If I were a good man, I'd understand
The spaces between friends.

If I were alone, I would cry.
And if I were with you, I'd be home and dry.
And if I go insane,
Will you still let me join in with the game?

If I were a swan, I'd be gone.
If I were a train, I'd be late again.
If I were a good man,
I'd talk with you
More often than I do.
 
____no5 said:
from the lyrics of time ? "dig that hole..." he?  Good thought, but no.
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Throughout the album, "dig it?" can be heard in the background speaking parts, particularly check the beginning and the end of the album.  Seriously, I thought that's the reference you were deliberately mentioning.
 
____no5 said:
@Forostar ...
Though I understand very well of what you mean by saying light-hearted, I don't think I agree
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The better word might be: light, easy-listening music. Such music is OK for me, but not when it has hardly any variation in atmosphere and tempo.
 
JackKnife said:
Did you listen to the demos of The Wall and The Final Cut?
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"The Wall" yes,

I have to admit that I don't even know "The Final Cut" as an album, but when I know that it’s some kind of continuation of The Wall, and in what obsessive dominance this album was created, I am not that interested.

Also the fact that it was the lowest selling Pink Floyd studio album in the US since Meddle (released in 1971) does not encourage me much.
 
Forostar said:
"The Wall" yes,
I have to admit that I don't even know "The Final Cut" as an album, but when I know that it’s some kind of continuation of The Wall, and in what obsessive dominance this album was created, I am not that interested.
Also the fact that it was the lowest selling Pink Floyd studio album in the US since Meddle (released in 1971) does not encourage me much.
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The latter argument is of no value to me  :D
However we can't say it's a bad album, it has its own qualities and I like it anyway. It's dark and the guitar and keyboards parts are not as good as usual in my opinion.
The fact that it didn't sell that well in the US may be related to the absence of serious promo and mainly to the fact that the band didn't tour in 1983.
The Water's solo album released the following year (The prons and cons of hitch-hiking) is much better in my opinion, but that's another story...
 
JackKnife said:
The fact that it didn't sell that well in the US may be related to the absence of serious promo and mainly to the fact that the band didn't tour in 1983.
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FINAL CUT
I've heard this album just 2 times in its entireness, so that's why it's not in my list (along with "ummagumma", and "a momentary....") of digged albums

exept not now John that is an hymn for me and my post abolescence company, I don't like it so much, it's the album the more Waters-personal-work-like, he ?

I think I know the reason why the didn't tour in 1983, I'll tell you it's a strange story :

the wall, even if it was a huge commercial succes, it was a tour disaster, that the 3 full member of Pink Floyd had to pay the financial loss from their pocket

the only one who wan money from the wall tour was Rick Wright, who had been fired during the wall sessions, but keeping participated as a salaried musician !!

I think in the final cut, he is not credited at all
 
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