Deconstructing Eddie: My Iron Maiden Songs & Albums Countdown

Re: Deconstructing Eddie: My Iron Maiden Songs & Albums Countdown - Album #13

valacirca said:
If not for the short, quick and energetic album opener, the remaining songs on VXI actually end up averaging over seven minutes each: An average that's par for the course when it comes to post-rock and prog-rock bands, but not for a heavy metal band like Iron Maiden at that time. None of the reunion-era albums have averaged past seven minutes either


Both AMOLAD and TFF average at over 7 minutes long, and that's without excluding the shortest song.  By excluding the shortest song, also BNW is about equal.  I agree with your review, though; it's over-extended.  If the best songs of VXI plus the ones that were left over for BNW were combined and developed more, it would be one hell of an album.
 
^ Oh crap. You're right. Epic math fail on my part. :oops: :blush: That's what I get for writing a review at two in the morning. I'll have to rewrite that. Thanks!
Robbiedbee said:
I really hope you finish this. I will refrain from wishing you luck until you get to the top 30 or so, because that is when you will seriously struggle!

Why do people say this!? Hehe :D I actually can't wait to get to the Top 30 or so because as far as I'm concerned, those are the easiest spots to rank. Hehe. The only thing I'm finding more and more difficult for now is coming up with new fresh to say about the songs and not repeating myself too much :p Thanks for the kind words though :)
 
And you're doing a great job.  I tried to do my top 10 today and I struggled.  I only got to the top 6 and I hit a wall and couldn't decide.
 
  Seriously, this is a massive undertaking, and is totally appreciated!  Really Val, checking up on  this list of yours has become a staple of my day to day life! 
  Thanx and keep up the fine work.      Just no more Final Frontier song for a while though!! LOL
 
bornless1 said:
   Seriously, this is a massive undertaking, and is totally appreciated!  Really Val, checking up on  this list of yours has become a staple of my day to day life! 
   Thanx and keep up the fine work.       Just no more Final Frontier song for a while though!! LOL

Yes please.  :)  I have two of TFF in my top 6.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Yes please.   :)  I have two of TFF in my top 6.

As much as possible, I don't want to give away hints at where certain songs place... but in light of this, I wanted to say that I have two TFF songs in my Top 6 as well

:D

bornless1 said:
  Seriously, this is a massive undertaking, and is totally appreciated!  Really Val, checking up on  this list of yours has become a staple of my day to day life! 
  Thanx and keep up the fine work.      Just no more Final Frontier song for a while though!! LOL

It's a really good album with several instant classics. I just didn't enjoy "The Alchemist" so much.
 
Deconstructing Eddie: My Iron Maiden Songs & Albums Countdown - Songs #120 & 119

120. Sanctuary (Iron Maiden) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqkC-k3RoXE
"I've never killed a woman before but I know how it feels"

It's one of the best examples of Iron Maiden walking along that line that separates punk from metal, which is good in the sense that we have another energetic adrenaline-pumper that probably shines in a live setting. On the other hand though, it isn't too great because it adapts that overly simplistic feel that's somewhat typical in punk music as well - unless that's your thing of course. However, they obviously evolved to much great things; and now that we've all heard the band create a lot of epics that unravel in the most enjoyably complex way, this type of song just feels too much like the band underachieving to be reserved for a higher spot. I know that it's from the band's early days, which is probably part of the reason why it sounds very basic and raw. But even in that context, I just can't appreciate it past the level of an aggressive rocker. It's the least enjoyable track from their debut and a mediocre track that barely hints at what the band was capable of and was going to achieve later on in their career.


119. Heaven Can Wait (Somewhere in Time) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7GW_1vi_Q4
"Take my hand I'll lead you to the promised land"

There have been times when I've been broke, really hungry and all that's left out of last month's grocery is this small can of corned beef. What I do to make the most out of it is dice up some potatoes and chop some onions that have been in the crisper for a while, then mix them in with the beef while it cooks in the pan. It makes for a flling meal (or maybe even two). True story. But why on earth am I talking about food in this thread though? Well, as it turns out, “Heaven Can Wait” feels like it serves the exact kind of role that the potatoes and onions accomplish in that dish: Not filler; but rather, an extender. It's not so bad that it shouldn't have been on the album, but it also doesn't deserve the amount of space that it takes up on the record.

It's one of the worst songs on Somewhere in Time as well as one of the longest on it, and it doesn't help that I absolutely despise synths (which is why I hate a lot of 80's music in general) because this song has loads of it. It's bad enough that the song starts out with this smokey riff that never fails to put cyberpunkish Terminator-meets-Blade Runner sci-fi images in my mind, but that atmosphere continues on through the song with this cheery vibe that doesn't synergize with the lyrics at all.

On the positive side, it's obviously tailor-made for live performances with the sing-along chant and catchy repetitive chorus. It's also saved by the bridge portion, which is my favorite part and makes effective use of the galloping rhythm. Everything considered though, the song is simply too long and too 80's for my taste to place higher on my list.
 
Re: Deconstructing Eddie: My Iron Maiden Songs & Albums Countdown - Songs #120 & 119

valacirca said:
There have been times when I've been broke, really hungry and all that's left out of last month's grocery is this small can of corned beef. What I do to make the most out of it is dice up some potatoes and chop some onions that have been in the crisper for a while, then mix them in with the beef while it cooks in the pan. It makes for a flling meal (or maybe even two).

Here's someone who has obviously been a student. :D
 
Completely agree about Heaven Can Wait. I heard it for the first time on Flight 666 and it didn't really impact me like the rest of the songs (that DVD was one of the first times I heard Maiden). It's not a bad song by any means, but there's so many songs they've done that just seem like they leave more impact, but in less time.
 
I agree about HCW, in essence...because i love synth sounds, and i love that '80s feel.
However it also seems to me that HCW is last minute song, scrambled with leftover parts. Even Adrian's solo is somewhat uninspired, compared to rest of his solos on that record.
 
I like Heaven Can Wait... But I can also understand why someone doesn't like it.  Sanctuary I'm quite neutral to; I don't really mind where it goes.
 
i agree that heaven can waut is the worst on the record but i dont think iit saould be this low on the l89ist. i am vwery vwerty drunk ATM SO I WIULL EDIT MY POST TROMMORW ONCE IVE SOBERED UPH/ KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK VALA
 
  Heaven Can Wait is one of those songs on SIT that could have been so much better, if it  had left the synthesizers  out.  A meaner darker, guitar driven feel, with those great riffs and lyrics, would have been killer.  Great critique of an under achiever of a song.  Still get home sick for my youth and the late  80's when hearing it though!!  Sanctuary belongs here on the list.  You covered that song well.
 
Agreed Val.

As a Somewhere in Time lover I have always felt disappointed with Heaven Can Wait. All in all the song is quite solid but the chorus is weak. Coming in at track number 4 it holds a fairly critical position on the album...maybe Stranger in a Strange Land would have sat better in that spot. An opening four of CSIT, WY,SOM and SIASL would have been immortal.

Not sure why this is the most frequently played SIT...I hazard a guess that Steve loves it and in particular thinks the crowd loves the singalong part.
 
When I saw that HCW was so low, I initially was outraged, but after thinking it over a bit, I realized that the positioning is probably right (although at least one other SIT song should be lower==like Deja Vu).  This is one of the songs that comes across a lot stronger live than on the album itself. 
 
While I could never sit down and rank the songs (basically because aside from 3 or 4 exceptions I love them all) I appreciate the effort you're putting into this thread.  Good reading. 

Heaven Can Wait to me is a much better live song than a studio song. 
 
Re: Deconstructing Eddie: My Iron Maiden Songs & Albums Countdown - Songs #120 & 119

valacirca said:
120. Sanctuary (Iron Maiden) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqkC-k3RoXE
"I've never killed a woman before but I know how it feels"

It's one of the best examples of Iron Maiden walking along that line that separates punk from metal, which is good in the sense that we have another energetic adrenaline-pumper that probably shines in a live setting. On the other hand though, it isn't too great because it adapts that overly simplistic feel that's somewhat typical in punk music as well - unless that's your thing of course. However, they obviously evolved to much great things; and now that we've all heard the band create a lot of epics that unravel in the most enjoyably complex way, this type of song just feels too much like the band underachieving to be reserved for a higher spot. I know that it's from the band's early days, which is probably part of the reason why it sounds very basic and raw. But even in that context, I just can't appreciate it past the level of an aggressive rocker. It's the least enjoyable track from their debut and a mediocre track that barely hints at what the band was capable of and was going to achieve later on in their career.

Just a brief comment on the part of the quote which I've highlighted in bold: Although they made many fairly simple songs in their early days, it wasn't just that. Songs like Remember Tomorrow, Phantom of the Opera and the instrumentals showed that the musical maturity was there already. They (or he, 'Arry did the majority of songs on the two first albums by himself) probably made those "basic, raw songs" because they (he) wanted to. However, I agree on the conclusion, that songs like Sanctuary belong to the less great among their early stuff.
 
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