Classic cinema - thoughts and questions

She gets a bit overshadowed from that era, but she was a spectacular actress. Dark Mirror was very good as was her next movie, The Snake Pit
 
We have it at home but I still need to see The Snake Pit! The Heirress (1949), directed by William Wyler, is also very good.

A great run, she made these three films back to back, or at least, that's how they were released.

Here an interview from last month, in which she finally breaks her silence on Hollywood's most famous sibling rivalry, disclosing her feelings about her late sister Joan Fontaine, revealing that she calls her "Dragon Lady.": http://bigstory.ap.org/article/db59...ew-de-havilland-breaks-silence-sibling-feud-0
 
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We have it at home but I still need to see The Snake Pit! The Heirress (1949), directed by William Wyler, is also very good.

A great run, she made these three films back to back, or at least, that's how they were released.

Here an interview from last month, in which she finally breaks her silence on Hollywood's most famous sibling rivalry, disclosing her feelings about her late sister Joan Fontaine, revealing that she calls her "Dragon Lady.": http://bigstory.ap.org/article/db59...ew-de-havilland-breaks-silence-sibling-feud-0
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Interesting, she seems pretty sharp at her age. Would be nice if she would do more interviews, certainly a unique period of Hollywood and she is one of the few left to tell about it.
 
Can't say I know any work of him, but he certainly must be admired for continuing to work in a difficult climate.
 
RIP Gary Marshall. Created some of the most popular (ans some really good) US TV shows . I am not as big a fan of his movies, but they did well.

Marshall broke into showbiz in the late 1950s as a joke writer, eventually earning his way to becoming a writer on The Tonight Show with Jack Paar. In 1970, Marshall adapted his first TV hit, The Odd Couple, from a play with writing partner Jerry Belson. He went on to create sitcoms Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley (which starred his sister, Penny Marshall) and Mork & Mindy (which introduced the world to Robin Williams).In the '80s, Marshall turned his talents to feature films, finding his first hit with The Flamingo Kid (1984), followed by Overboard (1987) and Beaches (1989).The hits kept coming, from 1990's Pretty Woman (which propelled Julia Roberts to stardom), 1999's Runaway Bride and 2001's The Princess Diaries (which made Anne Hathaway a household name).
 
John Alton.. the ultimate, definitive film noir cinematographer. Painter with light!
"Out of the shadows and into the light!"

He studied Rembrandt (@4:40 ) and applied it to films @Perun
 
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Who likes Westerns out here? I guess I can say I do. I made a list of seen Westerns and wonder if people appreciate some of these or others I haven't seen yet. While I have various other titles laying around, I am always open for someone's suggestions and opinions, also if I'm already aware of a title. Here goes:

1932 Ride Him, Cowboy
1933 Sagebrush Trail
1933 Riders of Destiny
1933 West of the Divide
1934 The Trail Beyond
1934 The Star Packer
1934 Randy Rides Alone
1934 Neath the Arizona Skies
1934 The Man from Utah
1934 The Lucky Texan
1934 The Lawless Frontier
1934 Blue Steel
1935 Texas Terror
1935 Rainbow Valley
1935 Paradise Canyon
1935 Lawless Range
1935 The Desert Trail
1935 The Dawn Rider
1936 Winds of the Wasteland
1936 Rose-Marie
1936 The Plainsman
1936 Man of the Frontier (aka Red River Valley)
1937 Hell Town (aka Born to the West)
1938 The Texans
1938 Overland Stage Raiders
1939 Stagecoach
1939 The Oklahoma Kid
1939 Jesse James
1939 Dodge City
1939 Destry Rides Again
1940 The Westerner
1940 Virginia City
1940 The Return of Frank James
1940 Dark Command
1941 Western Union
1941 They Died With Their Boots On
1942 The Spoilers
1942 In Old California
1943 The Ox-Bow Incident
1943 The Outlaw
1943 In Old Oklahoma (aka War of the Wildcats)
1944 Tall in the Saddle
1945 San Antonio
1945 Dakota
1946 The Virginian
1946 My Darling Clementine
1946 Duel in the Sun
1946 Abilene Town
1947 Unconquered
1947 The Sea of Grass
1947 Pursued
1947 Bells of San Angelo
1947 Angel and the Bad Man
1948 Yellow Sky
1948 The Treasure of Sierra Madre
1948 Tap Roots
1948 Silver River
1948 Red River
1948 Fort Apache
1948 3 Godfathers
1949 She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
1949 Riders of the Whistling Pines
1949 The Fighting Kentuckian
1950 Winchester '73
1950 Rocky Mountain
1950 The Outriders
1950 The Gunfighter
1950 Devil's Doorway
1950 Broken Arrow
1951 Vengeance Valley
1951 Across the Wide Missouri
1952 High Noon
1952 Hangman's Knot
1952 Bend of the River
1953 Shane
1953 The Naked Spur
1953 The Man from the Alamo
1953 Hondo
1953 Escape from Fort Bravo
1954 Vera Cruz
1954 Track of the Cat
1954 The Far Country
1954 Broken Lance
1954 Apache
1954 Man with the Gun
1954 The Man from Laramie
1955 A Lawless Street
1955 Bad Day at Black Rock
1956 Tribute to a Bad Man
1956 Seven Men from Now
1956 The Searchers
1956 Friendly Persuasion
1956 The Fastest Gun Alive
1957 The Tin Star
1957 The Tall T
1957 The Quiet Gun
1957 Night Passage
1957 Decision at Sundown
1958 Man of the West
1958 The Bravados
1958 The Big Country
1959 Warlock
1959 Rio Bravo
1959 Ride Lonesome
1959 Last Train from Gun Hill
1959 The Horse Soldiers
1960 North to Alaska
1960 The Magnificent Seven
1960 Comanche Station
1960 Cimarron
1960 The Alamo
1961 The Two Rode Together
1961 One-Eyed Jacks
1961 The Misfits
1961 The Comancheros
1962 Ride the High Country
1962 The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
1962 Lonely Are the Brave
1962 How the West Was Won
1963 McLintock!
1964 A Fistful of Dollars
1964 Cheynenne Autumn
1965 For a Few Dollars More
1965 Shenandoah
1965 The Rounders
1966 The Rare Breed
1966 The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
1966 El Dorado
1966 A Big Hand for the Little Lady
1967 The War Wagon
1968 Once Upon a Time in the West
1968 Guns for San Sebastian
1968 Firecreek
1968 Coogan's Bluff
1968 Bandolero!
1969 The Wild Bunch
1969 The Undefeated
1969 True Grit
1969 Mackenna's Gold
1969 Heaven with a Gun
1969 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
1970 Two Mules for Sister Sara
1970 Rio Lobo
1970 Chisum
1970 The Cheyenne Social Club
1971 Red Sun
1971 The Beguiled
1973 The Train Robbers
1973 Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid
1973 My Name is Nobody
1973 Cahill U.S. Marshal
1974 Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
1975 Rooster Cogburn
1976 The Outlaw Josey Wales
1990 Dances With Wolves
1992 The Unforgiven
1995 The Quick and the Dead
2007 3:10 to Yuma
2015 The Revenant
2015 The Hateful Eight
 
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I will write more about your post when I'm home, but you're missing 1968's Il grande silenzio - very atypical, rather dark, somewhat similar to Hateful Eight in fact, with an excellent Morricone score and very demonic Kinski. :) A rather unusual and somewhat forgotten Western, IMHO.
 
Nice. It's on my wishlist and hope to see it one time. I'm curious to learn what you see as its strong aspects (although you've already done that) plus the same for other films, without revealing (too much) of the plot of course. ;)
 
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Surprised Django Unchained is not on the list.

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is one of the greatest movies of all time.
 
About Silenzio... well, like you yourself said, I've already mentioned the most stand-out parts, without giving too much away, but... It's a western, yet it's situated in mountains and snow (one of the connections to H8ful8), it's very bleak and depressing (just like H88) however unlike H88
it doesn't end well, not even remotely.
Kinski is a wonderful villain here and
the fact he actually wins in the end
makes it all the more better. Overall, it's a good deconstruction of the idea of "bounty hunters" (if that one even needed a deconstruction in the first place).

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1952 High Noon
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This one is good, but slightly overrated. The idea might be novel and the movie is refreshingly cynical, but apart from Cooper's and Kelly's performances, I remember too few today.

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1969 The Wild Bunch
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Now we're talking. Just like Leone one year before, Peckinpah gave the "old West" his own goodbye. This movie is a macho paradise - a passionate eulogy to the manliest of times, it shows a ... well, "bunch" of men realising they're becoming irrelevant and watching the old West die... so they go out in a spectacular way. Just like pretty much every Peckinpah movie, it's brutal, it's cynical and it's so manly, it just isn't suitable to women at all (except my wife, who's just amazing --- and even she had problems identifying herself with the movie, though).

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1964 A Fistful of Dollars
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Though I've seen the whole Dollars Trilogy, I will comment only on this one so far, because it was the only one I've seen recently enough to be sure what to think about it. Allegedly it's a remake of Kurosawa's Yojimbo, and though I wouldn't know, not having seen Yojimbo myself, it seems as if the inspirational story was from the far East. It's rather static and actually somewhat atypical of Western filmography, IMHO. Eastwood's character is appropriately cryptic. A very subtle movie, indeed.

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1990 Dances With Wolves
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Overrated and overlong, out of the movies here I've seen, it's definitely the worst. The theme is good, but IMHO put to better use in Zwick's Last Samurai - here it's just too much. Too long, too fatalistic, to Costner-ish. Not bad and I guess it even deserves its "classic" status, but to me it's the kind of movie you see only once and you don't mind at all.

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2015 The Hateful Eight
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This one is rather interesting, because not only it shows Tarantino's talent to create bizarre characters and engage them in bizarre dialogues, but Tarantino said he wanted to create a sequel of sorts to Carpenter's The Thing with this Western... and believe it or not, he more or less succeeded. This movie clicked in many ways with that one. And of course, there's the monologue about SLJ's Johnson. That's awesome too, in a way. I'm wondering whether with the darkness and the eerines of this movie Tarantino actually overdid Reservoir Dogs. Maybe he did.

That's all for now.
 
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This one is rather interesting, because not only it shows Tarantino's talent to create bizarre characters and engage them in bizarre dialogues, but Tarantino said he wanted to create a sequel of sorts to Carpenter's The Thing with this Western... and believe it or not, he more or less succeeded. This movie clicked in many ways with that one. And of course, there's the monologue about SLJ's Johnson. That's awesome too, in a way. I'm wondering whether with the darkness and the eerines of this movie Tarantino actually overdid Reservoir Dogs. Maybe he did.
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There's also at least one piece from The Thing in the soundtrack. I only heard one but I remember someone mentioning there were actually two.

I found Hateful Eight more engaging and suspenseful than Reservoir Dogs.
 
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There's also at least one piece from The Thing in the soundtrack. I only heard one but I remember someone mentioning there were actually two.
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Yeah, I also remember someone talking about two, but the one I noticed was this one:


Again, obviously intentional.
 
Yep that's the one I noticed too. Worked great for the scene too.

Morricone's score for H8ful was incredible BTW.
 
I agree but, let's be honest, using "Morricone" and "incredible" in the same sentence is kind of a pleonasm, isn't it?

That guy seems to merely - 1.) improve most movies / 2.) raise good movies to heavenly with his music alone / 3.) give appropriate aural backing to the best films of all time. I wish I were his mother so I could be so proud my heart would just explode. :D
 
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