Bands you love, songs you hate

SinisterMinisterX

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I got this idea from another forum, and I think it would be interesting to discuss it here.

Name a band who you generally love - that is, you like the vast majority of their songs. For example, Iron Maiden would qualify for most of us on this forum.

But then tell us one or more songs you dislike by that same band, and if possible why.

Please do not discuss Iron Maiden in this thread. There have already been many threads about Maiden's weaker songs. Also keep in mind that this is the General Discussion forum, which means no madness please. Finally, this is not only about metal bands - I'd love to see some diversity in this thread.



I'll start this off with Led Zeppelin, which is one of my all-time favorite bands. Some songs I don't like from them are...
"Communication Breakdown" ... sounds like primitive noise to me.
"You Shook Me" ... Slow, plodding, boring.
"Carouselambra" ... Ten minutes of mindless keyboards riffs.
 
Most bands I love made one or two songs I dislike, apart from a few exceptions. To hate or in other words to "terribly dislike" a track by a band I love is another thing.

What immediately comes to mind are the following ten tracks, all of the same album "Chameleon" (1993), by Helloween:

"First Time" (Weikath)
"When The Sinner" (Kiske)
"I Don't Wanna Cry No More" (Grapow)
"Crazy Cat" (Grapow)
"Windmill" (Weikath)
"Revolution Now" (Weikath)
"In The Night" (Kiske)
"Music" (Grapow)
"Step Out of Hell" (Grapow)
"Longing" (Kiske)

In fact, I can't stand the whole album apart from two unmentioned tracks, which are strangely enough very strong.

Reasons? Commercial shite music, unworthy for such a legendary power metal band.
 
I LOVE Chameleon! I think it's an awesome album for what it is... Commercial crap. Crazy Cat is brilliant! Though I agree Music and Revolution Now are especially crappy.
 
Well, I must admit that I haven’t heard the album in ages (I don’t even own it, I have refused to buy it), so I don’t even recall the differences between those tracks. I guess it’s the general feel, the whole atmosphere that annoyed me the most.
 
Queen. I think everybody who has been on this board for a while knows I love the band. But there's a couple of songs I wish they'd never recorded.

Get Down, Make Love (off News Of The World, 1977). Some people try to interpret this as an early statement of Freddie's about his homosexuality. To others, it's just a not very subtle song about sex. In any case, it's pretty pointless and I really can't find anything to like about it.
Body Language (off Hot Space, 1982). I really don't mind songs about sex, but Queen just haven't been very good at it. This one plain sucks.
Cool Cat (off Hot Space, 1982). Booooring.
Dancer (off Hot Space, 1982). Ugh.
Staying Power (off Hot Space, 1982). Erk.

There's a couple of other songs by the band I don't really care for, but these are the ones I really hate.

BTW, just for the record, I'd like to state that I don't share SMX's sentients about Communication Breakdown and You Shook Me, and I'd certainly put The Crunge on the list. :P
 
Pink Floyd. Despite their remarkable consistency in quality over 14 studio albums, some bad grapes can be found:

"The Grand Vizier's Garden Party" ... I like the second disc of Ummagumma for the most part, but Mason's solo piece just doesn't cut it.
"Vera" ... I can't believe a song as brilliant as "What Shall We Do Now?" was cut for time reasons with this on the album.
"Bring the Boys Back Home" ... See above.
"Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert" ... Pointless.
"Southampton Dock" ... Roger Waters reading his lyrics isn't very exciting.
"A New Machine" (Parts 1 and 2) ... Even for fillers, these are pretty bad.

Another song that comes to mind is Zeppelin's "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper"... what the hell is that all about?
 
Shadow said:
Another song that comes to mind is Zeppelin's "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper"... what the hell is that all about?

Agreed. Had they put Hey Hey What Can I do on the album instead, it would have been perfect.
 
Perun said:
BTW, just for the record, I'd like to state that I don't share SMX's sentients about Communication Breakdown and You Shook Me, and I'd certainly put The Crunge on the list. :P

I freakin' love "The Crunge". I think it helps to have some appreciation of funk to "get" that song. And in this case, I mean old, old, old funk - remember "The Crunge" is from 1973. It's mostly based on the feel of old James Brown grooves. Plus, the song is intentionally silly, which is unusual for Zep, and that might be part of why some people don't like it.

On a musician's-POV note: "The Crunge" is surprisingly difficult to play. I've tried it with one of my bands. Those odd time sigs will throw any musician for a loop. You may not like the song, but there's some superb musicianship to appreciate there.


Pink Floyd was mentioned...
"Welcome To The Machine" ... depressing, and notably fails to RAWK. A complete lack of \m/ o_o \m/.
 
The only Led Zeppelin song I ever (and nearly always) skip is Black Mountain Side. Other than that I'm struggling to think of a song I hate from a band I love.
 
national acrobat said:
The only Led Zeppelin song I ever (and nearly always) skip is Black Mountain Side. Other than that I'm struggling to think of a song I hate from a band I love.

I only skip All of my Love -and I 'm in love with No Quarter (that made me be a REAL Zep fan)

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So let's speak about Procol Harum that I'm listening right now
An enormously beloved band to me, I can't find something mediocre in their first 5 albums (1967 -1971)
But after the departure of mighty Robin Trower, their albums are less interesting (except maybe 1977's Something Magic)
The song that I hate the most from this period is Beatles' cover "8 days a week" -a song that I hate even when played by Beatles
'Nothing But The Truth" from 1974's Exotic Birds and Fruit comes next

Shine on Brightly -their 2nd and probably best album, 1968
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....and Procol's Ninth -probably their worst, 1975
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I also always thought The Beatles' "Love You To" was a blemish on an otherwise perfect album (Revolver).  No doubt the song was groundbreaking at the time -- George Harrison took them to India!!! -- but I'm over it. 
 
I know this is borderline blasphemy, but I find Painkiller (the song, not the album) by Judas Priest really annoying. The guitar work, especially the solo, is brilliant, but Halford really overdoes the vocals on the heavy parts, not to mention the lyrics are impossible to take seriously.
 
Well, Helphyre, it's your opinion, I respect that. Though it is very cheesy, I love the verses, they grow into you some way. :D

Anyway, the priest song I don't like is Defenders of the Faith, for being too underwhelming and not that good musical parts.

In power metal, I love Blind Guardian but songs like Valhalla aren't really appealing, the vocals aren't to pleasing there. BG has nice harsh vocals because they're clear but the tone of said song doesn't grow on me.
 
Mmm...Donuts said:
In power metal, I love Blind Guardian but songs like Valhalla aren't really appealing, the vocals aren't to pleasing there. BG has nice harsh vocals because they're clear but the tone of said song doesn't grow on me.

Fucking LOVE that song!!! Live is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVQ6JZiPc9w
Not saying everyone must love it too or that I disagree with your statement... I just love it... and it's great live... do not read any further into it and just watch the link already since the crowd participation is awesome like my power to make limeade not too sweet, not too bitter, but just right, Goldie Locks would be proud, she'd have it with her pourage that she stole from the bears who are hunting her down for breaking and entering, not to mention pourage theft, what a bitch! But she's hot which is why I let her in, getting paid in sex that is just right (like the pourage and limeade) is awesome, like the crowd participation in Valhalla so watch it, but you don't have to love it, you have already read too much into this if you've made it this far, so go read SMX's oddly sensical post in the conspiracy thread and encourage him to keep up the good work, because it's awesome, like the crowd participation in Valhalla....
 
Perun said:
Body Language (off Hot Space, 1982). I really don't mind songs about sex, but Queen just haven't been very good at it. This one plain sucks.
Cool Cat (off Hot Space, 1982). Booooring.
Dancer (off Hot Space, 1982). Ugh.
Staying Power (off Hot Space, 1982). Erk.
So - Hot Space is not their best then? Was this album the album that Roger Taylor had more creative input than on other albums? For some reason, I seem to recall something along those lines.

The problem with me is this: Name a band who you generally love - that is, you like the vast majority of their songs. Outside metal/rock, there is not really any band that falls into that category for me. A lot of non-rock acts have occasional brilliance overly peppered with complete dross. So I don't have an act I can put forward here.

In terms of metal acts, I love Slayer but I do find that I can't really listen to Divine Intervention at all. It just sounds a bit too repetitive for me. But as for the rest of their stuff, I will gladly play any other album without really skipping any track.

I love all that Onslaught have done, but I do find the odd track on In Search of Sanity a tad too polished in comparison to their other albums - in saying that, it does contain one of the greatest metal ballads of all time, Welcome to Dying. The riffs are good on this album, as crunching as anything Metallica has done, but I do feel that it lacks the overall punch. And Asylum, although a good idea as an album opener, needed to be cut a lot shorter - perhaps 1-2 minutes as oppose to 5.

I am only really familiar with the first four albums by Stiff Little Fingers and again, this is brilliant stuff - but the departure they made from a raw punk outfit (Inflammable Material) to a more melodic radio friendly rock in the album Now Then does tend to grate on me a little - although it is a good album.
 
Albie said:
In terms of metal acts, I love Slayer but I do find that I can't really listen to Divine Intervention at all. It just sounds a bit too repetitive...

You mean like ALL their stuff? :p
 
Albie said:
The problem with me is this: Name a band who you generally love - that is, you like the vast majority of their songs. Outside metal/rock, there is not really any band that falls into that category for me. A lot of non-rock acts have occasional brilliance overly peppered with complete dross. So I don't have an act I can put forward here.

I never said metal was off-topic. I merely anticipated that metal bands would get mentioned quite frequently, and meant that people should also look outside that genre. But talking about non-Maiden metal bands is also good here.
 
Albie said:
So - Hot Space is not their best then? Was this album the album that Roger Taylor had more creative input than on other albums? For some reason, I seem to recall something along those lines.

Hot Space is indeed the album you should get last. There's some terrific tunes on it (Put Out The Fire, Under Pressure, Life Is Real), but in general, the album is average to sub-average. It's also one of Queen's least popular albums, because, for the most part, it abandoned the hard rock sounds of the past in favour of funk/disco tunes and synth domination.
Don't quote me on it, but I think the one Taylor had most creative input on was The Game (1980). Although I think that's mostly because he was the one to push the band into using synthesisers.

Oh yeah, I have to agree that Valhalla is brilliant live. It's certainly a highlight to every gig, and in fact, when I saw Guardian in '06, we were singing the chorus for about five minutes after the song was over.
 
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