A new test thing (political this time)
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StrangerInAStrangeLand
Ancient Mariner
[!--QuoteBegin-IronDuke+Jun 1 2005, 10:29 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(IronDuke @ Jun 1 2005, 10:29 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]This forum is predominantly non-american (lots of Euros). It's instinctive for non-Americans these days to see everything that isn't President Bush as good and anything having to do with him as evil (ie Republicanism, Christianity, etc)
This is the correct answer to the lack of righties. On a metal forum I post at, roughly half of the posters are on the left and roughly half of them on the right. Most of the posters there are Americans.
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[/quote]This is the correct answer to the lack of righties. On a metal forum I post at, roughly half of the posters are on the left and roughly half of them on the right. Most of the posters there are Americans.
StrangerInAStrangeLand
Ancient Mariner
[!--QuoteBegin-MexicanBurtReynolds+Jun 1 2005, 07:39 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(MexicanBurtReynolds @ Jun 1 2005, 07:39 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Anarchism 100%
Fascism 67%
How can you score so high for both Anarchism and Fascism? It might be the test's fault, but aren't these two parties virtually opposites? [img src=\'http://www.metal-rules.com/bb/images/smiles/headscratch.gif\' border=\'0\' alt=\'user posted image\' /]
Fascism 67%
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[/quote]How can you score so high for both Anarchism and Fascism? It might be the test's fault, but aren't these two parties virtually opposites? [img src=\'http://www.metal-rules.com/bb/images/smiles/headscratch.gif\' border=\'0\' alt=\'user posted image\' /]
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[!--QuoteBegin-StrangerInAStrangeLand+Jun 4 2005, 01:31 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(StrangerInAStrangeLand @ Jun 4 2005, 01:31 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]How can you score so high for both Anarchism and Fascism? It might be the test's fault, but aren't these two parties virtually opposites? [img src=\'http://www.metal-rules.com/bb/images/smiles/headscratch.gif\' border=\'0\' alt=\'user posted image\' /]
Not trying to make this a discussion on political science, but wouldn't it be equally strange to get Anarchism 100% and Socialism 73%? Which someone got close to that earlier. My guess is that the author of the test might have used Anarchism and Libertarian as one in the same. Socialism and Fascism both have goverment controls on both economic freedom and personal freedom making them both the virtual opposite of Anarchism. But to answer your question, my political views are slightly to the right of Libertarian.
Forgive me if you think my reasoning is flawed, I graduated college six years ago, and mostly drank beer and skipped class while there.
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[/quote]Not trying to make this a discussion on political science, but wouldn't it be equally strange to get Anarchism 100% and Socialism 73%? Which someone got close to that earlier. My guess is that the author of the test might have used Anarchism and Libertarian as one in the same. Socialism and Fascism both have goverment controls on both economic freedom and personal freedom making them both the virtual opposite of Anarchism. But to answer your question, my political views are slightly to the right of Libertarian.
Forgive me if you think my reasoning is flawed, I graduated college six years ago, and mostly drank beer and skipped class while there.
According to the traditional left-right scale, anarchism isn't really there. You have to remember that an anarchist believes (idiodically in my opinion) that the best government is no government. While this somewhat works in small villages, it cannot work on the scale we today use.
Socialism and facism are on near opposite ends of the left-right spectrum, as facism is a dictatorial-style of control, while socialism is a democratic-style of control. (Remember, true Communism, on the far left, was not experienced by the mostly dictatorial USSR and their satellite nations.)
Socialism and facism are on near opposite ends of the left-right spectrum, as facism is a dictatorial-style of control, while socialism is a democratic-style of control. (Remember, true Communism, on the far left, was not experienced by the mostly dictatorial USSR and their satellite nations.)
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Nazi
67% [!--emo&:lmao:--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/lol.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'lol.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
Democrat
58%
Fascism
50%
Republican
50%
Green
33%
Socialist
33%
Anarchism
33%
Communism
25%
67% [!--emo&:lmao:--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/lol.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'lol.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
Democrat
58%
Fascism
50%
Republican
50%
Green
33%
Socialist
33%
Anarchism
33%
Communism
25%
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
[!--QuoteBegin-ripper_a_x+Jun 6 2005, 07:32 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(ripper_a_x @ Jun 6 2005, 07:32 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Nazi
67% [!--emo&:lmao:--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/lol.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'lol.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
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67% [!--emo&:lmao:--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/lol.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'lol.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
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[/quote]hmmm looks like Mav has a new partner in crime [!--emo&
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Whatever you may think, National Socialism is definitely NOT my political orientation. [!--emo&
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Ancient Mariner
[!--QuoteBegin-Onhell+May 31 2005, 03:54 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Onhell @ May 31 2005, 03:54 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I oppose abortion no matter the case or circumstance for religious reasons as well as secular ones... terminating a life no matter how "developed" it is is just plain wrong. However, I do believe it is the state's job to look after the safety of its citizens which includes medical care. I prefer for a woman to get a legal abortion at a clean hospital with a trained physician than have it done in some dirty alley by some butcher because it is illegal.
I hate this fucking abortion issue. If I were a smart Christian, I wouldn't be spending all my time and effort fighting for the rights of some cell clumps and instead focus that energy on helping out those starving overseas---those who are unquestionably human. And what of the poor and starving in their own country? Oh, that's right! Conservative Christians are also against social welfare programs. Taxes=bad. Being "pro-life" should entail more than just increasing the quantity of life, which is a stupid cause anyways. Less people=good.
I mean, fuck... You Xian dicks don't don't seem to give a damn when tons of animals are put through a grinder, so that we have an extra patty on our burgers. If you think about it, don't animals have a higher level of consciouness than these unborn clumps of cells you call human? Those un-children are not even aware that they're missing anything at all. And it's nowhere near the amount of fertilized zygotes who die through normal menstrual cycles every month -- why don't the Xians wage war on the frickin' period? And who gave Xians the right to draw the arbitrary line at conception? Oh, I suppose it's genocide when I step into a hot tub and charbroil a load of sperm. For all we know, the next Einstein, Shakespeare, or Adrian Smith could have been inside my shriveled sack.
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[/quote]I hate this fucking abortion issue. If I were a smart Christian, I wouldn't be spending all my time and effort fighting for the rights of some cell clumps and instead focus that energy on helping out those starving overseas---those who are unquestionably human. And what of the poor and starving in their own country? Oh, that's right! Conservative Christians are also against social welfare programs. Taxes=bad. Being "pro-life" should entail more than just increasing the quantity of life, which is a stupid cause anyways. Less people=good.
I mean, fuck... You Xian dicks don't don't seem to give a damn when tons of animals are put through a grinder, so that we have an extra patty on our burgers. If you think about it, don't animals have a higher level of consciouness than these unborn clumps of cells you call human? Those un-children are not even aware that they're missing anything at all. And it's nowhere near the amount of fertilized zygotes who die through normal menstrual cycles every month -- why don't the Xians wage war on the frickin' period? And who gave Xians the right to draw the arbitrary line at conception? Oh, I suppose it's genocide when I step into a hot tub and charbroil a load of sperm. For all we know, the next Einstein, Shakespeare, or Adrian Smith could have been inside my shriveled sack.
[!--QuoteBegin-StrangerInAStrangeLand+Jun 10 2005, 05:30 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(StrangerInAStrangeLand @ Jun 10 2005, 05:30 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]...You Xian dicks...
[span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Watch it, SIASL.[/span]
That sounds too much like it's personally directed at Onhell, a valued member of this community. Like you, I disagree with his beliefs. But that's no excuse to attack him personally. Consider this a formal warning from the moderator squad. Keep this discussion civil, or face the consequences.
I have posted this warning publicly because I want to ensure that all persons involved here understand that further insults will not be tolerated in this thread. It's not just SIASL who's on the line here. If you want to discuss abortion, fine; if you want to fight, take it to email.
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[/quote][span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Watch it, SIASL.[/span]
That sounds too much like it's personally directed at Onhell, a valued member of this community. Like you, I disagree with his beliefs. But that's no excuse to attack him personally. Consider this a formal warning from the moderator squad. Keep this discussion civil, or face the consequences.
I have posted this warning publicly because I want to ensure that all persons involved here understand that further insults will not be tolerated in this thread. It's not just SIASL who's on the line here. If you want to discuss abortion, fine; if you want to fight, take it to email.
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
[!--QuoteBegin-StrangerInAStrangeLand+Jun 10 2005, 11:30 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(StrangerInAStrangeLand @ Jun 10 2005, 11:30 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I hate this fucking abortion issue. If I were a smart Christian, I wouldn't be spending all my time and effort fighting for the rights of some cell clumps and instead focus that energy on helping out those starving overseas---those who are unquestionably human. And what of the poor and starving in their own country? Oh, that's right! Conservative Christians are also against social welfare programs. Taxes=bad. Being "pro-life" should entail more than just increasing the quantity of life, which is a stupid cause anyways. Less people=good. [/quote]
I hate the abortion issue too.... it shouldn't happen period. What kind of person decides to kill a defenseless human being (even if they are "a clump of cells" they are human cells and it is growing). You know nothing of christianity. We promote life AND celibacy, sex ONLY to procreate and ONLY under the sanctity of Marriage. We are not responsible for hypocrites and idiots.
We also help the hungry, who do you think runs the major missions in Africa and Asia and Latin America? I don't see any buddhists doing it, or Jews....
[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I mean, fuck... You Xian dicks don't don't seem to give a damn when tons of animals are put through a grinder, so that we have an extra patty on our burgers. If you think about it, don't animals have a higher level of consciouness than these unborn clumps of cells you call human?
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Unless you are a vegetarian you are being a hypocrite. You have to eat something and meat just happens to be an essential part of the human diet, so equating putting cows through the slaughter house to FEED people to murder makes no sense to me.
[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] Those un-children are not even aware that they're missing anything at all. [/quote]
That is what makes it even more sad to terminate them before they can even experiance anything. [!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] And it's nowhere near the amount of fertilized zygotes who die through normal menstrual cycles every month [/quote]
that is simply not true, women menstruate UNFERTILIZED eggs, unless they are on the pill and that is why we oppose it as a method of contraception because it is early abortion. If it happens naturally it is a miscarraige and.. oh well. -- [!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] why don't the Xians wage war on the frickin' period? [/quote] Acutally they did and that is why women were 'unpure', 'unclean' and 'evil temptresses' for centuries. [!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] And who gave Xians the right to draw the arbitrary line at conception? Oh, I suppose it's genocide when I step into a hot tub and charbroil a load of sperm. For all we know, the next Einstein, Shakespeare, or Adrian Smith could have been inside my shriveled sack. [/quote] Masterbation is also a sin for the reasons you just mentioned, oh and it also falls under the "Lust" catergory.
This friendly explanation brought to you by your Resident Monk. I suggest next time take a deep breath and wait at least an hour before answering something that has clearly angered you so much. Thanks to SMX I decided to take this advice myself [!--emo&--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/biggrin.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'biggrin.gif\' /][!--endemo--].
NOTE: when I say "we" I mean Roman Catholics, but it is safe to assume most if not all Christian denominations hold/held same/similar beliefs.
I hate the abortion issue too.... it shouldn't happen period. What kind of person decides to kill a defenseless human being (even if they are "a clump of cells" they are human cells and it is growing). You know nothing of christianity. We promote life AND celibacy, sex ONLY to procreate and ONLY under the sanctity of Marriage. We are not responsible for hypocrites and idiots.
We also help the hungry, who do you think runs the major missions in Africa and Asia and Latin America? I don't see any buddhists doing it, or Jews....
[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I mean, fuck... You Xian dicks don't don't seem to give a damn when tons of animals are put through a grinder, so that we have an extra patty on our burgers. If you think about it, don't animals have a higher level of consciouness than these unborn clumps of cells you call human?
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Unless you are a vegetarian you are being a hypocrite. You have to eat something and meat just happens to be an essential part of the human diet, so equating putting cows through the slaughter house to FEED people to murder makes no sense to me.
[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] Those un-children are not even aware that they're missing anything at all. [/quote]
That is what makes it even more sad to terminate them before they can even experiance anything. [!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] And it's nowhere near the amount of fertilized zygotes who die through normal menstrual cycles every month [/quote]
that is simply not true, women menstruate UNFERTILIZED eggs, unless they are on the pill and that is why we oppose it as a method of contraception because it is early abortion. If it happens naturally it is a miscarraige and.. oh well. -- [!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] why don't the Xians wage war on the frickin' period? [/quote] Acutally they did and that is why women were 'unpure', 'unclean' and 'evil temptresses' for centuries. [!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] And who gave Xians the right to draw the arbitrary line at conception? Oh, I suppose it's genocide when I step into a hot tub and charbroil a load of sperm. For all we know, the next Einstein, Shakespeare, or Adrian Smith could have been inside my shriveled sack. [/quote] Masterbation is also a sin for the reasons you just mentioned, oh and it also falls under the "Lust" catergory.
This friendly explanation brought to you by your Resident Monk. I suggest next time take a deep breath and wait at least an hour before answering something that has clearly angered you so much. Thanks to SMX I decided to take this advice myself [!--emo&
--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/biggrin.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'biggrin.gif\' /][!--endemo--]. NOTE: when I say "we" I mean Roman Catholics, but it is safe to assume most if not all Christian denominations hold/held same/similar beliefs.