A national tragedy for Canada

IronDuke

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From [a href=\'http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/03/03/alberta-shooting050303.html\' target=\'_blank\']CBC News[/a]

4 Mounties, gunman die at Alberta drug site
Last Updated Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:44:40 EST
CBC News

MAYERTHORPE, ALTA. - Four RCMP officers died Thursday when a man with a high-powered rifle began shooting during an investigation into a marijuana grow operation in northwestern Alberta.

"It's my sad duty to inform you that four members of the RCMP were killed today in the line of duty – four brave young members," RCMP Assistant Commissioner Bill Sweeney told reporters at a late-afternoon news briefing.
The Quonset hut that police suspect held the marijuana growing operation in Rochfort Bridge, Alta.

In Canadian police terms, said Sweeney, "You'd have to go back to about 1885 in RCMP history and the Northwest Rebellion to have a loss of this magnitude. It's devastating."

Police said a fifth person described as "a male suspect" had been found dead at the scene of the crime, a farm near the hamlet of Rochfort Bridge.

He added that a number of police officers had been guarding the scene since the night before as part of an investigation into illegal marijuana growing and stolen property.

Two of the dead officers had been among the team who were at the Quonset hut overnight, Oakes said.

Rochfort Bridge is located near Mayerthorpe, a town of 1,700 where the RCMP detachment is based, about 130 kilometres northwest of Edmonton.

Three of the dead officers were members of the Mayerthorpe detachment and the fourth was from the RCMP's Whitecourt detachment.
News vehicles were kept away from the scene through the day while police investigated.

Family members of the slain officers began arriving at the Mayerthorpe detachment Thursday afternoon, some of them weeping as they were escorted into the building by uniformed Mounties.

Officers stopped responding to radio calls

Earlier in the day, Solicitor General Harvey Cenaiko told CBC News that details of the trouble that broke out at about 10 a.m. Thursday morning were sketchy.

"As far as we know, there's four officers not responding to their radios, so there is an indication that something is serious here," Cenaiko said.

"[The situation] is still active and they have a number of resources that are on scene or going to the scene."

Sgt. Rick Oncescu, who is with the RCMP in Calgary, said two SWAT teams were called to the area Thursday morning.

A military spokesman said about 20 soldiers and two armoured vehicles were sent to the area after police called for military assistance at about midday.

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The entire country is disgusted by this. I feel like the country has lost a bit of its innocence this week. This kind of stuff doesn't happen in small-town Canada. It ay seem odd that one of the most liberal countries in the world has as a national symbol a police officer, but the Mounties are pillars of the communities they serve. I don't know how it is in other countries, but we generally have no ill-will toward the police here, and respect and admire the job they do.

My former room-mate is currently in Regina, SK training to become a Mountie. I feel like I should call him or something.

Has this made the news elsewhere in the world? What do you think of the entire thing?

Maintiens le droit
 
Thats tragic. But it is nice to know that policemen in Canada are respected firgures of the community. Total contrast from California. Its good to be able to trust and respect law enforcers. The only problem is it makes situations like this harder to deal with. Overall very sad, and its a real shame things didnt go down a different way.



P.S-no, it hasnt made the news here.
 
This event hasn't made the news over here in Switz, where the Police is mainly there to give speeding/parking tickets (although it has increased in recent years, the number of violent crimes is still very low as compared to the neighbouring countries). I don't think a policeman has even ever been shot here.

Still Life, I find your signature quite inappropriate, mostly in a thread like this.

Duke, you have my sympathy, as you seem hurt, not only because or the death of those young men, but also because it's the symbol of a whole country that's been attacked. Let's hope that it was a "freak incident", as they say, and that it won't re-occur.
 
Thanks Mav. The guys killed were not much older than me, and it really struck close to home because of my pal in the RCMP.

And Still Life, I know your signature was just a coincidence. I doubt you'd do that on purpose!
 
This event made the news in Romania, but down here, there's so many news about death and killing (especially about road accidents) that I didn't think much of it... untill now. As i said, there's so much emphasis on death in the media in romania, that as long as i don't know the guy, i don't really care, and when when i firs saw the thread i was like "4 dead people is a tragedy for Canada?! :wink: ". But now I realise that in a country where killing is so rare, 4 dead people is a mini 9/11.
 
I live in Canada, and though I can't sympathise with the tragedy, unfortunately, I know that such a thing should never happen, especially in such a small town. Here in Toronto, the cops aren't the most friendly, but as stated, there is probably more respect for them among the population. A massacre of this type is simply uncommon in any part of the country, let alone a rural community.

Hopefully this won't discourage your friend from joining the RCMP, Duke. I'm quite sure this is an isolated incident, even if a bloody one.


[!--QuoteBegin-Black Ace+Mar 5 2005, 09:41 AM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Black Ace @ Mar 5 2005, 09:41 AM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]But now I realise that in a country where killing is so rare, 4 dead people is a mini 9/11.[/quote]It's not that it's such a rare incident for somebody to be murdered (in Toronto we practically get one every day or two), but just the fact that it was a small town, and the fact that all four of the RCMP officers were pretty much mowed down. From what I know, they didn't even have time to put up much of a fight.
 
I remember when I lived in Canada, a policeman was shot in Toronto. That was treated as a very big tragedy, and I remember being surprised at this, because I thought policemen being killed was a common thing... but not in Canada, as I learned back then.
I have a big respect and trust in the police, but I sadly have to say that is a very uncommon attitude in Germany. It's not that the police is misusing it's powers or there is any other reason or something, but the general attitude is that you have to dislike the police to be cool.
 
That is one thing I like about Canada, the police are respectful to the community and the community is respectful to the police. Unlike in Mexico where the Police are, for the most part, a big pain. And in the states they are an even bigger pain because they only accept payoffs if you are a celebrity or a millionare [!--emo&:D--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/biggrin.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'biggrin.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
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