jazz from hell
Ancient Mariner
I was just driving my car when the squirrels in my backyard disowned my nuts, which my left shoe is also the bananas.
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Trevoire
Ancient Mariner
I'm really concerned about how much almost everyone in business is just sucking up to Trump. Everyone's just worrying about not upsetting dear leader in case he attacks them. It's appeasement and won't end well.
It's so blatantly obvious that a huge authoritarian power grab is happening and there's just so little resistance to it.
The Mrs and I normally spend thousands annually on a big Florida holiday.
We're now not going anywhere near the US for the foreseeable future. Frankly I'm not sure if there's any coming back from this.
It's so blatantly obvious that a huge authoritarian power grab is happening and there's just so little resistance to it.
The Mrs and I normally spend thousands annually on a big Florida holiday.
We're now not going anywhere near the US for the foreseeable future. Frankly I'm not sure if there's any coming back from this.
Aggelos
Ancient Mariner
the greater good... LOL
the only thing corporations understand is money.
funny thing is that the US is so divided that they might actually lose money no matter what they do. keep him and lose the republican, let him goand lose the democrats.
it's gonna be an awkward moment, the one where corporate boses realize their client base is potentially cut in half and they actually have to choose sides.
this could be the begining of the end for Trump.
I’m not sure either. i think we went past the point of no return when most voters decided to re-elect someone who previously responded to an election loss by trying to stage a coup and promised on the campaign trail to throw the constitution out. The fact there is an obvious authoritarian power grab happening and this thread is more interested in hand wringing over Charlie Kirk or what some random blogger is saying shows how far gone the country is imo. Even if democrats somehow won a supermajority in congress and the presidency in 2028, we still have a too large group of people who are either ambivalent toward fascism or simply fascists themselves (and too many people afraid to call out obvious fascism).
The only thing left to pull the country from the brink is for Trump, who should never have been allowed to hold office again, to be forcibly removed from office through the legal process of impeachment or the 25th amendment which will only happen if it becomes obvious that he has lost popular support among his voters, which is not even close to happening right now.
I fear that corporations have begun to realize that they can still function in an authoritarian state client base be damned. Kimmel being put back on the air after public pressure makes me wonder, but also it has been alarming see how easily corporate America has bent over in less than a year.
Aggelos
Ancient Mariner
I won't disagree or argue, especially considering I do not live there. But bent over is one thing, lose money is a completely different beast. So the question is, are they actually losing money? Is their client base cut in half, or do eople still buy products and services from those corporations? In capitalism the only power we have is the one given to us by our wallets. I am not saying it's right of course, but it's the sad truth.
I'm not sure. When I read reports of how much Disney was losing in subscription money, I wasn't really sure if that was actually a lot of money in the grand scheme (I'm still not). It seems like something made a difference if ABC walked back their suspension of Kimmel so quickly, but I am also curious to see what his show looks like now.
But overall you're right, I don't think we have seen the mass resistance others are describing in this thread. I think I've said before that the last barrier between Trump and a full totalitarian state is a functional capitalist system where people can still buy things and feel like they have freedom to vote with their wallet. Corporate America needs this to survive, and I have assumed that if Trump starts to make it hard for people to spend money (either through an economic collapse or by trying to silence his opponents, it appears we are getting both), corporate America will turn against him. We'll just say I feel less confident in this after the last week.
Trevoire
Ancient Mariner
I'm not sure if that can even happen at this point. The Republican party is so wrapped around his finger, and the Trump supporters are so cult like. They know any action against him will lose them support and power.
There was a very brief period after Jan 6th that it seemed like the party was going to quit the Trump drug, they realised it had gone too far, but it only lasted a day or two, and then they all went to maralgo to kiss the ring and feel back into line.
The Dems I don't think the appetite for another impeachment. They tried last time and the Republicans just shrugged their shoulders and said "yeah but he's our guy, so it's ok"
Even with a majority I don't think they want to expend the political capital to do it.
Well that's the rub, believe it or not America is still a country run by the people for the people and right now Trump's tyranny is what the people want. I strongly believe that if voters indicated they opposed what Trump was doing now and Republicans felt that there were electoral consequences for standing up to him, Trump would be impeached immediately. As of now, voters have (repeatedly) sent a clear signal that if you don't kiss the ring as a Republican, you get a primary.
2026 is going to be interesting. If it's bad enough for the GOP and Trump is entering the lame duck period without the ability to do anything in congress, I wonder if the self preservation instinct will start to kick in for some Republicans, not to mention those with national ambitions. At some point they're going to want him to make way for the next president.
As for Democrats, frankly I think the party is so broken they are going to struggle to have any sort of unifying message until the 2028 primary. Around this time in 2017, a message around Obamacare and social security was starting to develop and Democrats were starting to build a story around the 2018 midterms. Right now? I am not even entirely sure Democrats in congress are still showing up to work. They might just sleepwalk into a majority in 2026 and impeach Trump a few times just because they're all out of ideas.
srfc
Ancient Mariner
Saw a great one yesterday that was a collection of tweets and memes on Youtube, with an AI voice reading out the text. One of the tweets had the word Hellscape in it, and the AI pronounced it Heilscape
jazz from hell
Ancient Mariner
Wikipedia is okay though? And what about lists from random people on Twitter or Bluesky?
It is possible to disagree without calling Azas a fascist and without mirroring Trump's hate and division.
I have cancelled a few US subscription services. Not sure if it's the right thing to do, but it's at least something I CAN do. I have also contributed in talking a friend and his family out of visiting the US this fall; now they'll stay in Europe.
It is possible to disagree without calling Azas a fascist and without mirroring Trump's hate and division.
I have cancelled a few US subscription services. Not sure if it's the right thing to do, but it's at least something I CAN do. I have also contributed in talking a friend and his family out of visiting the US this fall; now they'll stay in Europe.
Yax
Ancient Mariner
The English Wikipedia generally provides links to citations to back up its claims. Chat-GPT generally does not and when it does upon request, it is often made-up citations.
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Vaenyr
Ancient Mariner
Wikipedia lists its sources. Also, Azas is the one who keeps spamming Twitter threads lol
Who called Azas a fascist?
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
Politics having nothing to do with it, I've cut down on so many streaming services. Only have an F1TV service and MLB.TV (for fantasy baseball purposes) service. Even then the ownership/administration structure for MLB is getting changed for next year it sounds like, so that'll be going bye-bye.
Just don't watch too much TV.
MrKnickerbocker
clap hands
So funny. Actions befitting of a world leader. Such a shining beacon for American morality and values.
Detective Beauregard
Leviathan of Doggerland
I heard there’s talk of restructuring the divisions (after adding two expansion teams) to be like the NFL: eight divisions, four teams apiece. We can take this into the MLB topic if you want.
Go Twins go!!! They're kickin' some ass this year! 
I’m very much the same. MLB and NFL are about it for me.
Spaldy
Ancient Mariner
This is actually a serious security fuck up. The general assembly is typically highly coordinated with hundreds of world leaders and VIPs in New York. This all requires coordination between governments, secret services and local police. Clearly there's been a breakdown somewhere. No doubt due to Trump's gutting of the various integral systems that are required to run a functioning state.
Or worse, it was deliberate.