Russia invades Ukraine

Well, as predicted announcement was rather weak. Transfer of weapons and multiple patriot systems is good but rest? Threat of another potential sanctions in 50 days is hilarious. That big timeframe is designed only for Trump to change his mind around day 25th of said count down.
 
LooseCannon said:
100% tariffs on almost zero trade! Oh no!
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In fairness, it’s a 100% secondary tariff, meaning an additional 100% tariff on all countries that trade with Russia.

Not necessarily endorsing the idea, but the impact of it would be significant.
 
Jer said:
In fairness, it’s a 100% secondary tariff, meaning an additional 100% tariff on all countries that trade with Russia.

Not necessarily endorsing the idea, but the impact of it would be significant.
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Yeah, I was just reading this. By far the largest trading partner with Russia is China, so Trump may be going back to sky high tariffs on Russia if there's no TACO involved. The next two largest trading partners are Germany and the Netherlands.

I'm not sure this is a good plan, folks.
 
If Trump really did that, he’s showing the russians he knows how to play their game. Smart move. Even if it’s just rhetoric—that’s exactly how you deal with thugs.
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Azas said:
Exactly! russia is conducting countless covert hybrid operations, attacks, and long-term strategies—all aimed at weakening and eventually collapsing democratic countries from within. Hello, AfD! Bribes, blackmail—you name it. They’re absolutely exploiting mass immigration for that purpose (Syria, anyone?).

And the scary part is, they don’t even need their opponents to collapse outright. A pro-russian government in the West? That’s the real prize. They want the West to turn a blind eye to their true, vile nature while continuing to buy their oil and gas like obedient sheep.

And I suspect there are even people here on this very forum who still don’t believe that russia is relentlessly gnawing away at the very foundations of Western values and peaceful coexistence.

Yet there are still voices in the West calling for a return to “normal.” That world is gone. We are entering an age of daggers and deceitful grins.
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Over attribution of complex outcomes to Russia’s malign activity…

The malign activity is certainly in evidence, I don’t dispute that.

But your line of thinking falls into the trap of being so overly aggrieved by Russia’s heinous actions in Ukraine, that you are over attributing cause and effect to Russia.

Some of the things you list benefit Russia but are not caused by Russia solely, or even predominantly.

Many of the problems and instabilities faced by Western counties come from other forces.
 
He doesn't give a toss about Zelensky, not even for trapping him, he just tries to salvage himself. He put himself in an impossible position with the secondary tariffs, then India and China (and Brazil) called his bluff and now he's trying to escape from that corner, sending Witkoff to Moscow in the eleventh hour to meet Putin and play negotiation show that's all.
He may try to sell Ukraine, then he'll face backlash enabling him to back off and save face, having an excuse to not proceed with secondary tariffs since he "tried".

Having said that, I don't claim to make sense of what's Trump is trying to do in the bigger picture about Ukraine, he's all over the place.
For example in the White House's fact sheet about his executive order, which is legislation and real policy, not BS-ing it's clearly mentioned that "Russian Federation’s actions in Ukraine pose an ongoing threat to U.S. national security and foreign policy".
I tend to believe this line of action than the theatrics of meeting Putin in Alaska, but still it's confusing.
 
This whole new round of Trump’s shenanigans looks very bad and weak. Basically, he’s going to reward the invaders. Is he really this stupid, or is he already dreaming about a Nobel Prize? Where are the promised sanctions on russia, etc.? Back to square one. Then he’ll shout that Zelensky has no cards to play...

And putin’s trip to Alaska is legitimizing a war criminal. Insane.
 
It’s not about ICC or laws per se, Putin has travelled to Mongolia and red-carpetted instead of arrested. Ursula /EU protested then. It’s about pretexts, any EU /NATO ICC abiding country would be under immense pressure to arrest Putin by the same people that turned a blind eye to Netanyahu’s visit.

Speaking about Ursula there a video where she’s talking about free speech and how in Russia one’s would be arrested for shouting against Putin and at this very moment police dragged away someone shouting against her :D

https://twitter.com/x/status/1953880053021901185
 
Black Abyss Babe said:
That person is less likely to disappear or turn up dead though, to be fair.
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Not only that, a person who is shouting and disrupting a public speaking appearance of a politician (regardless of the validity of their complaints, I couldn't make out what he was shouting) being removed is totally fair and a normal thing that happens everywhere in the world. The person was escorted out, not arrested and locked away. To even compare that to what happens in countries like Russia is ridiculous.
 
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