What do you think of the rock/metal 1990's? Really such a bad & boring decade?

[JudasMyGuide]

musical wankery

Haters of DT not using the w- word for once = level impossible. How dare you use the fifth chord in a single song!

 

[Eddie's Uncle]

There were Faith No More with Angel Dust

Actually, I think FNM was better in the 80s. We Care A Lot beats Angel Dust.

, there were Pantera (however much you want to complain about them being dudebro or, eh, "ladbloke", don't tell me you haven't enjoyed the shit out of Cowboys from Hell)

Never hated them, but never particularly enjoyed them either. They ripped off Exhorder to the point of plain stealing. If I listen to Pantera, it is Vulgar Display of Power.

, there was some cool death metal (Death, Cannibal Corpse etc.). Sepultura went from Beneath the Remains in '89 to Chaos A.D. to Roots (still one of the more palatable nu metal albums)

Chaos AD was such a great album. They killed themselves with Root. Soulfly was even worse. But yes, first half of the 90s was the pinnacle of Sepultura.

. Maiden released The X Factor, which has long been in my personal top 3 and was kind of a blueprint for nearly the entirety of the reunion era.

Hell, yeah!

You had a lot of great doom (the Peaceville three, especially My Dying Bride),

Hell, yeah!

Rhapsody originate here

Oh my gosh... I completely forgot Rhapsody. Absolutely horrible

 

[srfc]

Very good examples of the great side of the 90s!
Great to see Time here, a rather underrated album, and a true gem!


Very good examples of the terrible side of the 90s!

Especially Korn. One of the worst bands ever.

Korn are undisputedly the worst band of all time, of any genre of music, but the Razor's Edge is great, best album post Back in Black

 

[Spaldy]

Korn are undisputedly the worst band of all time, of any genre of music, but the Razor's Edge is great, best album post Back in Black

I just saw Korn headline Download and they smashed it. And their first 5 albums are great. There are objectively far worse bands than Korn out there.

 

[Spaldy]

The thread title is very clickbait but I'll bite. No, the 90s wasn't a bad decade for rock and metal. In fact, it was probably superior to the 80s overall. I think if you remove the nostalgia then most people forget that there was a lot of shite in the 80s like the entire glam metal genre for example. Sunset Strip idiots with stupid hair making stupid music. Thank fuck Nirvana wiped them out.

The mid 90s was especially interesting due to the commercial decline of the genre. This paved the way for more authentic, underground acts to get noticed and led to more experimentation that ultimately broadened metal as a whole.

Of course, it did spawn nu-metal (which is a whole other can of worms) but that didn't truly explode until the 00s.

And you ignore the summer of 1991 which was the pinnacle of rock and metal commercially at least.

Revisiting the seven weeks in 1991 that changed music history forever

The 80s weren’t dead and the 90s hadn’t really begun. This is the story of how seven weeks of summer in 1991 belonged to rock (and not just grunge)

www.loudersound.com

 

[dickinson1978]

I think the 90's metal scene was as interesting as the 80's one. Better is another question, but it is full of cool, unique, good, heavier, interesting and different (maybe more than the 80's) releases. Some masterpiece albums too.

90s guns n roses metallica iron maiden 92 93,Power metal. Grunge... this guy doesnt know what happened. For me its worst the earlty 00s with all the new metal

 

[Eddie's Uncle]

Korn are undisputedly the worst band of all time, of any genre of music,

This should be repeated for emphasis. To this day I wonder how anyone older than 5 can take that band seriously! They try so obviously to be psychotic, and it is so OBVIOUSLY constructed and calculated...

but the Razor's Edge is great, best album post Back in Black

I won't dispute that it is their best BJ album after BIB, but "Thunderstruck" is such a terrible song, and it is SO overplayed....

 

[Mosh]

I just saw Korn headline Download and they smashed it. And their first 5 albums are great. There are objectively far worse bands than Korn out there.

I mean, there are so many lower level Korn copycats from this period that are way worse, I don't like Korn either but I think people need to go back and really consider how bad things got in the early 00s.

The thread title is very clickbait but I'll bite. No, the 90s wasn't a bad decade for rock and metal. In fact, it was probably superior to the 80s overall. I think if you remove the nostalgia then most people forget that there was a lot of shite in the 80s like the entire glam metal genre for example. Sunset Strip idiots with stupid hair making stupid music. Thank fuck Nirvana wiped them out.

The thread feels really clickbait which is why I have avoided jumping in, but I agree with pretty much everything you said.

To me it boils down to this. 80s were a better decade for Metal in the sense that there was a lot of mainstream support for Metal bands, but there were also a ton of awful groups getting record contracts (history repeated in the 00s as well). The indie/DIY environment that Metal was existing in during the 90s made it a more fruitful time overall and led to a general higher quality of material. It wasn't a great time to be Iron Maiden, but there were a lot of lower level bands that really blossomed during this period.

 

[dickinson1978]

90s a boring decade... the best or good decade or at least til 1994

Metallica guns n roses wasp megadeth slayer motorhead ozzy osbourne dio blind guardian helloween gamma ray stratovarius rhapsody hammerfall cradle of filth and many others. If we tlk avout metal. If we talk about grunge another glory time

Uh, i forgot iced earth. You can not see thrm anymore

Forgot sepultura too...

good vands all. On theur prime

 

[Eddie's Uncle]

What does that mean? What about CoC lacks substance?


Dream Theater managed to fit wankery into some of the most well-composed, catchy songs. It’s why they’ve vastly eclipsed Fates or Queensryche in popularity (even though both have technically better singers).

Nowadays Queensryche may be a little lower in popularity than DT, but in total Queensryche outsold DT by far. Empire alone sold more than the first 3 DT albums combined.
Sales don't define quality, but since you argue popularity they are a valid factor, and Queensryche definitely were the most succesful of the three bands.

 

[Diesel 11]

It wasn't a great time to be Iron Maiden, but there were a lot of lower level bands that really blossomed during this period.

That Bruce Dickinson guy was alright. Wonder what he’s been doing since The Alchemy Marriage or whatever that was called.

 

[riff]

In terms of traditional hevy metal it may have been lacking but it was an incredible decade for extreme metal. These were all released in 1991 alone:

 

[Siddharth]

These were all released in 1991 alone:

...And don't forget these:

And the best one:

Spoiler

a lot of shite in the 80s like the entire glam metal genre for example.

HIGHLY disagree!

 

[dickinson1978]

For what it's worth, on the whole I enjoy 90s in metal more than the 80s, up to the level of 70s, kinda. 80s had some Maiden classics and some nice thrash but a lot of it was glam and there was a lot of meagre, superfluous thrash as well.

90s had a lot of interesting stuff - while I'm more of a post-black person (meaning I prefer black when it's utilised along with other genres; think latter-day Borknagar or Arcturus over the early Norwegian scene), I would be the last to deny that some of the Burzum, Dissection, Immortal and Darkthrone albums are awesome (I guess Emperor too).
There were Faith No More with Angel Dust, there were Pantera (however much you want to complain about them being dudebro or, eh, "ladbloke", don't tell me you haven't enjoyed the shit out of Cowboys from Hell), there was some cool death metal (Death, Cannibal Corpse etc.). Sepultura went from Beneath the Remains in '89 to Chaos A.D. to Roots (still one of the more palatable nu metal albums). Maiden released The X Factor, which has long been in my personal top 3 and was kind of a blueprint for nearly the entirety of the reunion era. I'm not such a huge fan of Painkiller as others are (as I said yesterday, the angry smurfisms in the title track and in the All Guns Blazing cold opening are pure Spinal Tap for me), but it was a huge album and it belongs to the 90s.
You had a lot of great doom (the Peaceville three, especially My Dying Bride), the origins of melodeath (too many bands to name), Opeth started around this time (although they'd really hit their stride at the turn of the millennium), the modern-style prog metal (DT and Symph X at the very least), stoner (Kyuss), grungy stuff (Alice in Chains were single handedly better than most of 80s music, tbh). All you blokes have your Iced Earth and power metal also really started to hit its stride (Rhapsody originate here, if nothing else counted).
I could name yet more, but I feel like it's unnecessary, in short - no, even though I prefer yet other decades in many regards (like the 00s for power metal), the 90s were definitely not bad, boring or anything along those lines.

Very good music during 90s. Trash ,powermetal heavy metal and all the black netal. But it could be thr decade of ttash? At least early 90s

 

[Poto]

There were some decent albums though

Gamma Ray - Land of the Free, Power Plant, Somewhere Out in Space

Angra - Holy Land, Angels Cry

Helloween - The Time of the Oath, Master of the Rings

Blind Guardian - Imaginations From the Other Side, Nightfall in Middle-Earth

Black Sabbath - Tyr, Dehumanizer

Maiden - The X Factor

Bruce - Accident of Birth and The Chemical Wedding

Priest - Painkiller

Rammstein - Sehnsucht

Stratovarius - Visions

Metallica - Metallica, Load

Queensrÿche - Empire, Promised Land

Maybe more. Can't remember

 

[LooseCannon]

The 90s is when metal was well out of the spotlight, which I think means that it had more time to experiment and grow. There's a lot of foundational stuff coming through in the 90s for a bunch of genres that began to ascend in the 2000s. There was no real pressure, no metal band was gonna go supernova at the time, so just do what works for you and see what comes out of it.

 

[srfc]

I mean, there are so many lower level Korn copycats from this period that are way worse, I don't like Korn either but I think people need to go back and really consider how bad things got in the early 00s.

There was a certain amount of hyperbole in my post, and also the bias of being 15/16 when the first Korn album came out so it was my heyday that had these cunts inflicted on it.

But they are still unquestionably the worst band in the world, all day I dream about sex and that song where he's just making noises, they are the shittest band of all time, making a mockery of Maiden on several occassion e.g. on Headbanger's Ball special about Best of the Beast and getting Bruce kicked off a TV show, I'd rather listen to Mr Blobby than them.

 

[Spaldy]

and getting Bruce kicked off a TV show,

What?

 

[dickinson1978]

What?

I want to know too lol. When was bruce kicked from a tv show? Korn....meh during 90s the battles rock metal vs grunge were habitual. Axl vs kurt and i think thetre were more. I cant rememher

 

[srfc]

Both Bruce and Korn were on some American TV show, probably MTV but I can't remember, around the time Accident of Birth was being released, and Korn were the biggest band in metal at that time. When they saw Bruce was on the same show, they complained that they didn't want to be seen dead with someone so "heavy metal" so Bruce's appearance was pulled.