RUN FOR YOUR LIVES 2025 Tour Thread *SPOILERS INSIDE*

dickinson1978 said:
its something all say when the have a new album or new member. I remember lars and hetfield say that with trujillo they felt like burton playing. But i think simon is doing fine btw.
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Yep, remember that. Saying Orion (IIRC) hadn't been played with finger picking "since Cliff, man". It's a normal thing to do.

I remember Jon from Iced Earth saying that Tim Owens was "The singer I've been waiting for all my life. I hear Tim's voice in my head when I write the lyrics." Then when Matt came back, he said "I stand by what I said, but Matt and I are brothers, Man".

It's all just bollocks, isn't it :p
 
matic22 said:
It depends how you countvthe part. But yeah, you can say 1/8ths. Both handed hi-hat basically. It's just strange and the band almost imploded during this part on numerous occasions during this tour. As a guitarist, I consider that part as a "feel" part anf there should not be any count. Or if there was, do one handed 1/4 or even 1/2s.
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I'm not sure how much freedom Simon has on decisions like that. I can't imagine Steve or Adrian preferring something different and Simon going "nah, let's do it this way". I believe what we are hearing here is what was agreed upon by the others.
 
Belshazzar said:
Yep, remember that. Saying Orion (IIRC) hadn't been played with finger picking "since Cliff, man". It's a normal thing to do.

I remember Jon from Iced Earth saying that Tim Owens was "The singer I've been waiting for all my life. I hear Tim's voice in my head when I write the lyrics." Then when Matt came back, he said "I stand by what I said, but Matt and I are brothers, Man".

It's all just bollocks, isn't it :p
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Tim Owens is the voice I hear in my head when I stub my little toe on some furniture :D

Jokes aside, that dude has some insane falsetto screams.
 
I'm new so sorry if this has been talked before here but what I find really weird about that Bruce statement is they saying at the same time they don't want a Nicko's clone (which it obviously is to avoid comparisons and criticism) and "he has that Clive feel" at the same time.

I feel like they low key were preparing the ground for fans to understand he's not anywhere near Nicko's technical level and to expect a more "direct" play style like Clive's had. Which he isn't that good at all neither, honestly, but I agree he does a quite better job with Clive's songs, Phantom sounds great, for example.

I also find curious why they haven't announced him as a new band member. That means "IF" they record a new album he will not write the drums parts? Maybe they are waiting for finishing this tour to see how things are going with him? Just royalty economic stuff reasons? Maybe they plan to only tour old albums and don't want to record anymore? Maybe this is the final tour and the band is done after next year leg?

Maybe they will make an statement on him fully joining when 2025/2026 finishes?

The band is putting him a bit in a uncomfortable position too. It's understandable they want to protect him from crazy fanatics that would hate him whatever he does and try to make people understand he's not Nicko but at the same time not making him a member and having that shadow of doubt about if he would feat in a potential new album is a bit weird.

I really think Simon deserves to play stuff he's comfortable with and contribute to the band if he's going to be the final pick. If they are going just to have him as a "job guy" that plays Nicko songs from now on, well, then there's no way in earth people is not going to be critic when he does them differently and changes some stuff. And it's not Simon fault at all.
 
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I think they were a bit cautious with the transition. Maiden fans can be vicious at the best of times and announcing the retirement of a beloved member after 42 years was destined to become a problem, one way or the other. This way they ease Simon into it, give parts of the fandom the chance for the guy to win them over in some capacity and overall make the transition easier. Whether this was the best way to handle the situation is obviously a very different discussion.
 
Belshazzar said:
Yep, remember that. Saying Orion (IIRC) hadn't been played with finger picking "since Cliff, man". It's a normal thing to do.

I remember Jon from Iced Earth saying that Tim Owens was "The singer I've been waiting for all my life. I hear Tim's voice in my head when I write the lyrics." Then when Matt came back, he said "I stand by what I said, but Matt and I are brothers, Man".

It's all just bollocks, isn't it :p
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Yes. But simon isnt a bad drummer. He sounds different and maiden sounded different to when thry changed from 2 guitars to 3. I can remember the first time and notice that they sounded more contundent
 
Having a wee reflection on the Glasgow gig.

For all the moaning there's been about the setlist it actually works really well. There's plenty for the casual fans but getting Phantom/Powerslave/Mariner/Clairvoyant/SSOASS all in one gig is enough fan service for the die hards. There are some tweaks I'd make personally.

-I do agree that the Ides of March>Murders transition is a bit odd. Should have gone straight into the roll from the end of Ides IMO.

-The first 5 songs being from the early days was a bit of a non-starter for my wife. She didn't really know any songs until we hit NOTB.

There seems to be a low droning keyboard part on the intro of Hallowed that's never been there on previous tours? I like it!
 
Trevoire said:
Having a wee reflection on the Glasgow gig.

For all the moaning there's been about the setlist it actually works really well. There's plenty for the casual fans but getting Phantom/Powerslave/Mariner/Clairvoyant/SSOASS all in one gig is enough fan service for the die hards. There are some tweaks I'd make personally.

-I do agree that the Ides of March>Murders transition is a bit odd. Should have gone straight into the roll from the end of Ides IMO.

-The first 5 songs being from the early days was a bit of a non-starter for my wife. She didn't really know any songs until we hit NOTB.

There seems to be a low droning keyboard part on the intro of Hallowed that's never been there on previous tours? I like it!
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That keyboard is probably Brent Diamond's touch. This is the first tour he was rehearsing Hallowed with the band and probably added that. AFAIK Brent and Michael Kenney swapped on keys/bass tech duty during LOTB 2022 Euro tour and then Brent took over after the Lisbon gig. But that time, he probably played Michael's parts note for note to avoid confusion.
 
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Trevoire said:
Having a wee reflection on the Glasgow gig.

For all the moaning there's been about the setlist it actually works really well. There's plenty for the casual fans but getting Phantom/Powerslave/Mariner/Clairvoyant/SSOASS all in one gig is enough fan service for the die hards. There are some tweaks I'd make personally.
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Powerslave was the highlight of the London gig. Awesome!

Trevoire said:
-I do agree that the Ides of March>Murders transition is a bit odd. Should have gone straight into the roll from the end of Ides IMO.
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Agreed. The whole Doctor, Doctor/The Ides of March/Murders in the Rue Morgue intro felt unnecessarily long.

Trevoire said:
-The first 5 songs being from the early days was a bit of a non-starter for my wife. She didn't really know any songs until we hit NOTB.
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You could definitely notice that was the case for quite a good number of people at the London gig.

As much as I like some of the material from the early days, given their insistence on playing Aces High, perhaps they could have started the gig with that one instead. However, that would have meant not getting the lovely piece of animation based on their formative East End days...
 
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The Ides/Murders/Wrathchild intro is the most boring part of the show imo. I'd definitely take Aces as an opener. That way it's not in the encore, too.
My issue is Murders of course, no problem with Wrathchild. Churchill/Aces/Wrathchild would work better, but they obviously chose Ides/Murdes just to show the East End. They could have chosen Prowler instead.
 
Prowler said:
The Ides/Murders/Wrathchild intro is the most boring part of the show imo. I'd definitely take Aces as an opener. That way it's not in the encore, too.
My issue is Murders of course, no problem with Wrathchild. Churchill/Aces/Wrathchild would work better, but they obviously chose Ides/Murdes just to show the East End. They could have chosen Prowler instead.
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They should have done like 2005. Ides of march and murders without the acustic intro
 
Trevoire said:
For all the moaning there's been about the setlist it actually works really well. There's plenty for the casual fans but getting Phantom/Powerslave/Mariner/Clairvoyant/SSOASS all in one gig is enough fan service for the die hards. There are some tweaks I'd make personally.
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Yeah, but it could have been even better with just 1-2 different songs, right (No Prayer, Infinite, Be Quick, Boots, etc). I'm curious about next tour's potential deep cuts. From the must-have classics, I expect Iron Maiden, Fear, Trooper, Number, Hallowed and Evil.
Trevoire said:
-The first 5 songs being from the early days was a bit of a non-starter for my wife. She didn't really know any songs until we hit NOTB.
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I didn't expect the tour to have or start with 5 early days songs, but that's one of the things that makes the tour like unique, so I'm good. Prowler would have been perfect for me. Plus, the screen arts are just great. Btw, 9 songs from the 2005 tour aren't on the current set, which is good.
Trevoire said:
There seems to be a low droning keyboard part on the intro of Hallowed that's never been there on previous tours? I like it!
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Keyboard for Hallowed's intro! Can you share a video in which is audible enough?
 
Kalata said:
I'm curious about next tour's potential deep cuts. From the must-have classics, I expect Iron Maiden, Fear, Trooper, Number, Hallowed and Evil.
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I think Hallowed will not be played on the next tour. We don't know the theme yet. If it's a reunion one, then I think IM, Trooper, Fear and maybe one more song from the 80s will feature. If it's anything else, I think Evil is a given, but it's to early to speculate. I just think that this will be the last tour that they will play Hallowed. It can only get worse and worse. (that didn't stop them from playing Aces, so who knows)
 
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